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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
November 29 2014 01:46 GMT
#14841
Apparently a couple fnatic players got to stay in the venue and talk to admin(s) while all of LDLC were made to leave. Everything just feels so scummy all around.

Fnatic even has the nerve to counter-dispute. And it sucks for LDLC that it gets replayed at 12-3, they won pistol round so fnatic are basically getting a second chance at the pistol round for shamelessly abusing such a huge exploit. Bullshit.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
November 29 2014 01:48 GMT
#14842
I thought they're restarting at 13-3
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-29 01:50:43
November 29 2014 01:50 GMT
#14843
On November 29 2014 10:48 amazingxkcd wrote:
I thought they're restarting at 13-3

Fnatic counter complained after 6 hours and an unfavourable ruling, so decisions are not final

EDIT: as far as i can interpret this bullshit
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
November 29 2014 01:50 GMT
#14844
On November 29 2014 10:48 amazingxkcd wrote:
I thought they're restarting at 13-3


https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/2npun4/admins_decision_123_restart_nbk_fnatic_are/
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
November 29 2014 01:51 GMT
#14845
On November 29 2014 10:46 HolyArrow wrote:
Apparently a couple fnatic players got to stay in the venue and talk to admin(s) while all of LDLC were made to leave. Everything just feels so scummy all around.

Fnatic even has the nerve to counter-dispute. And it sucks for LDLC that it gets replayed at 12-3, they won pistol round so fnatic are basically getting a second chance at the pistol round for shamelessly abusing such a huge exploit. Bullshit.

They used the boost on the pistol round too. It would be fair to replay that round too if they are going to replay the round where te boost worked for them i think. Either they replay all the rounds with the boost or none.

Its a good deicision imo and LDLC is probably going to the semis anyway.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
November 29 2014 01:52 GMT
#14846
Honestly it is hard to not be disgusted by the way Dreamhack are handling this whole ordeal.
The curse is real
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-29 01:52:54
November 29 2014 01:52 GMT
#14847
double post
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
November 29 2014 01:52 GMT
#14848
Is there a link to the DHW2014 rules anywhere? I can't seem to find them. I don't mean the rules posted previously from this pdf.

This whole situation is pretty retarded and I'd like to see a regame, but if there aren't any official rulings except for that document I don't think they have anything on fnatic to be honest. What they did is bullshit but technically not against the rules. This is why tournament organizers need to become really serious because when you get big money involved, people will do whatever it takes to win.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
November 29 2014 01:53 GMT
#14849
On November 29 2014 10:52 Elroi wrote:
double post

If they lose the pistol and have to take 4 rounds as T on overpass against as strong a team as fnatic? doesnt really sound set in stone to me
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
November 29 2014 01:54 GMT
#14850
I see the change of staff at the top of DH is going well for them lol
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-29 01:56:00
November 29 2014 01:55 GMT
#14851
On November 29 2014 10:52 kuresuti wrote:
Is there a link to the DHW2014 rules anywhere? I can't seem to find them. I don't mean the rules posted previously from this pdf.

This whole situation is pretty retarded and I'd like to see a regame, but if there aren't any official rulings except for that document I don't think they have anything on fnatic to be honest. What they did is bullshit but technically not against the rules. This is why tournament organizers need to become really serious because when you get big money involved, people will do whatever it takes to win.


Nope I've looked everywhere and even asked some pros but nothing.

Pixelwalking is apparently allowed and the only thing they could take Fnatic down in this drama is a little spot where you can see through a wall.

On November 29 2014 10:54 KillerSOS wrote:
I see the change of staff at the top of DH is going well for them lol


The ones that are in charge of all of this have had the same positions for a while..
The curse is real
nortorius
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada1210 Posts
November 29 2014 01:55 GMT
#14852
CSGO Lounge already gave out winnings from the LDLC/fnatic game to the people who bet on fnatic. What's going to happen assuming there's a regame? o_O
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
November 29 2014 01:55 GMT
#14853
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2bb1t3_hiko-troubley-et-n0thing-a-propos-du-boost-de-fnatic-dreamhack-winter-2014_videogames

some pros opinion about it
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-29 01:56:38
November 29 2014 01:55 GMT
#14854
On November 29 2014 10:36 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 10:36 Elroi wrote:
That looks like a good decision to me.

They did won the pistol round, it should be 13-3


Well, if you're replaying whole half, it's not that awks.
But holy fuck, Fnatic, i understand that you don't wanna risk your semifinal slot, just win the pistol and start comeback, you're supposedly best team on this planet, stop pussying out and play.
But don't kill the whole brand, it's not like it was built by you.

On November 29 2014 10:55 nortorius wrote:
CSGO Lounge already gave out winnings from the LDLC/fnatic game to the people who bet on fnatic. What's going to happen assuming there's a regame? o_O


Rule #18, if there is a regame, it doesn't mean shit, they already gave out winnings.
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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
November 29 2014 01:56 GMT
#14855
On November 29 2014 10:51 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 10:46 HolyArrow wrote:
Apparently a couple fnatic players got to stay in the venue and talk to admin(s) while all of LDLC were made to leave. Everything just feels so scummy all around.

Fnatic even has the nerve to counter-dispute. And it sucks for LDLC that it gets replayed at 12-3, they won pistol round so fnatic are basically getting a second chance at the pistol round for shamelessly abusing such a huge exploit. Bullshit.

They used the boost on the pistol round too. It would be fair to replay that round too if they are going to replay the round where te boost worked for them i think. Either they replay all the rounds with the boost or none.

Its a good deicision imo and LDLC is probably going to the semis anyway.


Meh, the way I see it, punitive action should never somehow favor the team that's supposed to be punished and it only encourages more behavior like that in the future. Imagine the thought process: We use this illegal boost, if it works and we win, then maybe we completely get away with it, and at worst we get a second chance even at the rounds that we lost while using the exploit.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
November 29 2014 01:57 GMT
#14856
On November 29 2014 10:55 nortorius wrote:
CSGO Lounge already gave out winnings from the LDLC/fnatic game to the people who bet on fnatic. What's going to happen assuming there's a regame? o_O


They have rules for this kind of thing.

If a match has been played and afterwards the tournament admins decide there needs to be a rematch, for whatever reason, we will not be responsible for this and the initial bets will remain. Reason being: the admins may call for a rematch once we have already drafted items.

The curse is real
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
November 29 2014 01:57 GMT
#14857
On November 29 2014 10:57 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 10:55 nortorius wrote:
CSGO Lounge already gave out winnings from the LDLC/fnatic game to the people who bet on fnatic. What's going to happen assuming there's a regame? o_O


They have rules for this kind of thing.

Show nested quote +
If a match has been played and afterwards the tournament admins decide there needs to be a rematch, for whatever reason, we will not be responsible for this and the initial bets will remain. Reason being: the admins may call for a rematch once we have already drafted items.


gg skins
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-29 02:00:54
November 29 2014 01:58 GMT
#14858


So it seems there arent any rules

rofl, dreamhack should never EVER host a tournament again, how the F you dont have rules (or if you do, at least give it to the players)
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-29 02:03:34
November 29 2014 02:02 GMT
#14859
looking at the dreamhack's official rules they really read out like they have not been updated since cs 1.6 days

they contain a lot of stuff that is completely irrelevant for csgo like telling you not to bind crouch to scroll wheel, which is about russian walking in 1.6

pixelwalk also is a term is something that i have barely ever seen used in csgo about anything
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
November 29 2014 02:04 GMT
#14860
On November 29 2014 10:56 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 10:51 Elroi wrote:
On November 29 2014 10:46 HolyArrow wrote:
Apparently a couple fnatic players got to stay in the venue and talk to admin(s) while all of LDLC were made to leave. Everything just feels so scummy all around.

Fnatic even has the nerve to counter-dispute. And it sucks for LDLC that it gets replayed at 12-3, they won pistol round so fnatic are basically getting a second chance at the pistol round for shamelessly abusing such a huge exploit. Bullshit.

They used the boost on the pistol round too. It would be fair to replay that round too if they are going to replay the round where te boost worked for them i think. Either they replay all the rounds with the boost or none.

Its a good deicision imo and LDLC is probably going to the semis anyway.


Meh, the way I see it, punitive action should never somehow favor the team that's supposed to be punished and it only encourages more behavior like that in the future. Imagine the thought process: We use this illegal boost, if it works and we win, then maybe we completely get away with it, and at worst we get a second chance even at the rounds that we lost while using the exploit.

Sure, good point. But it is very debatable if that is an illegal or not. If it wasn't i think fnatic would just be plain dq'd. To replay from before the boost was used is a consequent way of handling it.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
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