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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
February 13 2014 08:21 GMT
#6541
On February 13 2014 16:29 Lockitupv2 wrote:
CZ Auto 12/12

Its an automatic p250

The small amount of ammo is the reason why I don't think it will see much play
EZ4ENCE
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
February 13 2014 08:47 GMT
#6542
A general question on movement/firing: How do you guys act in 1v1 situations with rifles (ak47, m4)?
Do you strafe-shoot? Or do you duck and pray to kill enemy with the first burst? Or do you stand still without moving?

Right now, i'm looking for ways to improve my approach:
I burst 3 bullets, then strafe a bit, then burst, strafe again, and so on.
I do this without counter-movement which is common in strafe shooting - just because it's difficult.
the game is the game
zuqbu
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany797 Posts
February 13 2014 09:24 GMT
#6543
On February 13 2014 17:47 kusto wrote:
A general question on movement/firing: How do you guys act in 1v1 situations with rifles (ak47, m4)?
Do you strafe-shoot? Or do you duck and pray to kill enemy with the first burst? Or do you stand still without moving?

Right now, i'm looking for ways to improve my approach:
I burst 3 bullets, then strafe a bit, then burst, strafe again, and so on.
I do this without counter-movement which is common in strafe shooting - just because it's difficult.


never spray and pray, especially don't duck. you're making yourself an easy (stationary) target, and you will run out of bullets quickly and be forced to reload which even if you succeed in killing your opponent opens you up to a counterfrag by his teammates.

a common tip is to unbind your duck key for a while and force yourself to learn how to strafe and burst correctly. most of the times however, it isn't even advantageous trying to force a kill. if you can't score a frag with your first or second burst, most often it is advisable to reapproach the situation:
retreat, move into a defensive position where you have an advantageous angle and see if your opponent takes the bait and peeks into your crosshair.
in competitive matches, tell your teammates the position of the opponent – if he peeks he will run into a 1 on 2 situation, if he doesn't, move in together and use your majority advantage.
if you are on your own, use grenades to swing the situation to your advantage, throw a flash before moving in.
or try to cycle around the map and surprise your enemy from behind.
o_O
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
February 13 2014 09:34 GMT
#6544
On February 13 2014 17:21 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 16:29 Lockitupv2 wrote:
CZ Auto 12/12

Its an automatic p250

The small amount of ammo is the reason why I don't think it will see much play


seems pretty viable to use on an eco, then you just pick up the opponent's gun after first kill you get
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
February 13 2014 10:14 GMT
#6545
On February 13 2014 18:34 Looms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 17:21 WindWolf wrote:
On February 13 2014 16:29 Lockitupv2 wrote:
CZ Auto 12/12

Its an automatic p250

The small amount of ammo is the reason why I don't think it will see much play


seems pretty viable to use on an eco, then you just pick up the opponent's gun after first kill you get

Maybe that, but everything considered I would not want to replace my P250 with such a situational weapon
EZ4ENCE
oscar62
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada417 Posts
February 13 2014 10:22 GMT
#6546
if it was a new gun, not a replacement to the p250, than there's a chance it would see a tiny amount of competitive play. but because you have to REPLACE THE P250 aka the most versatile and efficient gun in the game, it's absolutely useless.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
February 13 2014 10:27 GMT
#6547
p250 aka better clutch weapon than m4 and ak combined. When I see a guy with p250 going 1v3 I suddenly feel confident about him winning. What a gun.
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
loginn
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France815 Posts
February 13 2014 11:15 GMT
#6548
I feel even more confident when the guy is playing with a 5-7. Best gun in the game atm.
Stephano, Taking skill to the bank since IPL3. Also Lucifron and FBH
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 15:28:22
February 13 2014 15:12 GMT
#6549
On February 13 2014 17:47 kusto wrote:
A general question on movement/firing: How do you guys act in 1v1 situations with rifles (ak47, m4)?
Do you strafe-shoot? Or do you duck and pray to kill enemy with the first burst? Or do you stand still without moving?

Right now, i'm looking for ways to improve my approach:
I burst 3 bullets, then strafe a bit, then burst, strafe again, and so on.
I do this without counter-movement which is common in strafe shooting - just because it's difficult.


Really depends on the situation. But, more importantly, with a rifle you absolutely need to utilize the counter-movement to completely stop or else who knows where your bullets will go. If you're finding it difficult then just practice that for now in aim maps. It'll help a lot, especially for long-distance duels. Also, it's best to burst two bullets at a time with the AK, because the third bullet will most definitely miss at long range if you're aiming anywhere close to the head. If you are good at controlling the recoil though like a lot of pros are, then bursting with three shots is fine. If you're ScreaM (pre-slump), then just tap-shoot and get headshots all day errday.

On February 13 2014 20:15 loginn wrote:
I feel even more confident when the guy is playing with a 5-7. Best gun in the game atm.


Five-Seven is so goot. My favorite gun. :D
Writer
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
February 13 2014 17:41 GMT
#6550
I'm usually buying a 5-7 on CT pistol rounds. I'm I a bad person?
EZ4ENCE
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 18:05:43
February 13 2014 18:05 GMT
#6551
Yes, get a kit and nade. Most people don't hey kits pistol round when three people at least should have kits to start

Edit: buy kits
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
February 13 2014 19:49 GMT
#6552
I miss when kits used to be only $200 in 1.6...
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 20:32:32
February 13 2014 20:29 GMT
#6553
The 200 was nice cause then you could get: nade, flash, kit plus extra bullets if you think you needed some. This no ammo buying sucks cause 12/24 on the ct pistol is bullshit when all other pistols ( glock gets over 100 if I remember correctly). Being stuck with nade and kit only does limit your starting strategy but that just means other teammates can go 2xflash, nade. One p250 nade. Then rest kit/nade.. Kit/flash.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19269 Posts
February 13 2014 21:01 GMT
#6554
Use the p2000 if you don't like 12/24
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
February 13 2014 21:15 GMT
#6555
usp is so accurate that you dont need more anyway :F
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
February 13 2014 22:08 GMT
#6556
Guys the new pistol is super legit, extremely powerful and accurate. Still not sure if i want it over p250 thou :/
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
February 14 2014 00:11 GMT
#6557
it's basically a shotgun but a pistol
it's probably good on 1-2 players per team who will just hold close spots on eco rounds like nuke hut or dust 2 b tunnels
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 06:00:15
February 14 2014 05:15 GMT
#6558
I like it so far. Tried it out in deathmatch and it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be. It's really fun to use, too

I could see it being pretty damn useful in maps like office.
t(ツ)t
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
February 14 2014 05:48 GMT
#6559
Release Notes for 2/13/2014

[MISC]
- Aug and SG 553 scope modes now correctly respect players' zoomed mouse sensitivity settings.
- Fixed game client unexpectedly loading installed plugins. -LoadPluginsForClient is now required if client needs to load plugins, however with plugins client will start in insecure mode.
- Added buymenu localization tokens for the CZ75-Auto.
- Player teammate colors now stay consistent throughout a match in both Competitive MM and most third party services.
- Adjusted the teammate colors a bit based on feedback.
- Fixed miniscoreboard causing hitches by refreshing the avatars too often.
- Fixed the chat on Macs showing hex colors instead of names.
- Fixed Scar-20 icon not being visible in the in-game weapon inventory.
- Fixed NameTag text field not taking input.

[Shipped yesterday]
- Fixed Classic Static (crosshairstyle 4) not being static.
- Fixed player color arrows being bot colored in casual.
- Fixed letter label showing up over player dots in radar when spectating / watching a demo.
Writer
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 10:41:30
February 14 2014 10:39 GMT
#6560
What's everyone's opinion about Overpass?
I've only played one competitive match on it so far, but I think it's a good map if you're playing in stacks.

(and although this isn't weird or anything and I know that my enemy was there, I still managed to get a HE kill through smoke just recently. Felt pretty good)
EZ4ENCE
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