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Invoker
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium686 Posts
November 26 2013 18:35 GMT
#11901
On November 26 2013 15:23 Krohm wrote:
I was hoping someone here could give me a price check on this bow I found earlier today. It seems like it's good but I honestly have no idea for sure. It's ilvl59 as well.

[image loading]


Cold roll > bad
mana roll > no need too bad
accuracy > worst

considering it's only ilvl59
%120 physical is kinda good.
attack speed > lowest possible roll
and the flat damage roll is kinda good

but it's only 2 socket and there is no link
it's a decent bow might be useful for a while but it really doesn't worth much.
4-5 chaos i guess.
There is no fate, but what we make.
Nebula
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
England780 Posts
November 26 2013 18:37 GMT
#11902
4-5 chaos pretty generous imo, would give one tops :o
<3
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-26 18:46:33
November 26 2013 18:39 GMT
#11903
On November 27 2013 03:19 Pwere wrote:
If I understand it right, the DoT change actually makes Poison Arrow builds viable.
With a +bow gem, you'd have ~6-800 base DoT. You can efficiently get +125% projectile damage from the tree, along with concentrated effect for another 70% more damage, and possibly point blank + that unique Maraketh bow for another 50% and 100% more damage. That's about 11x damage, or x4 at long range/if point blank doesn't work, with no reflect, and the potential for 40% more with Vulnerability.

Is there anything else that could possibly affect it, and is that enough damage?



From what I understand, it doesn't work quite that way.

The DOT isn't a projectile, so it doesn't benefit from projectile nodes or point blank.. Global "increased damage" modifiers and "increased chaos damage" modifiers, like Le Heup of All and quality added chaos, will affect it. Conc effect and AoE damage boosting nodes should affect it too, I think.


Edit: Guess GGG decided counting it as a projectile makes sense. Hmm. I kinda disagree, but c'est la vie. Consistency would be nice...are searing bond totems going to benefit from totem damage now at least?
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
November 26 2013 18:43 GMT
#11904
They said specifically that poison arrow benefits from Projectile damage =)
" for example, increased area damage and increased projectile damage will both apply to the poison clouds from Poison Arrow, as it fills an area and is an effect of a projectile."
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
November 26 2013 18:46 GMT
#11905
anyone have a build projection for the new lighting skill they're adding? I've found myself quite an accumulation of spell dmg gear and am eager to try it out. :D
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
November 26 2013 18:59 GMT
#11906
I'm going to test Storm Call with my trapper, though he is no where near end game so I don't know how effective it will be.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Dogfoodboy16
Profile Joined October 2013
364 Posts
November 26 2013 19:00 GMT
#11907
How do I stop Corrupting Blood from doing so much damage to me? Its like the only thing that scares the hell out of me right now.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-26 19:08:24
November 26 2013 19:06 GMT
#11908
On November 27 2013 03:39 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 03:19 Pwere wrote:
If I understand it right, the DoT change actually makes Poison Arrow builds viable.
With a +bow gem, you'd have ~6-800 base DoT. You can efficiently get +125% projectile damage from the tree, along with concentrated effect for another 70% more damage, and possibly point blank + that unique Maraketh bow for another 50% and 100% more damage. That's about 11x damage, or x4 at long range/if point blank doesn't work, with no reflect, and the potential for 40% more with Vulnerability.

Is there anything else that could possibly affect it, and is that enough damage?



From what I understand, it doesn't work quite that way.

The DOT isn't a projectile, so it doesn't benefit from projectile nodes or point blank.. Global "increased damage" modifiers and "increased chaos damage" modifiers, like Le Heup of All and quality added chaos, will affect it. Conc effect and AoE damage boosting nodes should affect it too, I think.


Edit: Guess GGG decided counting it as a projectile makes sense. Hmm. I kinda disagree, but c'est la vie. Consistency would be nice...are searing bond totems going to benefit from totem damage now at least?


Technically it is consistent when you consider rain of arrows also works this way. Bow attacks would suck if they didn't benefit from projectile damage.

On November 27 2013 04:00 Dogfoodboy16 wrote:
How do I stop Corrupting Blood from doing so much damage to me? Its like the only thing that scares the hell out of me right now.


The best way is to get a staunching flask.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
November 26 2013 20:55 GMT
#11909
Storm Call won't really do anything for how incredibly variable lightning damage is, I don't think. It's 6-109 damage at rank 8, pretty similar to a rank 7 Arc or Shock Nova (ofc subject to change before live release) but that puts it on track for roughly 25-450 damage at rank 20. Just as bad as the other lightning skills.
I really kinda dislike the variability in this game. Maybe I'm still salty over the massive discharge RIP but especially when GGG doesn't deign to give us details about mobs and their skills (so we can't even know the max damage of certain monster skills until it's too late) it seems like things are just a crapshoot a lot of the time.
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Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
November 26 2013 21:13 GMT
#11910
Endless Ledge is more fun than expected. Died to surprise pack of crit dischargers, but it still beats any normal race. Plus you don't have to worry about maphacks!

On another note, Grats ZoRoXo for crushing Scion.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 26 2013 21:20 GMT
#11911
The plan with Stormcall is generally to hit them with 4-5 Calls per zap which is pretty likely to average out to the right amount of damage. How much damage you actually do is obviously still uncertain at this stage.

Also, Lightning damage is actually substantially MORE powerful due to it's variation because on the big hits you can get nice shocks on mobs that you wouldn't otherwise shock properly.
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ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
November 26 2013 21:25 GMT
#11912
On November 27 2013 06:13 Pwere wrote:
Endless Ledge is more fun than expected. Died to surprise pack of crit dischargers, but it still beats any normal race. Plus you don't have to worry about maphacks!

On another note, Grats ZoRoXo for crushing Scion.

Yeah, it's pretty fun when you get good zones. Thought I'd win 100% as long as I kept getting chill zones with non charging melee mobs. Last zone I had ele weakness necros with cold snappers that would freeze me, and 2 simple white lightning warpers would almost oneshot me if I had ele weakness on me, almost died 4 times trying to rush it so decided to chill. Lost #1 as 26,90% lol, but still best endless ledge I've ever gotten. Think I only hit 25 barely once before.
sprættemætute
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
November 26 2013 21:40 GMT
#11913
Is there any pattern/knowledge in these races, or each zone is truly completely random (unique boss aside)?

Also, what's the best way to start for ranger, shadow or duelist? Rusted sword cleave/reave is pathetic, split arrow is terrible... Ice nova isn't bad, does it beat club + ground slam? I think there was also freezing pulse in there. I'm probably missing something, as people leveled up really fast in the first few minutes.
ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
November 26 2013 21:50 GMT
#11914
Seems completely random to me. The bosses are always the same, so should always keep back in your mind that the lvl16 zone is perpertus, and unlike sarns you might face him when your running southwestish so you don't see far on your screen.. Probably the most scary boss that you can face in 1hour race. Since you probably can't rush far enough to the late 1shot bosses.

I cleaved in that race whole last season, and it was not good then, it's worse now so... For non spectral throw classes I'd say ground slam is probably the most solid. Pretty much impossible to go full melee since there's no guarantied rng so you have shit resist all race long.
sprættemætute
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
November 26 2013 22:01 GMT
#11915
PA + RoA is easy mode anyway, but the first three levels were painful. I found an image of the provisions and apparently there's a Maul in there, which should be fine until the first decent bow drop.

Also, do Scions simply get Spectral Throw as a bonus? I thought everyone had the same start (which also means that Shadow is just as easy as Ranger, but you get way more points due to lack of competition).
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
November 26 2013 22:04 GMT
#11916
Why do they have to do EL when I'm at work. =(
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
November 27 2013 01:24 GMT
#11917
Just had guardian angel chris watching over me in the 2hour race. Fairgoves antishock hat from Brutus, honourhome resist/ele dmg helmet from Merveil, limbsplit from a random white spider right before spider boss at 18-19, then doudres damning (something spell caster gloves) from Alira.

Fairgoves helped me break new vaal solo nomod record for me at 62 mins, also saved my life when Vaal felt like trolling with triple laser
sprættemætute
SlixSC
Profile Joined October 2012
666 Posts
November 27 2013 01:29 GMT
#11918
I just died again to a disconnect and I would love to know how this keeps happening to me? It's the second time in a week that I've died to this and it's getting very frustrating.

It's not just a desync, it's an actual disconnect. I log out and the game kills me anyway, with desync you can at least hit /oos and it's no problem, but here it's just the game killing me for absolutely no reason.

My connection was fine I could instantly log back in but my char was still dead...
esk
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5 Posts
November 27 2013 01:36 GMT
#11919
On November 27 2013 10:29 SlixSC wrote:
I just died again to a disconnect and I would love to know how this keeps happening to me? It's the second time in a week that I've died to this and it's getting very frustrating.

It's not just a desync, it's an actual disconnect. I log out and the game kills me anyway, with desync you can at least hit /oos and it's no problem, but here it's just the game killing me for absolutely no reason.

My connection was fine I could instantly log back in but my char was still dead...

I've had these issues also ( even this 2 hour race where I either DC or get a very bad spike. Don't know what is causing it but I used to have them pretty frequently but now quite a bit less, no advice on how to fix them though.
Pibacc
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada545 Posts
November 27 2013 02:10 GMT
#11920
Just got a 6s ilvl 71 assassins garb from a graveyard map, 20% it with scraps every fusing, took 5 fusings to 6L !!!!!!!! i'm so fucking happy haha
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