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Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 04:00:27
February 17 2013 03:54 GMT
#6261
Why do some rares have 8 properties?

Rarity: Rare
Gale Ram
Dread Maul
--------
Two Handed Mace
Physical Damage: 90-123 (augmented)
Elemental Damage: 26-43 (augmented), 1-31 (augmented)
Critical Strike Chance: 5%
Attacks per Second: 1.35 (augmented)
--------
Requirements:
Level: 54
Str: 173 (unmet)
--------
20% increased Stun Duration on enemies
--------
29% increased Physical Damage
Adds 26-43 Fire Damage
Adds 1-31 Lightning Damage
12% increased Attack Speed
9% reduced Enemy Stun Threshold
+28% to Fire Resistance
+23 to Accuracy Rating



EDIT: Nvm, saw the note.

Thanks a lot Blitzkrieg and Shinbi, really really informative <3
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 04:01:07
February 17 2013 03:59 GMT
#6262
Implicit properties are always on that item type. All two handed maces have increased stun duration as an implicit property. They're also static so you can't change them with the blessed orb like some other implicit properties. Implicit properties do not count as a roll. Rings and amulets (among others) have implicit properties that you can reroll via blessed orbs.

Accuracy rating+increased physical damage is one prefix in this case. Journeyman's adds:
Local Physical Damage +% 25 to 34
Local Accuracy Rating 8 to 30
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
AnotherRandom
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada81 Posts
February 17 2013 04:00 GMT
#6263
This is why physical items are bs. All the +dmg modifiers for items are prefixes and all of the suffixes suck except for life leech, life on hit, crit chance, crit multiplier, and attack speed.
Teamliquid is one of the dumbest gaming communities on the internet.
Shinbi
Profile Joined December 2009
338 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 04:08:57
February 17 2013 04:00 GMT
#6264
On February 17 2013 12:54 Archers_bane wrote:
How do some rare items have 8 total properties ? like

Rarity: Rare
Gale Ram
Dread Maul
--------
Two Handed Mace
Physical Damage: 90-123 (augmented)
Elemental Damage: 26-43 (augmented), 1-31 (augmented)
Critical Strike Chance: 5%
Attacks per Second: 1.35 (augmented)
--------
Requirements:
Level: 54
Str: 173 (unmet)
--------
20% increased Stun Duration on enemies
--------
29% increased Physical Damage
Adds 26-43 Fire Damage
Adds 1-31 Lightning Damage
12% increased Attack Speed
9% reduced Enemy Stun Threshold
+28% to Fire Resistance
+23 to Accuracy Rating



I edited in a note in my previous post, but I'll say it here as well:

The % Phys damage and Accuracy are part of a single prefix: in this case Journeyman's. Then you have Incinerating for the fire damage, and Snapping for the lightning damage. Suffixes are of Mastery [Local Attack Speed +%], of the Brawler [Stun Threshold Reduction], and of the Kiln [Fire res].




And yes, as was said above, the 20% Increased Stun Duration, the +15% or whatever Spell Damage, +30 maximum life, +20 All Attributes, etc. in every item, is an implicit affix. This is why whenever you see an item, it's always separated from the rest of the affixes. When you use a Blessed Orb, you are re-rolling the value of this implicit affix between a variable of set ranges.


On another sidenote: once you understand the affix concept, you'll understand crafting [and trading to an extent as well], and will most likely come to truly appreciate it, especially when you craft a ridiculously good item.
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 04:56:43
February 17 2013 04:03 GMT
#6265
Okay so my computer giving me even more problems trying to run poe... I barely played at all today and I cant have the game running for longer then 5-10minutes without a random crash. I've updated drivers, did a system restore, cleaned the PC, tried running the game at lowest possible settings and also ran a BF3 at highest settings to test my graphics card so its not that. Im going to reinstall game now hopefully that will fix it. If not I will try reformating as last resort Sucks I have spent my entire saturday evening troubleshooting.

Watch I find out theres nothing wrong with my pc at all and im here going crazy >.<

Also earlier today my game crashed the computer and I restarted it and my screen loaded up red and fuzzy. I turned it off waited and then ran it again and it was fine.. this is when I did the bf3 test to ensure myself that it wasnt my graphics card, I figure if It cant run poe while shutting down then surely it wouldnt be able to run bf3 at highest settings.. Well I was wrong I played for about an hour or 2 with no problems...

I just posted in support forums so heres hoping some1 has a solution for me =/

Edit: Here's the link to my forum post. It has all info inside including logs, specs and error message I got.
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/157306
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 17 2013 07:05 GMT
#6266
could someone explain what i need to be doing in order to get an endless supply of maps?

is it possible playing solo?
cabarkapa
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1015 Posts
February 17 2013 07:07 GMT
#6267
Dang I died on cruel Act 1 because I didn't notice that the level of monsters jumped up 5 levels between the Mud Flats and the Fetid Pool.
Jaehoon - Master strategist
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
February 17 2013 07:49 GMT
#6268
On February 17 2013 16:05 travis wrote:
could someone explain what i need to be doing in order to get an endless supply of maps?

is it possible playing solo?

I seem to be getting more maps than I use from running maps solo, maybe I am just lucky with drops?
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
musai
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada552 Posts
February 17 2013 07:56 GMT
#6269
you get more maps solo because 100% of them are yours

however, if you run with a group all the time, the group overall gets more maps if you just share them
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 08:21:32
February 17 2013 08:21 GMT
#6270
Is that true? Do groups get an implicit + item quantity bonus?

edit: Well yeah if you share them... dumb me.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
February 17 2013 08:23 GMT
#6271
On February 17 2013 16:49 vol_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 16:05 travis wrote:
could someone explain what i need to be doing in order to get an endless supply of maps?

is it possible playing solo?

I seem to be getting more maps than I use from running maps solo, maybe I am just lucky with drops?


probably just rng i guess

i am staying even on maps i just dont want to have to buy more lol
and i keep dipping down to just 1 map left and then i find like 3
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
February 17 2013 08:26 GMT
#6272
On February 17 2013 17:23 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 16:49 vol_ wrote:
On February 17 2013 16:05 travis wrote:
could someone explain what i need to be doing in order to get an endless supply of maps?

is it possible playing solo?

I seem to be getting more maps than I use from running maps solo, maybe I am just lucky with drops?


probably just rng i guess

i am staying even on maps i just dont want to have to buy more lol
and i keep dipping down to just 1 map left and then i find like 3


Try to keep your item quantity above 30% for every map. Alts are plentiful for a reason.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 09:46:06
February 17 2013 09:45 GMT
#6273
On February 17 2013 16:05 travis wrote:
could someone explain what i need to be doing in order to get an endless supply of maps?

is it possible playing solo?

I don't think it's possible playing solo, without super luck or buying more maps. I would try and find some people you trust to run maps.

What I've been doing recently actually, is just doing pubs, joining parties that say "Running maps no ninjas maps go to maker". I run with the group for a few maps and check if they seem trust worthy. Honoring high value currency drops is usually a good indicator; when I get moments where I completely don't see a Chaos drop and someone brings it over to me, that's usually decent. Then I offer to use some of my own maps to increase my supply. Has been working since the TL group hasn't been stable. Also a good way to get more friends on your buddy list.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Chaosu
Profile Joined October 2005
Poland404 Posts
February 17 2013 10:22 GMT
#6274
On February 17 2013 16:56 musai wrote:
you get more maps solo because 100% of them are yours

however, if you run with a group all the time, the group overall gets more maps if you just share them


no. map drop quantity is defined only via map properties. when you join map instance any player quantity/quality modifiers DOES NOT APPLY TO MAPS (MAPS ONLY!). this change was made to avoid favoring groups because devs want to keep the solo play viable (and maps drop does have pretty high impact on that).

it's all about luck, seen players no dropping single map in 8 runs, seen some getting 6 maps in one.
Please be patient.
eluv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
February 17 2013 10:22 GMT
#6275
Just got my dual claw/ghostreaver witch to 34, so it was time to switch from life on hit claws to % life steal ones. The next base white item with 6% lifesteal isn't till 50 something, so I wanted to make sure I got it right. I already had one with 38% physical damage and some other OK mods, and my first alch got me another with +38%, and I was pretty OK with that.

Then I just sort of decided to hell with it, alch'd another and got myself:

+ Show Spoiler +
Rarity: Rare
Pain Talons
Fright Claw
--------
Claw
Quality: +20% (augmented)
Physical Damage: 12-49 (augmented)
Elemental Damage: 19-31 (augmented), 5-11 (augmented), 3-49 (augmented)
Critical Strike Chance: 6.5%
Attacks per Second: 1.54 (augmented)
--------
Requirements:
Level: 34
Dex: 61
Int: 61
--------
6% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched back as Life
--------
Adds 19-31 Fire Damage
Adds 5-11 Cold Damage
Adds 3-49 Lightning Damage
14% increased Attack Speed
+4 Life gained for each enemy hit by your Attacks


Tri-ele damage and 15% attack speed - just - hngggggg. Unfortunately I'd prefer physical damage for the lifesteal, but you really can't turn rolls like that down.
"Yes I fucked my way to the GSL partnership" - Sundance
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 10:48:45
February 17 2013 10:48 GMT
#6276
mmhh think my first unique i found over a week ago turned out quite nice. just a random queens decree with 1 socket, never bothered to trade it cause demand didnt seem high and whatever.

yesterday a guy was looking for a queens decree and offered a quillrain AND a searing touch for it. both high demand uniques so hey, great deal!

quickly sold the quillrain (80%pspeed) for a bit over 2gcp worth and now i saw the st is a damn good roll:
+ Show Spoiler +
Rarity: Unique
The Searing Touch
Long Staff
--------
Staff
Quality: +5% (augmented)
Physical Damage: 20-34 (augmented)
Critical Strike Chance: 6.5%
Attacks per Second: 1.25
--------
Requirements:
Level: 13
Str: 27
Int: 27
--------
12% additional Block Chance With Staves
--------
+2 to Level of Fire Gems in this item
50% increased Spell Damage
39% increased Fire Damage
70% increased Burning Damage
10% increased Cast Speed
--------
Burn to cinders, scar and maim,
Rule a world, bathed in flame.


only 1%fire damage from perfect unique rolls. already got bids of 3gcp worth in forum.

hooray! :>
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
February 17 2013 10:49 GMT
#6277
I'm looking for a cookie cutter build that isn't gear dependand to farm stuff for other characters and such. What are the most damaging spells that I can build a witch around them?
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 10:58:29
February 17 2013 10:58 GMT
#6278
Is there a guide/tutorial somewhere ingame? I picked it up yesterday to experiment with and I feel very lost.
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
February 17 2013 11:00 GMT
#6279
On February 17 2013 19:58 Firebolt145 wrote:
Is there a guide/tutorial somewhere ingame? I picked it up yesterday to experiment with and I feel very lost.


for what? gameplay shouldnt be complicated. for builds visit the classforums. for currency values poeex.info and gem values http://poespreadsheet.blogspot.de/ is a good help.

just play, after a while youll beging to understand evrything ~ (just started myself 2 weeks ago)
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-17 12:09:12
February 17 2013 11:07 GMT
#6280
On February 17 2013 19:22 Chaosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2013 16:56 musai wrote:
you get more maps solo because 100% of them are yours

however, if you run with a group all the time, the group overall gets more maps if you just share them


no. map drop quantity is defined only via map properties. when you join map instance any player quantity/quality modifiers DOES NOT APPLY TO MAPS (MAPS ONLY!). this change was made to avoid favoring groups because devs want to keep the solo play viable (and maps drop does have pretty high impact on that).

it's all about luck, seen players no dropping single map in 8 runs, seen some getting 6 maps in one.

whaaa seriously? Did not know that.

Do you know when approximately they made that change? I can't find it in the patch notes but I haven't scoured everything yet. Only relevant thing I could find was how exp doesn't scale with +50% per member anymore, instead giving a flat 30% to all with no experience being split up of the 100% base.

The mechanics thread on the official forum also doesn't really talk map quantity in any detail at all.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
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