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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
February 18 2013 01:20 GMT
#6301
for someone new to HC, what are the recommended levels and HP amounts to get past A3 Normal, A2 Cruel, A3 Cruel, and A2 Merciless?
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
BigBadBeaver
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada272 Posts
February 18 2013 01:25 GMT
#6302
Question about the beta:
How will the full-release differ from the beta? Is the storyline complete in beta? And does "there will never be another character wipe" pertain to beta only or does this extend into release?
I want to start playing but I don't want to play an incomplete product. Can't seem to find this information anywhere.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 01:29:23
February 18 2013 01:29 GMT
#6303
There will never be another character wipe ever ever ever. Characters you make now will remain until release and beyond.

We don't really know what full release will be like; presumably it'll be when they have a few more acts + all of the desync issues solved. The storyline isn't complete yet in the beta.
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Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 01:53:50
February 18 2013 01:30 GMT
#6304
If a wand has +% projectile speed, does that apply to its auto attack only or also for your spells?

Edit: nvm, found out it does.
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
February 18 2013 02:02 GMT
#6305
Holy crap am I lucky, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get even more than the current c/o too..

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/157064/page/1
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
February 18 2013 02:06 GMT
#6306
On February 18 2013 11:02 Tennet wrote:
Holy crap am I lucky, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get even more than the current c/o too..

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/157064/page/1

Wow, nice haul!
Im curious, I havent played a caster yet, what spell damage % starts to be more than vendor worthy?
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
February 18 2013 02:09 GMT
#6307
I would guess 50+ but I'm not sure, I just know the wand I got is easily top 15 wands in OB so far.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 02:19:39
February 18 2013 02:17 GMT
#6308
Since I was a bit bored today I fully transcribed Zacras power leveling guide, easy to copy paste so you can put it wherever you want to. Keep in mind that this guide is intended to level up as fast as possible, especially in Normal/Cruel. Whenever you hit a new farming zone it makes sense to join parties, it also makes sense to have a few levels buffer here and there if you'd like to play it safe. The guide is intended for a rather safe ranged class in hardcore, you can probably run with a bit less health if you're ranged/summoner and will most likely need more with a melee class. Getting waypoints / having higher level characters help you out with bossfights also greatly increases your speed.

Estimated time for the entire Normal run: 3.5h

All credit for the content goes to Zacra (http://www.youtube.com/user/ProjectZacra), here's the original playlist:




General formula for getting max XP in a certain zone: (3 +/- current level) / 16

e.g. you get full xp for zones up to +/-3 at level 12, +/-4 at level 16, +/-5 at level 32.


Normal:
A1:
Sprint to Hillock, kill him.
Terraces, run to mud flats (Get lvl 2)
Grab Rhoa Glyphs (Get lvl 3)
Get Ledge Waypoint, start farming Ledge. (3-9)
Find Brutus party, kill Brutus.
Coves (till 12) -> Kill Merveil -> Forest (hit 13)

A2:
Old Fields -> Crossroads (get WP!) (hit 14)
Fellshrine (hit 16)
Western Forest (CARE) (hit 21)
Parties: Weaver, Chamber of Sin lvl 3 (Lightning res!)
Ancient Seal/Tree
Bandits
Hit 22 before Ancient Pyramid
Vaal (have to be 23)

A3
City of Sarn (hit 24/25, avoid Boss (hug south western wall!))
Sarn Slums (quest, Soldiers at one of the edges-CARE GUARD CPT) - find sewers entrance (drop tp)
Party: Crematorium lvl 2 (fire/lightning dmg - MOVE)
Sewers (care! get WP for Warehouse)
Farm Warehouse (start 25 earliest) till 28/29
Docks (till 31), get quest item, CARE DOGS
Get solaris lvl 3 wp,
Barracks, quest
Warehouse Sewers (open black path)
Party kill General
Kill Piety (max fire and cold resists!)
Open Battlefront door, hf cruel


Cruel:
1.2k+ health

A1
get 31 before Ledge. hit 35 (~39 if you want it safe)

A2
Forest (hit 37)
Fellshrine (42) (Quests 40+, Weaver/Chamber lvl 3)
Bandits (CARE OAK)

A3
City of Sarn: 42-45
Docks (Party!) till 48
Piety (Fire = take RANGE, Ice/Lighning = DODGE)


MERCILESS:
2.5k+ health

A1
Mudflats, get Glyphs
Ledge till 53
Brutus/Merveil(Cold res!)

A2
4k+ Health
Fellshrine: To 69. Groups! hf grinding.
Quests
Chamber (Lightning res!)
Weaver (Flicker! Poison!)
River Crossing runes
Bandits (Care Oak, kite!)
Vaal: Armor/Lightning - Big Party! Summons! Granite Flask for Rock
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
February 18 2013 02:45 GMT
#6309
On February 18 2013 11:17 r.Evo wrote:
Since I was a bit bored today I fully transcribed Zacras power leveling guide, easy to copy paste so you can put it wherever you want to. Keep in mind that this guide is intended to level up as fast as possible, especially in Normal/Cruel. Whenever you hit a new farming zone it makes sense to join parties, it also makes sense to have a few levels buffer here and there if you'd like to play it safe. The guide is intended for a rather safe ranged class in hardcore, you can probably run with a bit less health if you're ranged/summoner and will most likely need more with a melee class. Getting waypoints / having higher level characters help you out with bossfights also greatly increases your speed.

Estimated time for the entire Normal run: 3.5h

All credit for the content goes to Zacra (http://www.youtube.com/user/ProjectZacra), here's the original playlist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNMI30hMvLA&list=PLVxAhn7nY9xk2ZQ3mE94stFaZH6Vu04Y7


General formula for getting max XP in a certain zone: (3 +/- current level) / 16

e.g. you get full xp for zones up to +/-3 at level 12, +/-4 at level 16, +/-5 at level 32.


Normal:
A1:
Sprint to Hillock, kill him.
Terraces, run to mud flats (Get lvl 2)
Grab Rhoa Glyphs (Get lvl 3)
Get Ledge Waypoint, start farming Ledge. (3-9)
Find Brutus party, kill Brutus.
Coves (till 12) -> Kill Merveil -> Forest (hit 13)

A2:
Old Fields -> Crossroads (get WP!) (hit 14)
Fellshrine (hit 16)
Western Forest (CARE) (hit 21)
Parties: Weaver, Chamber of Sin lvl 3 (Lightning res!)
Ancient Seal/Tree
Bandits
Hit 22 before Ancient Pyramid
Vaal (have to be 23)

A3
City of Sarn (hit 24/25, avoid Boss (hug south western wall!))
Sarn Slums (quest, Soldiers at one of the edges-CARE GUARD CPT) - find sewers entrance (drop tp)
Party: Crematorium lvl 2 (fire/lightning dmg - MOVE)
Sewers (care! get WP for Warehouse)
Farm Warehouse (start 25 earliest) till 28/29
Docks (till 31), get quest item, CARE DOGS
Get solaris lvl 3 wp,
Barracks, quest
Warehouse Sewers (open black path)
Party kill General
Kill Piety (max fire and cold resists!)
Open Battlefront door, hf cruel


Cruel:
1.2k+ health

A1
get 31 before Ledge. hit 35 (~39 if you want it safe)

A2
Forest (hit 37)
Fellshrine (42) (Quests 40+, Weaver/Chamber lvl 3)
Bandits (CARE OAK)

A3
City of Sarn: 42-45
Docks (Party!) till 48
Piety (Fire = take RANGE, Ice/Lighning = DODGE)


MERCILESS:
2.5k+ health

A1
Mudflats, get Glyphs
Ledge till 53
Brutus/Merveil(Cold res!)

A2
4k+ Health
Fellshrine: To 69. Groups! hf grinding.
Quests
Chamber (Lightning res!)
Weaver (Flicker! Poison!)
River Crossing runes
Bandits (Care Oak, kite!)
Vaal: Armor/Lightning - Big Party! Summons! Granite Flask for Rock

Farming Ledge from level 3 is inefficient since you are -4 in level. I think it is too risky, so gain a level or 2 in submerged (should be hard to avoid though!). The rest seems about right. I am not sure needing party is a good idea in such a guide, but I guess it is mostly for safety.
Repeat before me
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
February 18 2013 02:53 GMT
#6310
On February 18 2013 11:02 Tennet wrote:
Holy crap am I lucky, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get even more than the current c/o too..

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/157064/page/1



Wow, I saw that wand earlier today on the forums. Crazy stuff man! Really nice upgrade for all the spellcasters out there
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
February 18 2013 03:00 GMT
#6311
yeah ^^ I will need to figure out what stuff I will need to get with the profit, I'd like to keep as much as I can but I would also like to get some nice upgrades and things.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
whoso
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany523 Posts
February 18 2013 03:03 GMT
#6312
is faster block and stun recovery actually important for some builds? im using unwavering stance so i wouldnt recognize, but i also never hear anyone talking about it, and fhr was so important in d2 : )
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
February 18 2013 03:22 GMT
#6313
Any1 have a chain for sale on hardcore for somewhat cheap?
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
February 18 2013 04:21 GMT
#6314
Anyone here has short races experience? I did a few 1h Duelist runs, but I'm still pretty far away from the numbers I've seen. I tried both DW and 2h, and get to ~400k with both, but I don't see how to get to 500k+ besides getting really lucky (quicksilver, MS boots, good weapon).

My run is basically:
Run to Hillock. Run to Mud Flats. Grab glyphs, level ~2.5. Run to waypoint, grab fire trap and possibly coral ring. Hit ledge at level 4, equip -4% movespeed chest, kill stuff on the way, hit 7.
Kill stuff on 1st floor for level 8.5. Kill stuff on 2nd floor for level 9. Kill Brutus. This is ~25 mins.
Grab Leap Slam if 2h, Hatred if DW. (Not sure about this. Leap Slam allows to skip some areas and deal with desyncs, but Hatred does kill faster).
Hit level 10 so you can leap slam to avoid the big fire dog. Run until Cove. Hit 11 in Cove.
Cavern of Wrath. Waypoint, grab sapphire ring + added fire damage (cleave). Hit 12.
Cavern of Anger, Hit 13. Kill Merveil. 45 mins ideally, usually 50 if something went wrong.
Hit 15 on the way to Western Forest. Farm the hell out of it, or farm crossing. I'm not sure about this last part either. I end up about ~400k either way, and Dark Forest can ruin your run if you get unlucky with the exit.

I've never seen a quicksilver flask in ~5 runs, and only twice got MS boots. So far I've been lucky and always had at least one portal and one medium life flask before Brutus.
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
February 18 2013 04:24 GMT
#6315
On February 18 2013 12:03 whoso wrote:
is faster block and stun recovery actually important for some builds? im using unwavering stance so i wouldnt recognize, but i also never hear anyone talking about it, and fhr was so important in d2 : )

You don't need block or stun recovery with unwavering stance.
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
February 18 2013 04:30 GMT
#6316
That's what he's saying. He wants to know whether other builds need those stats.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 18 2013 04:49 GMT
#6317
On February 18 2013 11:45 radiatoren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 11:17 r.Evo wrote:
Since I was a bit bored today I fully transcribed Zacras power leveling guide, easy to copy paste so you can put it wherever you want to. Keep in mind that this guide is intended to level up as fast as possible, especially in Normal/Cruel. Whenever you hit a new farming zone it makes sense to join parties, it also makes sense to have a few levels buffer here and there if you'd like to play it safe. The guide is intended for a rather safe ranged class in hardcore, you can probably run with a bit less health if you're ranged/summoner and will most likely need more with a melee class. Getting waypoints / having higher level characters help you out with bossfights also greatly increases your speed.

Estimated time for the entire Normal run: 3.5h

All credit for the content goes to Zacra (http://www.youtube.com/user/ProjectZacra), here's the original playlist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNMI30hMvLA&list=PLVxAhn7nY9xk2ZQ3mE94stFaZH6Vu04Y7


General formula for getting max XP in a certain zone: (3 +/- current level) / 16

e.g. you get full xp for zones up to +/-3 at level 12, +/-4 at level 16, +/-5 at level 32.


Normal:
A1:
Sprint to Hillock, kill him.
Terraces, run to mud flats (Get lvl 2)
Grab Rhoa Glyphs (Get lvl 3)
Get Ledge Waypoint, start farming Ledge. (3-9)
Find Brutus party, kill Brutus.
Coves (till 12) -> Kill Merveil -> Forest (hit 13)

A2:
Old Fields -> Crossroads (get WP!) (hit 14)
Fellshrine (hit 16)
Western Forest (CARE) (hit 21)
Parties: Weaver, Chamber of Sin lvl 3 (Lightning res!)
Ancient Seal/Tree
Bandits
Hit 22 before Ancient Pyramid
Vaal (have to be 23)

A3
City of Sarn (hit 24/25, avoid Boss (hug south western wall!))
Sarn Slums (quest, Soldiers at one of the edges-CARE GUARD CPT) - find sewers entrance (drop tp)
Party: Crematorium lvl 2 (fire/lightning dmg - MOVE)
Sewers (care! get WP for Warehouse)
Farm Warehouse (start 25 earliest) till 28/29
Docks (till 31), get quest item, CARE DOGS
Get solaris lvl 3 wp,
Barracks, quest
Warehouse Sewers (open black path)
Party kill General
Kill Piety (max fire and cold resists!)
Open Battlefront door, hf cruel


Cruel:
1.2k+ health

A1
get 31 before Ledge. hit 35 (~39 if you want it safe)

A2
Forest (hit 37)
Fellshrine (42) (Quests 40+, Weaver/Chamber lvl 3)
Bandits (CARE OAK)

A3
City of Sarn: 42-45
Docks (Party!) till 48
Piety (Fire = take RANGE, Ice/Lighning = DODGE)


MERCILESS:
2.5k+ health

A1
Mudflats, get Glyphs
Ledge till 53
Brutus/Merveil(Cold res!)

A2
4k+ Health
Fellshrine: To 69. Groups! hf grinding.
Quests
Chamber (Lightning res!)
Weaver (Flicker! Poison!)
River Crossing runes
Bandits (Care Oak, kite!)
Vaal: Armor/Lightning - Big Party! Summons! Granite Flask for Rock

Farming Ledge from level 3 is inefficient since you are -4 in level. I think it is too risky, so gain a level or 2 in submerged (should be hard to avoid though!). The rest seems about right. I am not sure needing party is a good idea in such a guide, but I guess it is mostly for safety.

Yeah a lot of the spots where he recommends parties is because he's underleveled but has solid gear from previous runs. People with less gear / experience prolly do in groups in those cases.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
ezk
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 06:13:09
February 18 2013 06:12 GMT
#6318
On February 18 2013 13:21 Pwere wrote:I've never seen a quicksilver flask in ~5 runs, and only twice got MS boots. So far I've been lucky and always had at least one portal and one medium life flask before Brutus.



There's always one you can get from Mercy Quest (Kill Hailrake in Tidal Island) but I'm not sure if its worth the time getting.
Geneq
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland165 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 10:07:02
February 18 2013 10:06 GMT
#6319
is there any guide/tips on which rares are worth posting for trade and which ones to just vendor? I have full stashes of rares with lvlreq 40+ and no idea what to do with them.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 18 2013 10:10 GMT
#6320
Max HP, the actual defensive stats on the item, # of slots/links, and resistances tend to be a good starting point. For weapons you'll have a harder time figuring out, because different builds value different stats.
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