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Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-01 21:37:49
December 01 2015 21:36 GMT
#20041
So, is Thorin going down with the ship? Calling Swedes deranged gender politics zealots now.. well, I'm done with him. Just wanted to write that off, dunno if this is the appropriate thread
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8676 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-01 21:38:14
December 01 2015 21:37 GMT
#20042
On December 02 2015 06:36 Muffloe wrote:
So, is Thorin going down with the ship? Calling Swedes deranged gender politics zealots.. well, I'm done with him. Just wanted to write that off, dunno if this is the appropriate thread


Source? Context?
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-01 21:42:31
December 01 2015 21:42 GMT
#20043
On December 02 2015 06:37 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 06:36 Muffloe wrote:
So, is Thorin going down with the ship? Calling Swedes deranged gender politics zealots.. well, I'm done with him. Just wanted to write that off, dunno if this is the appropriate thread


Source? Context?

Actually he didn't generalize like that, but for some reason I read it like that, maybe the fault is with me. + Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/Thooorin/status/671791213872340992

trying to find another tweet which was more generalizing but i cant seem to find

-And since Richard Lewis is not going to get hired by DH anymore, Thorin is going down with the package deal I would guess
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-01 21:44:53
December 01 2015 21:42 GMT
#20044
On December 02 2015 06:37 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 06:36 Muffloe wrote:
So, is Thorin going down with the ship? Calling Swedes deranged gender politics zealots.. well, I'm done with him. Just wanted to write that off, dunno if this is the appropriate thread


Source? Context?

Thorin criticized a swedish-written article which criticized CSGO's lack of female broadcasting talent hired for majors and large tournaments.



Muffloe somehow managed to read that as "calling (all) swedes deranged gender politics zealots" which frankly takes a fair amount of intellectual gymnastics. Presumably Thorin is not under the impression that all of Sweden got together to write the article.

Edit: Looks like Muffloe reread the tweet correctly
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-01 21:47:13
December 01 2015 21:43 GMT
#20045
yeah, sorry I just replied saying it actually wasn't generalizing :/ Anyway I don't really want to discuss this, I'm getting a bad feeling already

Atleast we'll be seeing them at gfinity, and MLG I guess(?)
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 01 2015 21:50 GMT
#20046
Random Thorin comment about random gender issues article(presumably)

move on.
WriterXiao8~~
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-01 21:51:33
December 01 2015 21:51 GMT
#20047
I mean

from before that article and not referencing it at all
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
December 01 2015 21:51 GMT
#20048
On December 02 2015 06:43 Muffloe wrote:
yeah, sorry I just replied saying it actually wasn't generalizing :/ Anyway I don't really want to discuss this, I'm getting a bad feeling already

Atleast we'll be seeing them at gfinity, and MLG I guess(?)

Wonder if Thorin will be "loyal".

As for the other tweet you may have been referring to, Thorin did previously speak of how Sweden was fully into the third wave feminist rhetoric where men believe that they're been conditioned to be sexist and they don't exercise critical thinking about it, they just believe it. If you feel like he's been harsh toward Sweden or that he "generalizes", I wouldn't take it personally, he only deals in nuance when it comes to games, and gets out of his way to offend.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-01 22:02:48
December 01 2015 22:00 GMT
#20049
On December 02 2015 06:51 Sn0_Man wrote:
I mean
+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/Thooorin/status/670948545286029312

from before that article and not referencing it at all

Yeah, it's out context and everything, but still. I mean, he isn't "doing a Poland" yet, but it seems like he's looking for it.
Or I'm just overreacting on something not really out of the ordinary

I hear you Djzapz.. I'll let that be the showstopper for me ^^
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
December 01 2015 23:16 GMT
#20050
Thorin is a great CS analyst but an absolutely horrible journalist.
Too bad he mostly considers himself to be the latter.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
December 01 2015 23:36 GMT
#20051
On December 02 2015 08:16 iXphobos wrote:
Thorin is a great CS analyst but an absolutely horrible journalist.
Too bad he mostly considers himself to be the latter.

There's essentially not a single good video game journalist, as far as I can tell. Why would you say Thorin is a horrible journalist, though, out of curiosity?
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
zzdd
Profile Joined December 2010
United States484 Posts
December 02 2015 00:17 GMT
#20052
I think Thorin and Richard are great when they are by themselves on youtube but put them in front of a crowd and they become the biggest douche bags ever. They should just stick to youtube and writing articles.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 02:53:27
December 02 2015 02:49 GMT
#20053
rumors of FPL in NA are surfacing. Anyone want to grind Faceit with me in premium to get to masters?
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 09:08:24
December 02 2015 08:46 GMT
#20054
Thorin's content when it comes to Youtube is excellent, his addition to the panel consists out of banters and jokes mostly. His analysis on the desk is not significantly better then any of the other members like HenryG or YNK(who despite his accent does offer quite a bit in my opinion). Guy is an absolute asshole but the content he puts out is good.

Richard Lewis is an excellent host, one of the better ones that I know for CSGO, people like Redeye and Sirscoots are just as good if not better then him but they aren't that easy to get. With some more experience I can see people like Sadokist developing into more of a host.I think Richard Lewis also has great (Youtube) content and his contributions to exposing IBP and other scandals are certainly quite nice. Guy is an absolute asshole as well but the content is good as well.

However if each of these two are just a pain to work or when you have to assosciate yourself with these people with then its quite easy to understand why an organization would not want them anymore. For the record, I quite like having the combo on the desk but they more then often overpower the others and there is a thing as recycled jokes(NA sucks, Fox fans lmao) or too much banter.

Ask yourself whether having Richard on the desk is worth him being involved in drama at events he attends and the answer is probably no. Its not even about that drama happens, its about how its handled.

On December 02 2015 09:17 zzdd wrote:
I think Thorin and Richard are great when they are by themselves on youtube but put them in front of a crowd and they become the biggest douche bags ever. They should just stick to youtube and writing articles.

This should be fine ya.

In other news Pimp joining SK

sigh Pimp that is where people go to become irrelevant ;;.
WriterXiao8~~
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 10:00:11
December 02 2015 09:59 GMT
#20055
A friendly neck tap got blown out of proportion.

That being said, I really like RL, but he is absolutely terrible at handling criticism and at managing his twitter. He should just stop answering people on twitter altogether as it time and time again fucks him up. He should take example on Thorin on that matter as Thorin really doesnt care all that much about people hating him.

edit: Well fuck I forgot this was my 6000th post.
Kamari
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden87 Posts
December 02 2015 10:33 GMT
#20056
On December 02 2015 18:59 Roggay wrote:
A friendly neck tap got blown out of proportion.

That being said, I really like RL, but he is absolutely terrible at handling criticism and at managing his twitter. He should just stop answering people on twitter altogether as it time and time again fucks him up. He should take example on Thorin on that matter as Thorin really doesnt care all that much about people hating him.

edit: Well fuck I forgot this was my 6000th post.

Gratz on using your 6000th post on that!
As for the necktap/strangle/choke/bdsmthing it seems it just went out of proportion from the very beginning. Getting upset about a tweet that doesn't have your name in it and isn't even aimed at you? Grow up.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 02 2015 11:31 GMT
#20057
On December 02 2015 05:46 Kipsate wrote:
The NA article made me realize something, why is it that despite CIS having such a monstrous amount of people playing that there is no superteam in CIS either(I don't count VP). Natus Vincere is the closest we get but they are always consistently tier 1.5(Lets say they are about G2 level). A region with that size should be able to produce a superteam much like the Swedish or the Danish but we don't see it.

Guardian has to carry that shit on his shoulders(does a pretty damn good job at it)but thats not enough, I thought Flamie would bring what was needed but they still fail to beat T1 teams, they can upset in Bo1s but very rarely will they beat others in Bo3.



Ideal CIS Lineup:
- GuardiaN
- flamie
- S1mple
- seized
- Edward
- starix (coach and 6th man IGL)

Thing is, s1mple already wrecks that lineup by how he behave... Also, I'd want to think about a more consistent player to switch with Edward, but sadly can't think of any... :<


On December 02 2015 08:36 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2015 08:16 iXphobos wrote:
Thorin is a great CS analyst but an absolutely horrible journalist.
Too bad he mostly considers himself to be the latter.

There's essentially not a single good video game journalist, as far as I can tell. Why would you say Thorin is a horrible journalist, though, out of curiosity?


That there isn't a single good video game journalist doesn't mean you shouldn't expect there should be and give a free pass to bad ones :p
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Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
December 02 2015 11:35 GMT
#20058
s1mple and guardian would compete too much for main awping. Don't think they'd do that good except maybe on d2 or train to stack awps lol.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-02 11:40:33
December 02 2015 11:40 GMT
#20059
On December 02 2015 18:59 Roggay wrote:
He should take example on Thorin on that matter as Thorin really doesnt care all that much about people hating him.

@Djzapz:
That's why i think he's a bad journalist.
Yes, he doesn't care about the the hate, he embraces it. That's why he keeps hating and shitting on stuff he doesn't like in his notorious way.
There's nothing wrong with stating your professional opinion, but do it in a professional way.
I think Thorin is a perfect example why e-sports journalism isn't taken seriously.

"It's just some nerds talking gaming stuff and making internet jokes while wearing suits with headphones" - E-Sports journalism 2015
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19224 Posts
December 02 2015 12:19 GMT
#20060
On December 02 2015 11:49 amazingxkcd wrote:
rumors of FPL in NA are surfacing. Anyone want to grind Faceit with me in premium to get to masters?

sure why not
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