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Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
February 03 2013 14:01 GMT
#5101
Hmm, that's a little shady.. There is a chest I was going after that got reposted as a 1 hour bid, I was the last bid posted but it was sold 12 minutes later for more? The thread was started 59 minutes before my post which is pretty safe to assume the 1 hour bid time ends 1 hour after the post was made, not when his edit was made. *sigh* it was the perfect opportunity to get that chest and I probably should have gotten it but oh well. I have one 5L selling for a rising price.
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
February 03 2013 14:27 GMT
#5102
Anyone here wanting to sell a 5L Bow / Chest (Lvl53+) Dex based ... and Elemental Hit?
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Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
February 03 2013 14:59 GMT
#5103
On February 03 2013 16:29 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 15:48 Tennet wrote:
On February 03 2013 15:45 Benjamin99 wrote:
Rip 73 HC lifeleechs

Got stuck between boxes and had to yellow crit mobs on me

Welcome to TL's softcore map team! And I will for sure start or continue my HC templar when you reroll HC and work on the build we were just talking about =)


Well ill still play lifeleechs now and again because the build is so fun and could be cool to get it in the build of the week. But yea atm I'm trying to figure out what to make next because I normally never do the same build twice

Ok next charecter will be Duelist with huge life regen and bow elemental. LifeleechsTwo


ooooh noooooo lifeleeeeeecccch! rip man.

Ill make sure my witch gets to avenge your death when she gets there.

Looks like you now have some catching up to do but no rush haha
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 15:31:42
February 03 2013 15:14 GMT
#5104
On February 03 2013 23:59 Obstikal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 16:29 Benjamin99 wrote:
On February 03 2013 15:48 Tennet wrote:
On February 03 2013 15:45 Benjamin99 wrote:
Rip 73 HC lifeleechs

Got stuck between boxes and had to yellow crit mobs on me

Welcome to TL's softcore map team! And I will for sure start or continue my HC templar when you reroll HC and work on the build we were just talking about =)


Well ill still play lifeleechs now and again because the build is so fun and could be cool to get it in the build of the week. But yea atm I'm trying to figure out what to make next because I normally never do the same build twice

Ok next charecter will be Duelist with huge life regen and bow elemental. LifeleechsTwo


ooooh noooooo lifeleeeeeecccch! rip man.

Ill make sure my witch gets to avenge your death when she gets there.

Looks like you now have some catching up to do but no rush haha

Do you mind posting your passive skilltree? I am really curious on how to improve the survivability of my witch apart from stacking ES.

Edit: For reference, this is where I'm currently at,:
+ Show Spoiler +
Level 42 (50 points)

and this is my "short-term" plan:
+ Show Spoiler +
68 points


I am currently using Freezing Pulse as main skill but I still have a lot of experimenting to do on what gem combinations to use while my items are currently far from where I would like them to have at this point of the game. This was my first character so after dying to often in Act 2 Cruel I decided to stop and make a new shadow and ranger which are both at around the same level (42-45) but seem to be doing a lot better. I still want to do most of the research myself but a little advice would be appreciated.
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 03 2013 15:30 GMT
#5105
Oh lord. Time to blow bank on a thicket bow ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
February 03 2013 15:34 GMT
#5106
Account: Mithhaike
Build: Elemental Bloodmagic Ranger (Frenzy/Lightning arrow)
Softcore

Just started to use Blood Magic, because i finally got a 3Green1Red chest for Lightning Arrow. LA is fun ^^.

Guys im level 50, my Normal attack DPS is 500, Frenzy 800, LA 380+....is that good or bad?
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 16:03:40
February 03 2013 15:44 GMT
#5107
Very good unless that is with auras. Then you're just average. I question using Frenzy as an elemental build though. Can you not afford Elemental Hit?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 15:54:38
February 03 2013 15:48 GMT
#5108
On February 04 2013 00:14 MrKn4rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 23:59 Obstikal wrote:
On February 03 2013 16:29 Benjamin99 wrote:
On February 03 2013 15:48 Tennet wrote:
On February 03 2013 15:45 Benjamin99 wrote:
Rip 73 HC lifeleechs

Got stuck between boxes and had to yellow crit mobs on me

Welcome to TL's softcore map team! And I will for sure start or continue my HC templar when you reroll HC and work on the build we were just talking about =)


Well ill still play lifeleechs now and again because the build is so fun and could be cool to get it in the build of the week. But yea atm I'm trying to figure out what to make next because I normally never do the same build twice

Ok next charecter will be Duelist with huge life regen and bow elemental. LifeleechsTwo


ooooh noooooo lifeleeeeeecccch! rip man.

Ill make sure my witch gets to avenge your death when she gets there.

Looks like you now have some catching up to do but no rush haha

Do you mind posting your passive skilltree? I am really curious on how to improve the survivability of my witch apart from stacking ES.

Edit: For reference, this is where I'm currently at,:
+ Show Spoiler +
Level 42 (50 points)

and this is my "short-term" plan:
+ Show Spoiler +
68 points


I am currently using Freezing Pulse as main skill but I still have a lot of experimenting to do on what gem combinations to use while my items are currently far from where I would like them to have at this point of the game. This was my first character so after dying to often in Act 2 Cruel I decided to stop and make a new shadow and ranger which are both at around the same level (42-45) but seem to be doing a lot better. I still want to do most of the research myself but a little advice would be appreciated.


Sadly, the key to making witches survive is using minions. Before, you used to be able to get away with stacking ES because you could get MUCH more ES than hp.

Now you can still get more ES, but it's far more in line with max hp people get on tanky chars. ES is basically all round inferior to hp for survivability due to the mechanics of stun and elemental ailments. The end result is that to be survivable as witch is to not get hit much, thus use minions (and maybe totem) to tank for you while you cast your spells.

I'm using a cold witch with a similar build to yours, and refusing to use minions because I find them dull. But I fully expect that I would be completely unable to level by halfway through merciless due to dying so often (well i guess i could find a party to tank for me), at which stage I will have to use minions out of necessity too.
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Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1556 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 16:07:21
February 03 2013 16:03 GMT
#5109
On February 03 2013 21:41 Rah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 05:01 Pwere wrote:
On February 03 2013 04:41 Rah wrote:
I might check this out sometime soon. Could anyone give me a suggested class/ build for a melee character that's tanky (either beefy or evasive) with dependable (high) dps? I know modern games don't usually design a class to have both, but whatever's the most solid dps as a tank is what I'm asking. Do any of the melee fighters have stronger abilities but on longer cooldowns compared to the others?
If you want to tank in melee, there is no way around Endurance Charges. Pick Templar/Marauder/Duelist and grab all three extra charges in the tree.

Templars are best with a shield, Marauders can go either way, and Duelists... well they're not very good at the moment. The tankiest of the lot is probably a Marauder with 1h Mace + Shield. Something like this:
Level ~30 Mace&Shield Marauder
Level ~50 Macerauder
Level ~75 Shield&Slam
You can respec some points lategame when your gear gets ridiculous. This build is as tanky as it is boring !
Main skills: Ground Slam, Glacial Hammer, Leap Slam, Enduring Cry.


I appreciate all the effort you put into this post, but like I said I'm not looking for a boring ass tank and slowly tire stuff out kind of set up. I'm looking for a tank that is equally as potent in his damage, one you have to use some tactics with but it rewards you with a lot of versatility. Some examples of this are EQ Warrior, and SWTOR Juggernaut with Rage spec, but those aren't the same type of game I know.
Melee deals tons of damage. The problem for all melee classes is that you basically have to move to every single mob to kill them. Ground slam is the least annoying of these because it has some range, and the shield allows you to play recklessly to kill faster.

Otherwise, I'd suggest an Ethereal Knife build, with any class really. They seem overpowered at the moment, and the only real risk is killing yourself on reflect damage. Bows are also very easy to build for and play, and are not that reliant on gear.
On February 03 2013 23:01 Tennet wrote:
Hmm, that's a little shady.. There is a chest I was going after that got reposted as a 1 hour bid, I was the last bid posted but it was sold 12 minutes later for more? The thread was started 59 minutes before my post which is pretty safe to assume the 1 hour bid time ends 1 hour after the post was made, not when his edit was made. *sigh* it was the perfect opportunity to get that chest and I probably should have gotten it but oh well. I have one 5L selling for a rising price.
I had a guy take my offer in-game and advertise it several times in the chat to try and get more. At the end, he said he'd try to sell it again later for a higher price instead, and I told him to kindly go fuck himself. Lots of short-sighted scum around.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 03 2013 16:12 GMT
#5110
Whenever you get into a bidding war with somebody it feels shady. Half the time I feel like the seller is just asking me to pay more for an item and there isn't actually another person.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
February 03 2013 16:14 GMT
#5111
You compare one stacking two defenses : life & something else to one stacking only energy shield. What I understand to this game is that you have to stack at least 2 different defenses to be able to survive : ES + meat shield, life + armour & often more than two, like life, block chance, ES, meat shield
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
February 03 2013 16:26 GMT
#5112
Thanks, sounds like I'll try to build an Ethereal Knife shadow then. I'll start with hardcore, it will be funny to see how long I last. =p
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-Dustin-
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States718 Posts
February 03 2013 16:55 GMT
#5113
Well guys I'm starting a new character (Hardcore) and I was wondering if anyone wanted to make new chars and party up?

Gonna be a Marauder
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
February 03 2013 16:58 GMT
#5114
On February 04 2013 01:55 -Dustin- wrote:
Well guys I'm starting a new character (Hardcore) and I was wondering if anyone wanted to make new chars and party up?

Gonna be a Marauder


Well I'm levelling up a new character atm lvl 27. And we got like 3-4 people at 35-40. And people start to use the TL TS
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-Dustin-
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States718 Posts
February 03 2013 17:01 GMT
#5115
Ehh I guess I'm going to have to get Teamspeak..
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 03 2013 17:07 GMT
#5116
How vital is chaos resistance for maps? Can't find any gear with chaos resistance on it ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
February 03 2013 17:10 GMT
#5117
I think pure es builds are still viable they are just a lot more gear dependent. Imlvling a build identical to lifeleech but plan on having a skelly fast cast spell totem instead of investing into minions. Im also running an ek shadow on bc. Seems like a simple build so Im considering using him for farming for the gear I would need for my witch. They seem pretty tanky I'm at 1333 at lvl37
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
February 03 2013 17:21 GMT
#5118
got dual totem for my summoner and trying out Ice Spear versus Spark

haven't tried Spark yet, but have Ice Spear linked with Totem + GMP + Elemental Proliferation + Faster Casting

it's a god damn frame rate killer
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-Dustin-
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States718 Posts
February 03 2013 17:25 GMT
#5119
On February 04 2013 01:58 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 01:55 -Dustin- wrote:
Well guys I'm starting a new character (Hardcore) and I was wondering if anyone wanted to make new chars and party up?

Gonna be a Marauder


Well I'm levelling up a new character atm lvl 27. And we got like 3-4 people at 35-40. And people start to use the TL TS

I'm not even sure if I found the right TS I'm on Teamliquid.net but the one from the link on the website doesn't work for me. Only see like 3 people here :p.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
February 03 2013 17:58 GMT
#5120
On February 04 2013 02:10 Obstikal wrote:
I think pure es builds are still viable they are just a lot more gear dependent. Imlvling a build identical to lifeleech but plan on having a skelly fast cast spell totem instead of investing into minions. Im also running an ek shadow on bc. Seems like a simple build so Im considering using him for farming for the gear I would need for my witch. They seem pretty tanky I'm at 1333 at lvl37


1.3k es at 37? do you have 100% increased ES on every piece of gear or something?
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