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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 29 2012 04:28 GMT
#9261
On May 29 2012 10:02 NuclearJudas wrote:
Of course. I'd still hold at least Croatia over them as of now, but Belgium's talent pool is amazing: Coutois (20), Mignolet (23), Alderweireld (23), Verthongen (25), Vermaelen (26), Kompany (26), Fellaini (24), Witsel (23), Hazard (21), Mertens (25), Defour (24), Chadli (22), Nainggolan (24), Dembélé (24), Lukaku (19), De Bruyne (20), and the crazy thing is that I'm probably missing someone. Belgium should have a great future to look forward to. I can see them being a huge threat at the 2016 Euros (2014 might be too early).


Nainggolan pretty good holding midfielder, and ofc van buyten lots of experience.
Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
May 29 2012 05:30 GMT
#9262
On May 29 2012 12:30 Surrealistic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 06:54 RvB wrote:
On May 29 2012 06:40 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah we are sending Cortios back on loan him himself said he would like 1year in england premier league before playing for Chelsea, but i think he will go back to Atletico again. And DeBruyne will be given pre season with us and if he performs well he will stay if not he will be out back on loan too, according to club i think. But who knows we might have a new manager and new tactics and what not then! Hello Pep? xD


It's Courtois and it's not like he's going to actually play for Chelsea any time soon if Cech keeps owning it up like he does now.

+ Cech just signed a new 4 year deal.

Btw Italian FA withdrew Criscito from the Euros because he is under investigation for match fixing. That's quite amazing. Meanwhile, John Terry will be there.


Has Terry been doing any match fixing we don't know about?
Don't count your apples before they've... grown
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
May 29 2012 08:38 GMT
#9263
On May 29 2012 13:28 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 10:02 NuclearJudas wrote:
Of course. I'd still hold at least Croatia over them as of now, but Belgium's talent pool is amazing: Coutois (20), Mignolet (23), Alderweireld (23), Verthongen (25), Vermaelen (26), Kompany (26), Fellaini (24), Witsel (23), Hazard (21), Mertens (25), Defour (24), Chadli (22), Nainggolan (24), Dembélé (24), Lukaku (19), De Bruyne (20), and the crazy thing is that I'm probably missing someone. Belgium should have a great future to look forward to. I can see them being a huge threat at the 2016 Euros (2014 might be too early).


Nainggolan pretty good holding midfielder, and ofc van buyten lots of experience.


You might want to hold your horses against Croatia. We suck atm and things don't look like they're gonna change anytime soon. Manager is leaving after EC and his heir, although "politically" excellent, is still unproven in big matches and we'll see how will team respond to him.

Honestly, i see Belgium as 1st place in that group, and it'll be fight between us and Serbs for the 2nd place (and by fight i mean probably much more than just on the field considering the history between our people).
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
May 29 2012 12:38 GMT
#9264
On May 29 2012 13:21 Neelia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 11:36 NuclearJudas wrote:
On May 29 2012 11:29 nitram wrote:
On May 29 2012 02:00 bObaZ wrote:
Witsel is good as hell! I'm a Benfica Fan, and when they announced in the beggining of the season that they bought an almost unknown belgium midfielder for 7M€ i thought that they were crazy. But he's SOOOO SOOOO GOOD.... Sadly i don't think that he'll stay on Benfica much time

He shouldn't play for Benefica, or any else for that matter. Hes dirty and should have gotten expelled from the sport.

Care to elaborate? I haven't seen anything of the Portuguese league or Benfica for that matter this season, besides the first lag vs Chelsea. Is he a diver, or what?

(dat leg break)

It seems more like a lapse in judgement to me. Of course it doesn't belong on the pitch, but does he have a history of doing other stupid shit like this? Because one mistake shouldn't condemn your entire career, imo.

As far as the WC qualifiers, I didn't know that Croatia was looking that bad. I'll still hold Belgium as a wild-card. Maybe they smash the group, or they fail to get a rhythm going together in the national team.

Also, surprised to hear that Criscito was under investigation for match fixing. I guess this is from a season or two ago? Will definitely weaken Italy's chances at taking the cup.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Mango
Profile Joined July 2006
Belgium522 Posts
May 29 2012 13:05 GMT
#9265
On May 29 2012 21:38 NuclearJudas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 13:21 Neelia wrote:
On May 29 2012 11:36 NuclearJudas wrote:
On May 29 2012 11:29 nitram wrote:
On May 29 2012 02:00 bObaZ wrote:
Witsel is good as hell! I'm a Benfica Fan, and when they announced in the beggining of the season that they bought an almost unknown belgium midfielder for 7M€ i thought that they were crazy. But he's SOOOO SOOOO GOOD.... Sadly i don't think that he'll stay on Benfica much time

He shouldn't play for Benefica, or any else for that matter. Hes dirty and should have gotten expelled from the sport.

Care to elaborate? I haven't seen anything of the Portuguese league or Benfica for that matter this season, besides the first lag vs Chelsea. Is he a diver, or what?

(dat leg break)

It seems more like a lapse in judgement to me. Of course it doesn't belong on the pitch, but does he have a history of doing other stupid shit like this? Because one mistake shouldn't condemn your entire career, imo.

As far as the WC qualifiers, I didn't know that Croatia was looking that bad. I'll still hold Belgium as a wild-card. Maybe they smash the group, or they fail to get a rhythm going together in the national team.

Also, surprised to hear that Criscito was under investigation for match fixing. I guess this is from a season or two ago? Will definitely weaken Italy's chances at taking the cup.

It is the only serious case I think, yet one that will haunt him forever. While faults like that are just an utter disgrace, he served his sentence so I think he deserves a second chance.

And the belgian players have veery much talent for the moment, but they suck bigtime as a team. Hopefully a new coach can forge a team out of all those players, cause otherwise they are the underdogs for their group for certain. Looking forward to England-Belgium this weekend though, might become a nice match.
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
May 29 2012 14:42 GMT
#9266
So he broke someones leg or...?
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51629 Posts
May 29 2012 14:44 GMT
#9267
Ryan Shawcross broke Ramsey's leg. Do we see people hate on him for it (from a neutral perspective)?

My only problem is that if they are repeat offenders/are doing it on purpose, THEN they should be expelled from the game.
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EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
May 29 2012 14:47 GMT
#9268
hmm, hazard to chelsea. I guess kagawa to united then.
Dear Sixsmith...
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 29 2012 14:55 GMT
#9269
cant wait to see kagawa at united
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
May 29 2012 15:15 GMT
#9270
Fucking hope it's true, Hazard is exactly what we need, versatile and pacey just like Ramires. Plus a Belgian. Couldn't be any better for us, if his comment about joining the champions league winners is true! Plus it's like when we signed Drog, he was banging them in for Marseille then he joined us and voila! And Eden was banging them in for Lille now looks like he will join us...Fingers crossed!

Kagawa is a much much better choice for United, make it happen Ferguson.
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 16:12:33
May 29 2012 16:11 GMT
#9271
On May 29 2012 22:05 Mango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 21:38 NuclearJudas wrote:
On May 29 2012 13:21 Neelia wrote:
On May 29 2012 11:36 NuclearJudas wrote:
On May 29 2012 11:29 nitram wrote:
On May 29 2012 02:00 bObaZ wrote:
Witsel is good as hell! I'm a Benfica Fan, and when they announced in the beggining of the season that they bought an almost unknown belgium midfielder for 7M€ i thought that they were crazy. But he's SOOOO SOOOO GOOD.... Sadly i don't think that he'll stay on Benfica much time

He shouldn't play for Benefica, or any else for that matter. Hes dirty and should have gotten expelled from the sport.

Care to elaborate? I haven't seen anything of the Portuguese league or Benfica for that matter this season, besides the first lag vs Chelsea. Is he a diver, or what?

(dat leg break)

It seems more like a lapse in judgement to me. Of course it doesn't belong on the pitch, but does he have a history of doing other stupid shit like this? Because one mistake shouldn't condemn your entire career, imo.

As far as the WC qualifiers, I didn't know that Croatia was looking that bad. I'll still hold Belgium as a wild-card. Maybe they smash the group, or they fail to get a rhythm going together in the national team.

Also, surprised to hear that Criscito was under investigation for match fixing. I guess this is from a season or two ago? Will definitely weaken Italy's chances at taking the cup.

It is the only serious case I think, yet one that will haunt him forever. While faults like that are just an utter disgrace, he served his sentence so I think he deserves a second chance.

And the belgian players have veery much talent for the moment, but they suck bigtime as a team. Hopefully a new coach can forge a team out of all those players, cause otherwise they are the underdogs for their group for certain. Looking forward to England-Belgium this weekend though, might become a nice match.

He served an incredibly light sentence. A real sentence would be jail time. Just look how he attacked the 'ball'. What on earth was he trying to do other then cause physical damage to the defender? And when he put his hands up in the air like he can't believe hes even getting a foul call? My god, what a piece of s#$t.
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
May 29 2012 16:27 GMT
#9272
Sound like you just have something against the kid. It's an incredibly stupid challenge, but really does look like he's aiming for the ball. Kinda reminds me of the Shawcross/Ramsey incident. Jail time? No way, man. I've seen way worse tackles than that that didn't even result in a red. He got like 8 matches for his challenge, which I think was very fair, considering the situation.

In non-violent news, I guess Kagawa to United is a done deal now that Chelsea apparently has signed Hazard. Wanted to see him in an Arsenal jersey so bad.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
May 29 2012 17:11 GMT
#9273
On May 29 2012 23:44 GTR wrote:
Ryan Shawcross broke Ramsey's leg. Do we see people hate on him for it (from a neutral perspective)?

My only problem is that if they are repeat offenders/are doing it on purpose, THEN they should be expelled from the game.


I think between Shawcross and Witsel is quite a difference. Witsel acted like nothing happened and Shawcross went to Ramsey and tried to apologize while he left the field crying. The tackle was almost as bad as Witsel's but he showed at least a bit of sportsmanship.

While I agree expelling them from the game for a first time offense isn't the right thing, a 8 match ban and a 250e (wtf? that isn't a heavy fine, even for a school kid -_-) fine isn't right either imo.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
May 29 2012 17:19 GMT
#9274
On May 29 2012 23:44 GTR wrote:
Ryan Shawcross broke Ramsey's leg. Do we see people hate on him for it (from a neutral perspective)?

My only problem is that if they are repeat offenders/are doing it on purpose, THEN they should be expelled from the game.


Witsel was in fact a repeat offender in Belgium. He made the headlines in the Netherlands on three occasions and probably more than that in Belgium. Honestly eight matches is a really light punishment for someone who goes in full force with studs showing.
bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
May 29 2012 17:30 GMT
#9275
On May 30 2012 02:19 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 23:44 GTR wrote:
Ryan Shawcross broke Ramsey's leg. Do we see people hate on him for it (from a neutral perspective)?

My only problem is that if they are repeat offenders/are doing it on purpose, THEN they should be expelled from the game.


Witsel was in fact a repeat offender in Belgium. He made the headlines in the Netherlands on three occasions and probably more than that in Belgium. Honestly eight matches is a really light punishment for someone who goes in full force with studs showing.


I've heard of his reputation once he arrived in Benfica, but i was surprised as he wasn't ever agressive towards any opponent in any match this season...
fbs
Profile Joined February 2003
United Kingdom2476 Posts
May 29 2012 17:38 GMT
#9276
Maybe he learned his lesson, it's pretty sad that he got away with doing something like that, there should be huge fines and bans if its judged to be on purpose. 8 games is nothing for potentially ruining a career and a team's chances of surviving/ promotion. I wonder if he got full pay when banned.
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2395 Posts
May 29 2012 17:44 GMT
#9277
He's actually next door neighbour to a colleague of mine and apparently he's quite a nice chap. He's played clean for Benfica so far.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 17:47:18
May 29 2012 17:46 GMT
#9278
On May 30 2012 02:30 bObaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 02:19 Ysellian wrote:
On May 29 2012 23:44 GTR wrote:
Ryan Shawcross broke Ramsey's leg. Do we see people hate on him for it (from a neutral perspective)?

My only problem is that if they are repeat offenders/are doing it on purpose, THEN they should be expelled from the game.


Witsel was in fact a repeat offender in Belgium. He made the headlines in the Netherlands on three occasions and probably more than that in Belgium. Honestly eight matches is a really light punishment for someone who goes in full force with studs showing.


I've heard of his reputation once he arrived in Benfica, but i was surprised as he wasn't ever agressive towards any opponent in any match this season...


It's not that he is aggressive, I think, it's just that he was incredibly stupid.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 30 2012 01:43 GMT
#9279
LA Galaxy lost to RailHawks FC. WTF is going on, the Club is just tired.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 30 2012 01:52 GMT
#9280
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1081726/survey-shows-that-one-in-ten-people-follow-manchester-united?cc=5901

1/10 of the world's population support man utd
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