EPT2011-2012 football (soccer) thread - Page 403
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DaMuffinman
Germany1705 Posts
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paschl
Germany666 Posts
On May 08 2012 00:59 SACtheXchng wrote: That may or may not be true. He's not one of the two most dangerous German strikers of 2012 though. Because Magath didnt give him the chance. He barely used Helmes. In 16 games Helmes scored 12 times, quota wise that puts him just behind Huntelaar and Gomez. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18524 Posts
On May 08 2012 00:59 SACtheXchng wrote: That may or may not be true. He's not one of the two most dangerous German strikers of 2012 though. Have you even watched BuLi games other than Bayern ones? Cause stats-wise, threatening-wise, defensive-wise Helmes was better than Gomez in 2012. And Helmes has done it with a team way inferior to Bayern. Now tell me if Gomez is so great, how has he scored less than Helmes with the best German club including a lineup of assist monster of Kroos, Ribery, Schweinsteiger? Both Kiessling and Helmes in worse clubs have done better than Gomez in 2012. | ||
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Manni Bender
Germany5 Posts
götze won't start either, he was currently injured, podolski will start on the left like always and müller / reus on the right. HAHAHA you are so stupid, its not even funny. Ghettolski! HAHAHA User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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paschl
Germany666 Posts
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rapture
Germany645 Posts
On May 08 2012 00:49 SACtheXchng wrote: LOL, are you serious? They are good, no question about that, but "The two most dangerous German strikers of 2012"? I mean, REALLY??? well stats wise they are. they both scored 12 goals in 2012 i believe. cacau scored 4 goals and got substituted most of the time. schwabenbonus indeed. for offence we will probably see podolski on the left. he always played good in the past years so i don't believe löw will have a change. maybe schürrle if he shows a worldclass performance in the training camp, but i seriously doubt that. so left wing podolski with schürrle as sub. in the middle we will see özil 100%. not much to discuss here imo. götze, reus or kroos could play same positions but özil just too damn good. right wing we have müller (he had a quite bad season, but i have hope he will get back in shape), götze and reus (both not their main positions tho). i think we tryed götze right wing once in qualifikation but he didnt harmonize that good with the team. so quite sure it's gonna be müller. striker gonna be gomez imo, but klose has good chance although he was injured. | ||
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Sgany
United Kingdom790 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On May 08 2012 02:02 Sgany wrote: Question for the German people, do you think Klose will play in the next World Cup and attempt to break Ronaldo's record? He wont get picked. To many upcoming Germans and he will be to old. This is for me his last international even barring some miracle. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
On May 08 2012 00:57 paschl wrote: Helmes is certainly better than Cacau... its Cacaus schwaben-bonus that gets him in. Helmes is probably the most underrated striker of Germany. Sadly he's been mistreated by many managers . | ||
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Copymizer
Denmark2095 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Valenius
United Kingdom1266 Posts
On May 08 2012 05:11 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: So the Blackburn manager has to have a bodyguard at all times due to fans being pissed at him? Amazing. I have no sympathy with Blackburn if (when) they go down. Second to last game of the season, needing to win.. And all the fans can do is chant about sacking the managers/owners. At least the chicken on the pitch was funny. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Sphaero
Germany1697 Posts
On May 08 2012 02:23 Rebs wrote: He wont get picked. To many upcoming Germans and he will be to old. This is for me his last international even barring some miracle. Name me those upcoming German strikers please. The ones with potential I can think of are Schieber from Stuttgart and Lassoga from Berlin. There is not much coming up in the next two years on the striker position. If Klose can stay healthy and on the level he plays at Lazio he will be part of the national team 2014. Hell, I think he will even start. Because even though Gomez shoots more goals than him he has one big advantage over him, except huge experience. Klose also scores, when it matters the most. With Gomez I often get the feeling that he gets cold feet, if he desperately needs to deliver. You could see it against Madrid in the CL again, where he couldn´t net from six meters away. So unless Klose injures himself or Löw (if he still is coach at that time) tries a different approach and puts Podolski or Reus in front, he has good chances to attack Ronaldos record. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
Pretty sure Gomez scored the winner against RM in the first leg. Im sure he gets cold feet and misses alot so I dont rate him but he certainly contributed there. Theyre arent many strikers to go around fair enough but if your not phasing him out and trying more efficient methods your doing your own team a disservice. That is ofcourse unless he scores goals in bunches. Again unlikely. Yes Klose is an absolute beast for Germany and hes been really good at Lazio because hes the kind of player that ages well. He can go for as many records as he wants. Im sure Germans would get horny at the thought. Itd be great for him. But 2 years is a long time once your past 30. He may well have enough steam but I dont think hell provide enough reasons to get picked two years from now. Unless your reason is we dont have any strikers might aswell give him a go at the record. Which is a very poor one in my opinion. Just my 2 cents, Id certainly be impressed and applaud if he managed it. | ||
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Surrealistic
311 Posts
Here's Hollands provisional team.. Maarten Stekelenburg (Roma), Tim Krul (Newcastle United), Michel Vorm (Swansea City), Erwin Mulder (Feyenoord), Jasper Cillissen (Ajax); Vurnon Anita (Ajax), Khalid Boulahrouz (VfB Stuttgart), Wilfred Bouma (PSV), Urby Emanuelson (Milan), John Heitinga (Everton), Hedwiges Maduro (Valencia) Joris Mathijsen (Malaga), Erik Pieters (PSV), Nick Viergever (AZ), Ron Vlaar (Feyenoord), Stefan de Vrij (Feyenoord), Gregory van der Wiel (Ajax), Jetro Willems (PSV); Ibrahim Afellay (Barcelona), Mark van Bommel (Milan), Nigel de Jong (Manchester City), Adam Maher (AZ), Stijn Schaars (Sporting), Wesley Sneijder (Internazionale), Kevin Strootman (PSV), Rafael van der Vaart (Tottenham Hotspur), Georginio Wijnaldum (PSV); Klaas-Jan Huntelaar (Schalke), Ola John, Luuk de Jong (both Twente), Siem de Jong (Ajax), Dirk Kuyt (Liverpool), Jeremain Lens (PSV), Luciano Narsingh (Heerenveen), Robin van Persie (Arsenal), Arjen Robben (Bayern Munich). Don't really know alot of the Eredivise based players. One glaring admission is Van Wolfswinkel, seemed quite impressive in the Europa League, injured? | ||
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