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sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 20:32:01
May 08 2012 20:27 GMT
#8141
Yay lukaku he will score a goal

NOOOO fuck you reina
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
May 08 2012 20:34 GMT
#8142
On May 09 2012 05:22 Telcontar wrote:
God I hope they lose in Munich. Can't wait to see all the smug faces turn sour at the prospect of playing in the Europa league next season.


Let me know how europa works out for you when you get 4th and we win the final
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 20:39:15
May 08 2012 20:37 GMT
#8143
On May 09 2012 05:34 Denzil wrote:
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On May 09 2012 05:22 Telcontar wrote:
God I hope they lose in Munich. Can't wait to see all the smug faces turn sour at the prospect of playing in the Europa league next season.


Let me know how europa works out for you when you get 4th and we win the final

We'll just have to wait and see won't we?

btw, this ref is awful.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 08 2012 20:42 GMT
#8144
omg telco from 2+2?
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
May 08 2012 20:42 GMT
#8145
Yes this ref is a tardbucket. Bad decisions both ways.
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
May 08 2012 20:43 GMT
#8146
On May 09 2012 05:19 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 05:13 sc4k wrote:
On May 09 2012 05:12 Twisted wrote:
On May 09 2012 05:03 sc4k wrote:
I can only laugh at this game...I really hope Di Matteo lets Lukaku have a run around. Liverpool are playing like they seriously care desperately and Chelsea are playing like it's a charity reserves match.


Really? with those idiot defenders of Chelsea elbowing people and throwing flying studs up tackles? Doubt they play like that at a charity event.


Well more like with the level of effort suitable to a charity reserves match . Skrtel just threw a two footed tackle at ramires didnt even get booked right? Wasn't watching too hard, cooking food. Anyway our defence is having a shocker for sure.


A lot of Chelsea hate in this thread I sense.

I like Chelsea. What I hated on was that retarded tackle by Essian against Carrol. Studs up from the back, should have been a straight red, absolutely ridiculous. He could have ended Carrol's career if that tackle goes bad. I wouldn't have been as mad if he would done it from the front, because at least Carrol can brace for the impact, from behind it just shows he's a coward.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
May 08 2012 20:47 GMT
#8147
Fucking hell suarez just tried to karate kick ivanovic and before illegally forearm smashed him in the face. Did Brany sleep with his girlfriend or something lol
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 20:58:48
May 08 2012 20:57 GMT
#8148
On May 09 2012 05:19 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 05:13 sc4k wrote:
On May 09 2012 05:12 Twisted wrote:
On May 09 2012 05:03 sc4k wrote:
I can only laugh at this game...I really hope Di Matteo lets Lukaku have a run around. Liverpool are playing like they seriously care desperately and Chelsea are playing like it's a charity reserves match.


Really? with those idiot defenders of Chelsea elbowing people and throwing flying studs up tackles? Doubt they play like that at a charity event.


Well more like with the level of effort suitable to a charity reserves match . Skrtel just threw a two footed tackle at ramires didnt even get booked right? Wasn't watching too hard, cooking food. Anyway our defence is having a shocker for sure.


A lot of Chelsea hate in this thread I sense.


I dont think people would be upset with Chelsea so much if it wasnt for the fanboys defending everytime they do something that really has no excuse.

If your club doesnt show up and plays poorly put your hand up and say yea no excuse. Instead you get "oh just reserves lolol, they dont care". There is never an excuse for elite clubs. Never. I dont buy it not for Chelsea or Liverpool or Arsenal or United or Barca or Real or Munich or Milan or Inter, nope sorry. If you play bad football regardless of circumstance you need to say yes that was bad and it needs to improve.

Anyone would be skeptical.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
May 08 2012 20:57 GMT
#8149
Well done Liverpool, they actually managed to convert some chances...it's been an awful season with so many failed chances on goal, but they definitely can get back up there. Still, the Carroll buy was a terrible terrible piece of business, even if they managed to sell torres really high lol.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 21:03:40
May 08 2012 21:02 GMT
#8150
On May 09 2012 05:57 Rebs wrote:There is never an excuse for elite clubs. Never. I dont buy it..


Of course there is. Man U got beaten by Blackburn 2-3 partly because they put a reserve team on the pitch (and Blackburn got an offside goal allowed at the end). Arsenal got beat 8-2 v Man U partly because they had a shitload of injuries and the squad was in serious trouble. Man U lost to Man City 6-1 because they took a red card early.

Anyway, no Chelsea fan would begrudge Liverpool a well deserved victory but when you take out 8 starters then obviously you will have a lesser team. Also Turnbull is quite shite. Anyway what's the problem about not caring about the result? Pretty sure I'm allowed to not care about Liverpool beating us at anfield when we beat them at the FA cup.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 02:31:22
May 08 2012 21:08 GMT
#8151
haha please. These are pathetic excuses. I dont even think the clubs managers themselves would make some of those excuses with a straight face.

Unless half your squad is on a stretcher those results were inexcusable. Man U prides itself on a second 11 that could be just as good as the first. Arsenal was naive as fuck and terrible, they were a defensive wreck league 1 clubs defend better. Some of those goals admittedly were stunners so a little less flak could be taken for that. Same for United, Fergie was furious as fuck at how naive his team was playing after going a man down.

Chelsea got a redcard vs Barca, they didnt lose 6-1 ? It was stellar. Sorry United had no excuse. Especially those last 2-3 goals was just badness personified. Letting Everton at 4-2 up? Really bad dude. Sorry those are results that youve got wrapped up.

Atleast it was last year, not so much this one. There is no excuse for squads that have that kind of depth. There will be instances where you can be hard done by and you might be off form, sure or even the other team may well play good to but bad performances are there for all to see and you can tell pretty easily when they arent at the races, theres just no excuse sorry.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 21:10:04
May 08 2012 21:08 GMT
#8152
On May 09 2012 05:57 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 05:19 Denzil wrote:
On May 09 2012 05:13 sc4k wrote:
On May 09 2012 05:12 Twisted wrote:
On May 09 2012 05:03 sc4k wrote:
I can only laugh at this game...I really hope Di Matteo lets Lukaku have a run around. Liverpool are playing like they seriously care desperately and Chelsea are playing like it's a charity reserves match.


Really? with those idiot defenders of Chelsea elbowing people and throwing flying studs up tackles? Doubt they play like that at a charity event.


Well more like with the level of effort suitable to a charity reserves match . Skrtel just threw a two footed tackle at ramires didnt even get booked right? Wasn't watching too hard, cooking food. Anyway our defence is having a shocker for sure.


A lot of Chelsea hate in this thread I sense.


I dont think people would be upset with Chelsea so much if it wasnt for the fanboys defending everytime they do something that really has no excuse.

If your club doesnt show up and plays poorly put your hand up and say yea no excuse. Instead you get "oh just reserves lolol, they dont care". There is never an excuse for elite clubs. Never. I dont buy it not for Chelsea or Liverpool or Arsenal or United or Barca or Real or Munich or Milan or Inter, nope sorry. If you play bad football regardless of circumstance you need to say yes that was bad and it needs to improve.

Anyone would be skeptical.


Errm again what? We played the a LM and 2 defensive midfielders in a 3 man midfield? 3 players who havent even plyed 20 games this season. Essien looks shades of his former self, Romeu has not played since AVB was sacked and Malouda who actually the only player on the pitch to have a decent game. Ramires was tired after the final yet he played. Sturridge bottles out of every challenge reason he got taken off, Torres had 0 support. JT forgot his boots, Ivanovic lost his cool, Paulo is to old and looked slow, Bertrand had an ok game but lacks positioning. Then you have the keeper, who every game he plays for Chelsea makes 1 horrible mistake which he made when it looked like we might come back into the game.
Yes we played our reserves, because were "tired" according to our manager (dont know how atheletes on 100k + a week get tired but supposidly they do) so he makes 8 changes, and they clearly showed, from the get go Romeu Essien gave the ball away every time they had it, Paulo got skinned or out of position all the time. Suarez was nut megging everyone on the pitch and they get an own goal because Essien cant sense danger. They score a second because JT forgot his boots after Carroll (who i always liked tbh even when idiot LFC fans say he is terrible, he has never been terrible just lacked the service and confidence) ran our defense ragged winning most balls in the air. There is no excuse tonight apart from our "Manager" not making any changes when it needed too. Clearly in the first half and most of the second (minus 10minutes) none of the Chelsea team turned up they should of got a roasting at half time, should of been Alex Ferguson hair dryer treatment or a Mourinho bust up not whatever it was he did. He should of pulled Essien/Romeu off and put on Lamps or Mata, should of pulled off Paulo and put Hutchinson on, not do nothing and watch us get run off the park and Champions league football dissapear out of the window. We have just now put HUGE pressure on us to win that final now against a team in good form and with better player options ahead of the final. We still have our only 2 CBs injured for the final and we dont look going forward specially without Ramires. Don't know what Roberto was thinking, but he might of just kissed goodbye to champions league football, suicide imo.
Also, we play on sunday....why dont we rest ALL our players vs a relegated team in a game which could of been won with the fringe players? again suicide?....
Also can you say Liverpool played well? Hmm defensively they were poor on set peices, but were excellent on the counter attack with Downing Suarez and Carroll, and those 3 players looked good and sharp. Best player on the pitch by a mile was Carroll who like i want to say who i always liked and thought would be the next Drogba. And he will prove me right, but whether Liverpool play to his strengths in another question. But 3 mistakes cost Chelsea 3 goals, and Liverpool scored from a corner for the other. Job done for them
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 21:17:46
May 08 2012 21:14 GMT
#8153
On May 09 2012 06:08 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 05:57 Rebs wrote:
On May 09 2012 05:19 Denzil wrote:
On May 09 2012 05:13 sc4k wrote:
On May 09 2012 05:12 Twisted wrote:
On May 09 2012 05:03 sc4k wrote:
I can only laugh at this game...I really hope Di Matteo lets Lukaku have a run around. Liverpool are playing like they seriously care desperately and Chelsea are playing like it's a charity reserves match.


Really? with those idiot defenders of Chelsea elbowing people and throwing flying studs up tackles? Doubt they play like that at a charity event.


Well more like with the level of effort suitable to a charity reserves match . Skrtel just threw a two footed tackle at ramires didnt even get booked right? Wasn't watching too hard, cooking food. Anyway our defence is having a shocker for sure.


A lot of Chelsea hate in this thread I sense.


I dont think people would be upset with Chelsea so much if it wasnt for the fanboys defending everytime they do something that really has no excuse.

If your club doesnt show up and plays poorly put your hand up and say yea no excuse. Instead you get "oh just reserves lolol, they dont care". There is never an excuse for elite clubs. Never. I dont buy it not for Chelsea or Liverpool or Arsenal or United or Barca or Real or Munich or Milan or Inter, nope sorry. If you play bad football regardless of circumstance you need to say yes that was bad and it needs to improve.

Anyone would be skeptical.


Errm again what? We played the a LM and 2 defensive midfielders in a 3 man midfield? 3 players who havent even plyed 20 games this season. Essien looks shades of his former self, Romeu has not played since AVB was sacked and Malouda who actually the only player on the pitch to have a decent game. Ramires was tired after the final yet he played. Sturridge bottles out of every challenge reason he got taken off, Torres had 0 support. JT forgot his boots, Ivanovic lost his cool, Paulo is to old and looked slow, Bertrand had an ok game but lacks positioning. Then you have the keeper, who every game he plays for Chelsea makes 1 horrible mistake which he made when it looked like we might come back into the game.



Alright , what are they doing in your team then ? If you cant play them whats their purpose ?If they are so bad playing them means throwing games away why not play some young kids get some good experience in who knows its better than knowing the ones as you say suck ?

No, he has faith in his players and they are paid and expected to perform. And they were sleeping. Fans and even neutrals will forgive you if you lose. No one minds a team that loses if it actually plays well. They didnt play well, there have been to many games where these teams just dont look like they are there to play.

They got 2-0ed by Newcastle but they didnt play badly. They had some deficiencies maybe but not for want of trying. No player on elite club worth his salt should make excuses for a performance like that. And this is not just Chelsea.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 08 2012 21:22 GMT
#8154
Thats excatly every Chelsea fans point Rebs..what the fuck are players like Essien Paulo Turnbull Malouda doing in the team, they are at the point of not getting any better in their career's just worst, why are they at this football club, the reason they are is because of AVB. They were on his side thus they did not get kicked out in January. Alex and Anelka were against AVB and they went in January, thats the only reason. Summer whoever our manager is (aslong as he has a brain and is experienced) will be getting rid of all of the above and starting a fresh. We have youngsters who look hungry waiting in the wings but they dont get played, they have never been played at Chelsea its very frustrating as a fan watching the likes of Piazon Feruz Bamford Chabolah performing week in week out for Reserves/Youth and not getting a sniff in the first time. The amount of games Bertrand got this season is the only plus side to the youngsters for me, he looks a good replacement for Ash and he looks like he has been watching him and i hope Ash is passing on some knowledge to him because he has pace to get up and down the pitch and a nice cross, just needs work bit more on his defensive side of the game. But you don't mind that with kids because there not supposed to come in and be world class, supposidly to build themselves in. Very frustrating when you get beat the way you do and its just the same washed up old duds who cost you the game xD
Much rather seen Chelsea youth team get put out and lose 6-0 xD
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
May 08 2012 21:43 GMT
#8155
personally I am pleased we didn't have any of the likes of lamps cole or mata or drog on today. If they got injured it would be horrific...in games which really don't matter 1/100th as much as the CL final!
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 21:49:58
May 08 2012 21:48 GMT
#8156
On May 09 2012 06:08 Rebs wrote:
haha please. These are pathetic excuses. I dont even think the clubs managers themselves would make some of those excuses with a straight face.


Yeah well my point is there are often mitigating circumstances that obviously and objectively modify the chance to win. We do use the phrase 'squad at 100%' for a reason. I don't even see why you are annoyed...why should Chelsea fans be up in a huff about losing one shitty game to liverpool when it doesn't matter and we put out players like ferreira and turnbull? To be honest I am extremely glad we won't go to Europa shitty league, wasting time and energy and getting injuries in the group stages. Almost every English team that goes to Europa suffers in the prem and three positions in the prem are worth pretty much all the money you will get from Europa I believe...(correct me if wrong)

I would be fine with sending the exact same team out next match and losing 4-1 again...
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
May 08 2012 21:56 GMT
#8157
On May 09 2012 06:48 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2012 06:08 Rebs wrote:
haha please. These are pathetic excuses. I dont even think the clubs managers themselves would make some of those excuses with a straight face.


Yeah well my point is there are often mitigating circumstances that obviously and objectively modify the chance to win. We do use the phrase 'squad at 100%' for a reason. I don't even see why you are annoyed...why should Chelsea fans be up in a huff about losing one shitty game to liverpool when it doesn't matter and we put out players like ferreira and turnbull? To be honest I am extremely glad we won't go to Europa shitty league, wasting time and energy and getting injuries in the group stages. Almost every English team that goes to Europa suffers in the prem and three positions in the prem are worth pretty much all the money you will get from Europa I believe...(correct me if wrong)

I would be fine with sending the exact same team out next match and losing 4-1 again...


On May 09 2012 06:08 Rebs wrote:
There will be instances where you can be hard done by and you might be off form, sure or even the other team may well play good to but bad performances are there for all to see and you can tell pretty easily when they arent at the races, theres just no excuse sorry.


Yawwnnnn...

No one said anything about winning or losing.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
May 08 2012 22:12 GMT
#8158
On May 09 2012 05:57 Rebs wrote:
If your club doesnt show up and plays poorly put your hand up and say yea no excuse. Instead you get "oh just reserves lolol, they dont care".


I'm just responding to this...
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 22:42:30
May 08 2012 22:39 GMT
#8159
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 03:27:24
May 09 2012 03:20 GMT
#8160
While I agree with you Sated this would be more believable if the same people not using European performance as a metric now and using things like I dont know uhh. viewership figures or even styles of play they enjoy hand changed their tunes as soon as it turned out European performance didnt favor them. Because thats what they started out with. I remember a lengthy analysis of English performance in Europe over the past decade as evidence the last time this same argument went down.

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Infact I can even point out a certain someone who earlier in the year claimed that they loved crisp passing football and then proceeded to bash Barcelona's playstyle as boring because all of a sudden when it was being done to their team. It wasnt so fun anymore. This forum has a lovely search function and it takes 2-3 minutes to use. But that has nothing to do with this. I have to get my cheapshots in. Im like that sorry.


That having been said Ill just leave it as a warning rather than put people on the spot. I can pretty easily pull some Jon Stewart shit and start linking them if anyone would like but thats a can of worms best left open for another day.

Its the lack of consistency that annoys me. People seem to have really short memories about what they say and that makes it difficult to take them seriously because clearly the metrics they prefer are changing to the nature of their position. Not vice versa. You could after all be consistent in what you "like" right ?

Which leads to people with actually sense in this thread either remaking the same reasonable claims they have been all year or others just getting driven away because they cant stand it anymore.
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