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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-11 16:54:29
December 11 2013 16:45 GMT
#12261
Barrage is incredibly mana-cheap. Especially compared to other wand attacks.

I wonder how good barrage would be with chain. It also scales IPD incredibly fast (76% at level 20 I believe).

Its so hard to test a build like this though because you need a multi-exalt wand for it to be viable still
On December 12 2013 00:51 oneofthem wrote:
i bought one for 3c, it more or less draws with a 20/20 faster attack gem at lvl13. will level it further to see how it goes. i might have to get more leech on gear and recolor my sword to run them both, instead of life leech

R U balsam? People with diff IGNs and TL ID's are hard to keep straight lol.

PS: Does anybody know how barrage rolls crits? Is it multistrike-esque where if 1 crits they all do or does each projectile roll it's own crit?

I'm guessing the former but i don't know.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
December 11 2013 17:15 GMT
#12262
yea i am lol.

looking to buy a 4+ % life leech amulet and ditching magic finding. i aint no culler no more
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 11 2013 17:31 GMT
#12263
Someone on the official forum said each barrage projectile rolls its own crit, dunno if he's right I haven't tested it.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-11 17:33:45
December 11 2013 17:33 GMT
#12264
Hmmm, I'm not liking how far in favour of phys dmg the scale is tipping (Ele vs Phys). I get that once upon a time ele dmg was king and phys sucked, but the fact that a GODLY triple-top tier ele rolls on the fastest base 2h with attack speed (admittedly bad IAS but still) sword only got to like 450 dps is insulting. Plus with phys you can just tack on added fire for a free 40% MORE dmg. And hatred the same way. Plus now ranged/melee phys gems.

Then they nerfed the WED gem a huge amount which was the best way to scale ele dmg. Also the vast majority of damage scaling nodes on the tree are phys nodes.

Obviously i'm mega biased but it feels like the level of damage an ele build can get is literally an order of magnitude lower than the level of damage a phys build can achieve.

Plus you can leech phys dmg from jewellery and the tree to save a link.

On December 12 2013 02:31 HolydaKing wrote:
Someone on the official forum said each barrage projectile rolls its own crit, dunno if he's right I haven't tested it.

Wow that would be awesome. Thanks!
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Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
December 11 2013 17:37 GMT
#12265
You forgot to mention resists vs armor on mobs and how it's easier to do damage as phys without having to lower any of the mobs' defense stats, etc.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-11 17:43:17
December 11 2013 17:42 GMT
#12266
That too.

Ele weakness is a hell of a curse but it doesn't do much when ur hitting lightning resist mobs on an ele equilibrium map with +75% fire res map mod and an ele resist rare or totem nearby...

I'll admit that reflect is a big deal though, considering how much easier it is to mitigate ele reflect (I have 85% ele resists) vs phys reflect (like 30% damage mitigation lol).
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Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
December 11 2013 17:44 GMT
#12267
99% inc Armor Granite says hello, endurance charges say hello, immortal call says hello, shenanigans says hello. =)

I've never had a problem with phys reflect, probably because I usually leech it back before it hurts, or I pop a granite etc.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-11 17:46:27
December 11 2013 17:45 GMT
#12268
Oh yeah cwdt immortal call utterly broke phys reflect lol forgot that part. What a dumb gem. Literally phys reflect no longer exists.

Granite of iron + jade of reflexes with IR still didn't seriously fix back when I was phys dmg lol. 28K Armor i think and i still hit myself pretty hard.
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3456 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-11 17:52:36
December 11 2013 17:49 GMT
#12269
On December 12 2013 02:15 oneofthem wrote:
yea i am lol.

looking to buy a 4+ % life leech amulet and ditching magic finding. i aint no culler no more


But you were the chosen one ( as in the only one in our dom guild has somewhat ok mf lol )
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 11 2013 17:51 GMT
#12270
If I can build up my fuxing 75+ base again I'll go bother that mentalmoomoo guy his culling seems legit and his dps buddy seemed legit and they seemed to appreciate my auras.

Dominus runs are cool and probably more profitable than most other things but they are boring as fuck and AWFUL xp lol. I have gems to level.

PS I hope BoR's drop to ~5ex sometime soon so that I can reroll a blender on the cheap. Considering the culler guy culled 4 yesterday I'm guessing that could happen.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 11 2013 18:05 GMT
#12271
Just now I read someone say either all barrage hits crit or none. Dunno what's correct.

4 BoR in one day? Lol, what a sick lucker...
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 11 2013 18:06 GMT
#12272
Don't think any were for him but this is like a 6-man group doing dom runs and this guy is the 400+ rarity culler. Actually he didn't say if they were dom runs or what but you get the idea.
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Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
December 11 2013 18:09 GMT
#12273
If I make a phys wander on Dom I'd try to be a MF culler.. I like Sno's buffs too much after tasting them once.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 11 2013 18:17 GMT
#12274
Wanders seem pretty gear specific without adding MF to that, but iunno.

Also being able to use reaper's scythe as a culling/mobility weapon swap is nice for 2h MF builds.
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Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
December 11 2013 18:22 GMT
#12275
How much would a level 45 blue-blue blue 27% spell damage 5% cast speed 39% inc mana regen 10% projectile speed wand be on nem? I have no idea about prices for that sort of thing. My best guess would be 5-7c but I really don't know and I'd really like to not overpay.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-11 18:28:33
December 11 2013 18:25 GMT
#12276
Thats less than a chaos I'm pretty sure.


Vortex Chant Quartz Wand
Level: 32 Intelligence: 65

13% increased Spell Damage
38% increased Spell Damage
+20 to Intelligence
16% increased Cast Speed
+19 to maximum Mana

B/o 1c, on nemesis, much better than the wand you quoted I'm fairly sure. 3linked, guy is online.

Just use Poe.xyz.is and turn on "buyout only". (Or don't and just offer people 1c).
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 11 2013 18:29 GMT
#12277
Nemesis is always pretty expensive but I agree it's probably just a chaos.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 11 2013 18:37 GMT
#12278
If that guy keeps dropping BoR at that rate, maybe the prices will drop to where I can afford one >_>
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 11 2013 18:38 GMT
#12279
On December 12 2013 03:37 ticklishmusic wrote:
If that guy keeps dropping BoR at that rate, maybe the prices will drop to where I can afford one >_>

SAYS MR MIRROR.

But yeah thats wat i'm hoping LOL.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 11 2013 18:40 GMT
#12280
Except mirror is basically unsellable, and the rest of my account isn't worth the mirror fee on one of those godly items...
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