EPTFP or EK build?
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
FP or EK build? | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Toss it into standard trade chat every so often too "$WTS [Link the mirror] Taking offers thread /603894" or whatever. Alternately, the mirrors for sale right now are 140ex B/o with around 120ex c/o. You could just post it for 130 b/o and go from there. PM the "wtb mirrors" people and offer for 130, but don't negotiate very much. You are the guy with the mirror, don't accept low. On December 12 2013 03:40 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: I'm curious how gem levels compares to spell damage in terms of damage output. He should be able to use a +2 gem levels (or +3; maybe expensive, especially with spell damage) at that level. I always thought gem levels was superior, but I've never done any math on it. FP or EK build? + gem level wands kinda suck tho cuz ur spell is 3link, and staves have their own issues (plus expensive). | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
although maybe people were onto the dupe thing and were buyiing mirrors to dupe stuff like 6l legacy shavs | ||
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Gary Oak
Canada2381 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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ZoRoXo
Norway268 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
What build are you? (and what league is this  ) | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On December 12 2013 04:04 oneofthem wrote: mirrors will be even more valuable as they release new top tier mods and stuff later on. although maybe people were onto the dupe thing and were buyiing mirrors to dupe stuff like 6l legacy shavs You can't mirror uniques so that isn't an issue. On December 12 2013 03:49 Sn0_Man wrote: + gem level wands kinda suck tho cuz ur spell is 3link, and staves have their own issues (plus expensive). For leveling that isn't an issue though because you aren't gonna have a 5 or 6L. Losing one link for a few gem levels seems very worthwhile. I think somewhere in the thirties it might be better to have a 4L, but once you hit forty or forty-four and can get +2 or +3 gem levels it is good again, although finding a wand that actually ends up requiring that level might be challenging. Plus we're talking wands so good luck getting the proper affixes. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
They took a shitty skill from 1.0. Then they divided the damage by 3. GOOD SKILL RIGHT? Then in 1.0.3 they were like "oops lets buff this" so they added 15% of the 1/3 dmg. So now its at still less that 40% of its old base damage. GOOD SKILL RIGHT? Theres like 6 new nodes that "help", and they all suck too (plus they are nowhere near the "area damage" nodes that sort of scale poison arrow. Ignore viper strike its ass). Its still borderline impossible to properly improve on the old level of damage, which were already incredibly terrible. I don't really know what else to say. To clarify, Poison arrow at level 20 is 266 dps. Mild extrapolation puts level 22 arrow (+2 bow gems) at ~330 dps. Even if you could achieve a 10x multiplier your damage is SHITAWFUL. with like 70% increased chaos 100% increased projectile 70% increased dot and conc effect you are still only at 5.7x Adding remote mine would help but you still cant reach 10x and ur damage at 10x is still trash. Tossing in a level 3 empower is like your only hope. Hopefully that gets you to 400 base DPS and slightly better multipliers, but you can't possibly get the 15x multiplier that is necessary for base 400 to do realistic damage. Plus you have to use remote mine aka lowest possible quality of life (though you could probably get another 60% increased mine dmg this way, so 10x multi give or take). So if you bend over backwards and try INSANELY hard, you get a very very weak build but not completely unviable anymore. Not worth your time. | ||
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ZoRoXo
Norway268 Posts
On December 12 2013 04:18 Sn0_Man wrote: Erm I don't think quality bonus is attack speed but its still amazing lol. What build are you? (and what league is this )Oh, yeah I was thinking of another quality gem. I'm spectral throw on nemesis. Currently lvl88 so started to re-level gems as 20 quality. | ||
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Varanice
United States1517 Posts
I finished the initial build for my phys/light crit DW'er though. He seems brutal, and does a ton of damage, just working on getting better rings, amulet, and belt because my hp is low and my res arent capped, does more DPS than my facebreakers. (He's doing 5.5k DS dps without Multistrike, without quality on most gems, or gg jewelery.) | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
I never really wanted to do a dual wield build simply because you have to buy 2 absurdly expensive weapons lol. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Might try something with puncture on my next character, the 200% DOT is just too sweet. I'd like to incorporate some sort of elemental, cold for slow so I can run around and be a huge troll, or maybe shock for the extra damage. Don't have much money left on nemesis now though, I sunk most of it into a new bow. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
The issue is that you don't actually achieve anything by that. I still have yet to get over 4500 DPS in an absolute best-case scenario with a level 3 empower (hella xpensive). Absolute dumpster-tier Spectral throwers do double that DPS. Plus you don't have to bother with mines etc. And you can get actual good nodes. | ||
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
might be mildly out of date but its mostly reasonable. For high maps (74+) chisel them all and don't accept less than 90% quantity. Maybe 80 with a good packsize roll. Hard map bosses are: Residence (74), Crematorium (76), Shrine (77), Palace (78). The rest are all pretty doable with any reasonable amount of care, or at least they don't have the kind of damage that will insta-kill you without you understanding why. Literally just don't run labyrinth maps regardless of anything (3:1 them), and if you run dark forests try really hard for an inhabitation prefix. Lower maps are kinda a mixed bag. I don't necessarily have them all memorized | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On December 12 2013 04:23 Sn0_Man wrote: Sure but I can assure you both remain shit. They took a shitty skill from 1.0. Then they divided the damage by 3. GOOD SKILL RIGHT? Woah, woah, let's not insult two of the best racing skills that also used to be the best boss cheesers in the game with absolutely no link investment. Now they've retired to the old age home that's populated by crappy skills, though, and aren't even useful for those things. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On December 12 2013 04:22 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: You can't mirror uniques so that isn't an issue. For leveling that isn't an issue though because you aren't gonna have a 5 or 6L. Losing one link for a few gem levels seems very worthwhile. I think somewhere in the thirties it might be better to have a 4L, but once you hit forty or forty-four and can get +2 or +3 gem levels it is good again, although finding a wand that actually ends up requiring that level might be challenging. Plus we're talking wands so good luck getting the proper affixes. there was a bug that allowed people to copy the skin transfer item together with a rare onto which the skin was applied | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Holy shit that would be profitable. | ||
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