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iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
November 27 2014 10:21 GMT
#14061
Don't turn this into HLTV pls.
But i have to say Semmlers theory really made me laugh. I almost thought he's serious about it. :D
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
November 27 2014 10:24 GMT
#14062
On November 27 2014 19:00 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 18:52 Souma wrote:
On November 27 2014 18:13 Bacillus wrote:
I'd say the chances of Olof randomly doing the 1-click into a wall right on target's head on the 8th bullet are pretty astronomically small. If you hearsteps and panic, you spray and probably readjust to the window if anything. You simply don't go 1-click right on target's head in such manner.

As an sound-aim coordination it's almost inhuman. As a play it's very silly and unprofessional way of revealing your positioning and opening yourself to other angles. That's a combination that seems to be happening quite a bit in Flusha's clips too.

I assume you're talking about the third gif. If you actually slow down the gif and pay attention, his crosshair does not even snap onto the guy's head, it goes towards his neck but wide right.

And even if it did snap onto the guy's head, that would still be far from reasonable proof of hacking. Snapping onto a guy's face due to sound is something a lot of high-level players can do every now and then since they have amazing crosshair placement.

Are those jumpy motions with the crosshair normal? If you can find plays where he moves his crosshair like that without snapping it exactly on some player that would a go a long way in debunking the allegations.

Jumpy crosshairs are due to the player trying to compensate their aim for the recoil. It can also be due to hands shaking because of nerves. It's made to look even more jumpy due to the short time span of that gif.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2076 Posts
November 27 2014 10:29 GMT
#14063
On November 27 2014 19:21 iXphobos wrote:
Don't turn this into HLTV pls.
But i have to say Semmlers theory really made me laugh. I almost thought he's serious about it. :D

Yeh. I'd really like to talk about the thing in a more serious way, which certainly doesn't work in HLTV. Doesn't seem to work in TL either though.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 10:44:59
November 27 2014 10:39 GMT
#14064
People are taking you more seriously here than they will anywhere else I'd imagine. Not our fault you have a laughable argument and are either refusing to watch olof's gifs carefully or are plain oblivious. Can't make it more clear than "olof's crosshair doesn't even lock onto the target."

Here, I put in some effort to make it really clear.

[image loading]

The red circle is where the bullet actually hit (because he panic-fired early), and his crosshair, as you can see, is off the mark anyway.
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
November 27 2014 10:49 GMT
#14065
so. DH about to begin. let's hope everything works out and people stay civil.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
November 27 2014 10:49 GMT
#14066
lol @ the twitch chat

'ban flusha' x 10000000000000000000000000000
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7189 Posts
November 27 2014 10:51 GMT
#14067
ugh why is Thorin here?
pro cheese woman / Its never Sunny in Finland. Perkele / FinnishStarcraftTrivia
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
November 27 2014 10:52 GMT
#14068
^ thats so bad. Poor guy
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
November 27 2014 11:05 GMT
#14069
fifflaren
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
November 27 2014 11:17 GMT
#14070
On November 27 2014 19:51 Luolis wrote:
ugh why is Thorin here?


because he knows his shit.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 11:37:37
November 27 2014 11:37 GMT
#14071
On November 27 2014 19:39 Souma wrote:
People are taking you more seriously here than they will anywhere else I'd imagine. Not our fault you have a laughable argument and are either refusing to watch olof's gifs carefully or are plain oblivious. Can't make it more clear than "olof's crosshair doesn't even lock onto the target."

Here, I put in some effort to make it really clear.

[image loading]

The red circle is where the bullet actually hit (because he panic-fired early), and his crosshair, as you can see, is off the mark anyway.

This is probably the last post I write about this. Hopefully.

Instead of looking at the gif so carefully, you should maybe put your effort into learning how the demos work. The player turn rate isn't as fast as the actual player. The point where Olof shoots is definitely far closer to the target, as far as I can tell, it's somewhere on the edges of the box set at the window.

If you've based your assumptions on gifs (or demos) being absolutely 1:1 to the real game, it's surely easier to dismiss all the suspicious stuff.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
November 27 2014 12:11 GMT
#14072
holy fuck that round of olof just now. 1v3. just wow.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 12:22:43
November 27 2014 12:18 GMT
#14073
On November 27 2014 21:11 Doublemint wrote:
holy fuck that round of olof just now. 1v3. just wow.

it was pretty good by olof but after olof killed the ct spawn guy the 1v2 that ensued was quite awkward play from bravado
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 12:22:30
November 27 2014 12:20 GMT
#14074
On November 27 2014 20:37 Bacillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 19:39 Souma wrote:
People are taking you more seriously here than they will anywhere else I'd imagine. Not our fault you have a laughable argument and are either refusing to watch olof's gifs carefully or are plain oblivious. Can't make it more clear than "olof's crosshair doesn't even lock onto the target."

Here, I put in some effort to make it really clear.

[image loading]

The red circle is where the bullet actually hit (because he panic-fired early), and his crosshair, as you can see, is off the mark anyway.

This is probably the last post I write about this. Hopefully.

Instead of looking at the gif so carefully, you should maybe put your effort into learning how the demos work. The player turn rate isn't as fast as the actual player. The point where Olof shoots is definitely far closer to the target, as far as I can tell, it's somewhere on the edges of the box set at the window.

If you've based your assumptions on gifs (or demos) being absolutely 1:1 to the real game, it's surely easier to dismiss all the suspicious stuff.

You're wrong, plain and simple, and you still have not addressed the fact that his crosshair never actually locked onto the target. If you're going to accuse people of hacking due to gifs/demos, don't bitch at people for using those gifs/demos against you.

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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
November 27 2014 12:22 GMT
#14075
On November 27 2014 21:18 iv~nk~j wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 21:11 Doublemint wrote:
holy fuck that round of olof just now. 1v3. just wow.

it was pretty good by olof but after olof killed the ct spawn guy the 1v2 that ensued was pretty awkward play from bravado


yeah well. 1v2 still. just sayin :p
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
November 27 2014 12:25 GMT
#14076
On November 27 2014 21:20 Souma wrote:
If you're going to accuse people of hacking due to gifs/demos, don't bitch at people for using those gifs/demos against you.

That logic was pretty amusing :p

I'm kind of sad fnatic didn't completely fail, both because drama would be juicy, but mainly because 11-1 odds were so sweet :<
TArujo
Profile Joined September 2009
Portugal1687 Posts
November 27 2014 12:35 GMT
#14077
the banter between Anders and Thorin is awesome on the main stream lol
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
November 27 2014 13:00 GMT
#14078
C9 getting manhandled by Hellraisers. Did not expect that at all.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
November 27 2014 13:01 GMT
#14079
On November 27 2014 22:00 Doublemint wrote:
C9 getting manhandled by Hellraisers. Did not expect that at all.

in inferno this is nothing surprising to me

c9 has always looked completely lost in this map
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
November 27 2014 13:02 GMT
#14080
Wtf c9.....
<3 Kim Taeyeon
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