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Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
August 03 2011 22:23 GMT
#41
City have a bit of a crappy manager though. He isn't man enough to take it to the other team in the big games and is more satisfied grinding a draw against them.

gonna go Chelsea > City > Man U cause I'm a chelsea fan. Also Real Madrid for la liga, just for the leagues sake of not getting stale. Inter finally not winning Seria A can only do the league good
Don't count your apples before they've... grown
thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
August 03 2011 22:24 GMT
#42
On August 04 2011 07:15 UdderChaos wrote:
Personally i see it as a toss up between City, Manu and Chelsea this season. The questions are: Can city's big spendings actually make a difference and gel, because they have a VERY strong team on paper now. Can man u's younger players step up this season?, with david de gea, the twins and cleverly and Anderson in midfield (hopefully they will sign sneijderr). Also will thier midfeild be good enough? And lastly will villa boas get Chelsea playing to their former glory? Personally i think united will pip it, with city very close behind, and look something like this:
Man u
City
Chelsea
Tottenham
Arsenal
liverpool

I think if arsenal loose narsi and fab, they will probs end up below spurs, otherwise 4th is probally theirs. As for liverpool, I think they are massively over-ratted, only Suarez and pepe are their only world class players, Gerrard is past it. And torres was better than Suarez is now and Gerrard was playing better back then and he couldn't carry the team. Also King Kenny is also over-ratted insanely as a manager, he's been out of the game for so many years, and his only PL win was when Cantona was banned. Just look at their pre-season, i think anyone who thinks they are going to finish top 4, let alone higher, is either a Liverpool fan or someone who has got it very wrong imho.

Preseason doesn't have too much meaning. Teams have done way worse and gone on to win the league.

But I agree that so far Liverpool seems a bit out of their depth. The telling story will be when they face Valencia in 10 days or so.
Valencia has been doing great in preseason winning 4 of their 5 matches.
akaname
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom599 Posts
August 03 2011 22:25 GMT
#43
On August 02 2011 03:32 rea1ity wrote:
Arsenal will win the league. Heard it here first.


i went to see them play boca juniors, they just did what they're renowned for these days. they went ahead, starting messing around and being arrogant, and then their opposition came back from 2-0 down. they have serious attitude issues to sort if they're going to win...
There can be only none
n00b3rt
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria890 Posts
August 03 2011 22:32 GMT
#44
Is anyone else worried that Newcastle is gonna have a terrible season, and even more worrying ones to come if the owner doesn't get hit by a meteorite? I'm not sure I want to follow the Geordy downfall, it's gonna be depressing :/
Yeah, whatever
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
August 03 2011 22:39 GMT
#45
On August 04 2011 07:15 UdderChaos wrote:
. Also King Kenny is also over-ratted insanely as a manager, he's been out of the game for so many years, and his only PL win was when Cantona was banned. Just look at their pre-season, i think anyone who thinks they are going to finish top 4, let alone higher, is either a Liverpool fan or someone who has got it very wrong imho.


I am a Liverpool fan yes, but stats don't lie. Since Kenny joined Liverpool in January, the only team to get more points than 'pool were Man United. The thing is his passion and love for the club has put a smile on players and fans faces and the lift in morale was a huge influence in the season being somewhat decent. Also, Liverpool aren't in Europe next season, meaning less games. I think a little bit of tweaking to the squad and a top 4 finish isn't at all out of the question.
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rea1ity
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom385 Posts
August 03 2011 22:50 GMT
#46
Anyone who thinks Liverpool will win the league is very deluded. No manager (no matter how good) can take a team from 6th place to win the league in this amount of time...
그 스타 크래프트의 꿈, 그 꿈 생활
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
August 04 2011 00:16 GMT
#47
On August 04 2011 07:32 n00b3rt wrote:
Is anyone else worried that Newcastle is gonna have a terrible season, and even more worrying ones to come if the owner doesn't get hit by a meteorite? I'm not sure I want to follow the Geordy downfall, it's gonna be depressing :/

Yeah - whats going on with Newcastle this preseason? Getting rid of Nolan and Barton look like really really poor choices given that no replacements have come on (nor have any come for Carroll). I've also heard that Enrique might be leaving as well which would really be bad for the club. I don't know what the upper club management is doing, and it looks like the team will struggle next season.

As per Liverpool, I think their chances of getting into the top 4 are quite slim. Besides Suarez and Reina, they are lacking in top quality players (no matter how many midfielders they sign). Even during the season when they had Alonso, Mascherano, and Arbeloa and played brilliantly that season, they couldn't win the title. I definitely do not think that Henderson, Downing, and Adam are capable of pushing the club too far above where it was last season.
Airship
Profile Joined August 2010
United States465 Posts
August 04 2011 00:28 GMT
#48
I think Liverpool will be top 4. They improved very rapidly towards the end of last season, losing Fernando Sandbag and bringing in Suarez. Caroll will probably prove a bit of a dud, but if they can keep Gerrard fit I think they'll be very competitive. I can't see Arsenal or Spurs finishing in the top 4 this season.
Timurid
Profile Joined April 2011
Guyana (French)656 Posts
August 04 2011 02:33 GMT
#49
Arsenal is going to finish in the top 3 this season. I just dont see Liverpoo, Chelsea, and spurs (yuck) finishing in the top 3. Man city or Arsenal for top spot and Man utd for third. Thats if they dont sign sneijder. If they do then its 3 horse race. Hopefully Arsenal signs Cahill and Mata then i will be a happy camper! Anyway, Who's enjoying Barca's youth sucking it up against chivas?
epik640x
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1134 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 03:01:44
August 04 2011 02:59 GMT
#50
On August 04 2011 09:28 Airship wrote:
I think Liverpool will be top 4. They improved very rapidly towards the end of last season, losing Fernando Sandbag and bringing in Suarez. Caroll will probably prove a bit of a dud, but if they can keep Gerrard fit I think they'll be very competitive. I can't see Arsenal or Spurs finishing in the top 4 this season.


I think Sunderland will be top 4 before Liverpool this season.

1. United
2. Chelsea
3. Arsenal
4. Sunderland
5. City
6. Liverpool
7. Tottenham
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
August 04 2011 03:13 GMT
#51
So is someone gonna set up a fantasy league on premierleague.com this season? could be cool
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
August 04 2011 04:14 GMT
#52
On August 04 2011 12:13 Lyter wrote:
So is someone gonna set up a fantasy league on premierleague.com this season? could be cool

Not sure what the demand is for that on this website but maybe we could all join a fantasy football league somewhere else and open a teamliquid division/group.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51450 Posts
August 04 2011 05:24 GMT
#53
i think sunderland have what it takes to challenge the top 6 this season.
Commentator
krazymunky
Profile Joined June 2008
United States727 Posts
August 04 2011 06:25 GMT
#54
lol Chivas beats Barca 4-1 and Pep says hes not surprised

great 2nd chivas goal

[image loading]
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
August 04 2011 12:32 GMT
#55
On August 04 2011 11:33 Timurid wrote:
Arsenal is going to finish in the top 3 this season. I just dont see Liverpoo, Chelsea, and spurs (yuck) finishing in the top 3. Man city or Arsenal for top spot and Man utd for third. Thats if they dont sign sneijder. If they do then its 3 horse race. Hopefully Arsenal signs Cahill and Mata then i will be a happy camper! Anyway, Who's enjoying Barca's youth sucking it up against chivas?


Whoa there now. Chelsea's squad is better than Arsenals so I dunno what you are basing this on.
Don't count your apples before they've... grown
thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
August 04 2011 14:47 GMT
#56
In EPL:
1. Man Utd
2. Man City
3. Chelsea
4. Arsenal
5. Tottenham
6. Liverpool

In La Liga:
1. RM
2. Valencia
3. Barca
4. Sevilla
5. Malaga
6. At. Madrid
King.Crimson
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania478 Posts
August 04 2011 17:05 GMT
#57
On August 04 2011 23:47 thehitman wrote:
In EPL:
1. Man Utd
2. Man City
3. Chelsea
4. Arsenal
5. Tottenham
6. Liverpool

In La Liga:
1. RM
2. Valencia
3. Barca
4. Sevilla
5. Malaga
6. At. Madrid


How much you want to bet against me that it won't end up with that top 3 in La Liga. I give you 10:1 odds.
alkow
Profile Joined December 2010
United States192 Posts
August 04 2011 17:12 GMT
#58
We should start a fantasy league for the EPL and then the winner gets HotS!
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
August 04 2011 17:25 GMT
#59
On August 04 2011 07:15 UdderChaos wrote:

As for liverpool, I think they are massively over-ratted, only Suarez and pepe are their only world class players, Gerrard is past it. And torres was better than Suarez is now and Gerrard was playing better back then and he couldn't carry the team. Also King Kenny is also over-ratted insanely as a manager, he's been out of the game for so many years, and his only PL win was when Cantona was banned. Just look at their pre-season, i think anyone who thinks they are going to finish top 4, let alone higher, is either a Liverpool fan or someone who has got it very wrong imho.


Torres being better than Suarez?Suarez is looking insanely good, MVP and winner of Copa America and he was the best player on the pitch every game he played last season. It took Torres 900+ minutes to even score for Chelsea.

And King Kenny brings so much to the team outside of the tactical decisions and he knows the club and the academy inside out. They still need a couple more reinforcements to get top 4 though.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
August 04 2011 17:33 GMT
#60
On August 05 2011 02:25 Kevan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 07:15 UdderChaos wrote:

As for liverpool, I think they are massively over-ratted, only Suarez and pepe are their only world class players, Gerrard is past it. And torres was better than Suarez is now and Gerrard was playing better back then and he couldn't carry the team. Also King Kenny is also over-ratted insanely as a manager, he's been out of the game for so many years, and his only PL win was when Cantona was banned. Just look at their pre-season, i think anyone who thinks they are going to finish top 4, let alone higher, is either a Liverpool fan or someone who has got it very wrong imho.


Torres being better than Suarez?Suarez is looking insanely good, MVP and winner of Copa America and he was the best player on the pitch every game he played last season. It took Torres 900+ minutes to even score for Chelsea.

And King Kenny brings so much to the team outside of the tactical decisions and he knows the club and the academy inside out. They still need a couple more reinforcements to get top 4 though.

No no, his point was that Torres at his prime was equivalent if not better than how Suarez is playing at the moment. Plus Gerrard can't play as well at the moment and they have lost their top class players in Alonso, Mascherano, and Arbeloa which means that they will struggle. Charlie Adam / Raul Mereleles / Lucas / Aquilani / Henderson / whoever else can't meet the quality of those players meaning that Liverpool have lost much of their luster. Of course, other teams have diminished in quality, but not as drastically.
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