• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:46
CEST 05:46
KST 12:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
GSTL Returns in 2026!13Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-611
StarCraft 2
General
GSTL Returns in 2026! SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Protoss AoE skill expression Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 538 Media Blackout The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion StarCraft 64 is coming to Philly at SC4ALL II ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5325 users

2011-2012 football (soccer) thread - Page 3

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 487 488 489 Next
Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
August 03 2011 22:23 GMT
#41
City have a bit of a crappy manager though. He isn't man enough to take it to the other team in the big games and is more satisfied grinding a draw against them.

gonna go Chelsea > City > Man U cause I'm a chelsea fan. Also Real Madrid for la liga, just for the leagues sake of not getting stale. Inter finally not winning Seria A can only do the league good
Don't count your apples before they've... grown
thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
August 03 2011 22:24 GMT
#42
On August 04 2011 07:15 UdderChaos wrote:
Personally i see it as a toss up between City, Manu and Chelsea this season. The questions are: Can city's big spendings actually make a difference and gel, because they have a VERY strong team on paper now. Can man u's younger players step up this season?, with david de gea, the twins and cleverly and Anderson in midfield (hopefully they will sign sneijderr). Also will thier midfeild be good enough? And lastly will villa boas get Chelsea playing to their former glory? Personally i think united will pip it, with city very close behind, and look something like this:
Man u
City
Chelsea
Tottenham
Arsenal
liverpool

I think if arsenal loose narsi and fab, they will probs end up below spurs, otherwise 4th is probally theirs. As for liverpool, I think they are massively over-ratted, only Suarez and pepe are their only world class players, Gerrard is past it. And torres was better than Suarez is now and Gerrard was playing better back then and he couldn't carry the team. Also King Kenny is also over-ratted insanely as a manager, he's been out of the game for so many years, and his only PL win was when Cantona was banned. Just look at their pre-season, i think anyone who thinks they are going to finish top 4, let alone higher, is either a Liverpool fan or someone who has got it very wrong imho.

Preseason doesn't have too much meaning. Teams have done way worse and gone on to win the league.

But I agree that so far Liverpool seems a bit out of their depth. The telling story will be when they face Valencia in 10 days or so.
Valencia has been doing great in preseason winning 4 of their 5 matches.
akaname
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom599 Posts
August 03 2011 22:25 GMT
#43
On August 02 2011 03:32 rea1ity wrote:
Arsenal will win the league. Heard it here first.


i went to see them play boca juniors, they just did what they're renowned for these days. they went ahead, starting messing around and being arrogant, and then their opposition came back from 2-0 down. they have serious attitude issues to sort if they're going to win...
There can be only none
n00b3rt
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria890 Posts
August 03 2011 22:32 GMT
#44
Is anyone else worried that Newcastle is gonna have a terrible season, and even more worrying ones to come if the owner doesn't get hit by a meteorite? I'm not sure I want to follow the Geordy downfall, it's gonna be depressing :/
Yeah, whatever
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
August 03 2011 22:39 GMT
#45
On August 04 2011 07:15 UdderChaos wrote:
. Also King Kenny is also over-ratted insanely as a manager, he's been out of the game for so many years, and his only PL win was when Cantona was banned. Just look at their pre-season, i think anyone who thinks they are going to finish top 4, let alone higher, is either a Liverpool fan or someone who has got it very wrong imho.


I am a Liverpool fan yes, but stats don't lie. Since Kenny joined Liverpool in January, the only team to get more points than 'pool were Man United. The thing is his passion and love for the club has put a smile on players and fans faces and the lift in morale was a huge influence in the season being somewhat decent. Also, Liverpool aren't in Europe next season, meaning less games. I think a little bit of tweaking to the squad and a top 4 finish isn't at all out of the question.
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
rea1ity
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom385 Posts
August 03 2011 22:50 GMT
#46
Anyone who thinks Liverpool will win the league is very deluded. No manager (no matter how good) can take a team from 6th place to win the league in this amount of time...
그 스타 크래프트의 꿈, 그 꿈 생활
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
August 04 2011 00:16 GMT
#47
On August 04 2011 07:32 n00b3rt wrote:
Is anyone else worried that Newcastle is gonna have a terrible season, and even more worrying ones to come if the owner doesn't get hit by a meteorite? I'm not sure I want to follow the Geordy downfall, it's gonna be depressing :/

Yeah - whats going on with Newcastle this preseason? Getting rid of Nolan and Barton look like really really poor choices given that no replacements have come on (nor have any come for Carroll). I've also heard that Enrique might be leaving as well which would really be bad for the club. I don't know what the upper club management is doing, and it looks like the team will struggle next season.

As per Liverpool, I think their chances of getting into the top 4 are quite slim. Besides Suarez and Reina, they are lacking in top quality players (no matter how many midfielders they sign). Even during the season when they had Alonso, Mascherano, and Arbeloa and played brilliantly that season, they couldn't win the title. I definitely do not think that Henderson, Downing, and Adam are capable of pushing the club too far above where it was last season.
Airship
Profile Joined August 2010
United States465 Posts
August 04 2011 00:28 GMT
#48
I think Liverpool will be top 4. They improved very rapidly towards the end of last season, losing Fernando Sandbag and bringing in Suarez. Caroll will probably prove a bit of a dud, but if they can keep Gerrard fit I think they'll be very competitive. I can't see Arsenal or Spurs finishing in the top 4 this season.
Timurid
Profile Joined April 2011
Guyana (French)656 Posts
August 04 2011 02:33 GMT
#49
Arsenal is going to finish in the top 3 this season. I just dont see Liverpoo, Chelsea, and spurs (yuck) finishing in the top 3. Man city or Arsenal for top spot and Man utd for third. Thats if they dont sign sneijder. If they do then its 3 horse race. Hopefully Arsenal signs Cahill and Mata then i will be a happy camper! Anyway, Who's enjoying Barca's youth sucking it up against chivas?
epik640x
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 03:01:44
August 04 2011 02:59 GMT
#50
On August 04 2011 09:28 Airship wrote:
I think Liverpool will be top 4. They improved very rapidly towards the end of last season, losing Fernando Sandbag and bringing in Suarez. Caroll will probably prove a bit of a dud, but if they can keep Gerrard fit I think they'll be very competitive. I can't see Arsenal or Spurs finishing in the top 4 this season.


I think Sunderland will be top 4 before Liverpool this season.

1. United
2. Chelsea
3. Arsenal
4. Sunderland
5. City
6. Liverpool
7. Tottenham
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
August 04 2011 03:13 GMT
#51
So is someone gonna set up a fantasy league on premierleague.com this season? could be cool
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
August 04 2011 04:14 GMT
#52
On August 04 2011 12:13 Lyter wrote:
So is someone gonna set up a fantasy league on premierleague.com this season? could be cool

Not sure what the demand is for that on this website but maybe we could all join a fantasy football league somewhere else and open a teamliquid division/group.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51675 Posts
August 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#53
i think sunderland have what it takes to challenge the top 6 this season.
Commentator
krazymunky
Profile Joined June 2008
United States727 Posts
August 04 2011 06:25 GMT
#54
lol Chivas beats Barca 4-1 and Pep says hes not surprised

great 2nd chivas goal

[image loading]
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
August 04 2011 12:32 GMT
#55
On August 04 2011 11:33 Timurid wrote:
Arsenal is going to finish in the top 3 this season. I just dont see Liverpoo, Chelsea, and spurs (yuck) finishing in the top 3. Man city or Arsenal for top spot and Man utd for third. Thats if they dont sign sneijder. If they do then its 3 horse race. Hopefully Arsenal signs Cahill and Mata then i will be a happy camper! Anyway, Who's enjoying Barca's youth sucking it up against chivas?


Whoa there now. Chelsea's squad is better than Arsenals so I dunno what you are basing this on.
Don't count your apples before they've... grown
thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
August 04 2011 14:47 GMT
#56
In EPL:
1. Man Utd
2. Man City
3. Chelsea
4. Arsenal
5. Tottenham
6. Liverpool

In La Liga:
1. RM
2. Valencia
3. Barca
4. Sevilla
5. Malaga
6. At. Madrid
King.Crimson
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania478 Posts
August 04 2011 17:05 GMT
#57
On August 04 2011 23:47 thehitman wrote:
In EPL:
1. Man Utd
2. Man City
3. Chelsea
4. Arsenal
5. Tottenham
6. Liverpool

In La Liga:
1. RM
2. Valencia
3. Barca
4. Sevilla
5. Malaga
6. At. Madrid


How much you want to bet against me that it won't end up with that top 3 in La Liga. I give you 10:1 odds.
alkow
Profile Joined December 2010
United States192 Posts
August 04 2011 17:12 GMT
#58
We should start a fantasy league for the EPL and then the winner gets HotS!
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
August 04 2011 17:25 GMT
#59
On August 04 2011 07:15 UdderChaos wrote:

As for liverpool, I think they are massively over-ratted, only Suarez and pepe are their only world class players, Gerrard is past it. And torres was better than Suarez is now and Gerrard was playing better back then and he couldn't carry the team. Also King Kenny is also over-ratted insanely as a manager, he's been out of the game for so many years, and his only PL win was when Cantona was banned. Just look at their pre-season, i think anyone who thinks they are going to finish top 4, let alone higher, is either a Liverpool fan or someone who has got it very wrong imho.


Torres being better than Suarez?Suarez is looking insanely good, MVP and winner of Copa America and he was the best player on the pitch every game he played last season. It took Torres 900+ minutes to even score for Chelsea.

And King Kenny brings so much to the team outside of the tactical decisions and he knows the club and the academy inside out. They still need a couple more reinforcements to get top 4 though.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
August 04 2011 17:33 GMT
#60
On August 05 2011 02:25 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 07:15 UdderChaos wrote:

As for liverpool, I think they are massively over-ratted, only Suarez and pepe are their only world class players, Gerrard is past it. And torres was better than Suarez is now and Gerrard was playing better back then and he couldn't carry the team. Also King Kenny is also over-ratted insanely as a manager, he's been out of the game for so many years, and his only PL win was when Cantona was banned. Just look at their pre-season, i think anyone who thinks they are going to finish top 4, let alone higher, is either a Liverpool fan or someone who has got it very wrong imho.


Torres being better than Suarez?Suarez is looking insanely good, MVP and winner of Copa America and he was the best player on the pitch every game he played last season. It took Torres 900+ minutes to even score for Chelsea.

And King Kenny brings so much to the team outside of the tactical decisions and he knows the club and the academy inside out. They still need a couple more reinforcements to get top 4 though.

No no, his point was that Torres at his prime was equivalent if not better than how Suarez is playing at the moment. Plus Gerrard can't play as well at the moment and they have lost their top class players in Alonso, Mascherano, and Arbeloa which means that they will struggle. Charlie Adam / Raul Mereleles / Lucas / Aquilani / Henderson / whoever else can't meet the quality of those players meaning that Liverpool have lost much of their luster. Of course, other teams have diminished in quality, but not as drastically.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 487 488 489 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
SEL Ladder Invitational
CranKy Ducklings109
LiquipediaDiscussion
OSC
20:00
Mid Season Playoffs
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft427
RuFF_SC2 169
ProTech90
FoxeR 27
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3920
GuemChi 2279
Leta 113
Noble 91
Dota 2
The International32012
Gorgc2426
singsing833
Fuzer 126
NeuroSwarm82
Counter-Strike
summit1g7942
minikerr57
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox911
C9.Mang0191
Mew2King35
Other Games
ViBE163
Maynarde152
ROOTCatZ34
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH272
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2961
League of Legends
• Rush898
• Stunt843
Upcoming Events
Escore
6h 15m
PiG Sty Festival
8h 15m
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
ShoWTimE vs Zoun
Big Brain Bouts
12h 15m
Nicoract vs Neeb
TriGGeR vs ShoWTimE
CranKy Ducklings
1d 6h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 8h
herO vs Krystianer
Solar vs Cure
IPSL
1d 12h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Maru vs Shameless
Reynor vs TriGGeR
IPSL
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The Patches Monday
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-13
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W7
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
META DYMY #4
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.