EPT2011-2012 football (soccer) thread - Page 488
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On June 17 2012 08:50 Sated wrote: Rangers and Celtic have some of the greatest histories in the world? Now you're just trolling. Then again, whether or not one finds the history of a club interesting is completely subjective - I personally find clubs that have gone through great tragedies and multiple relegations/promotions etc. more interesting than clubs who've never had any valid competition since their national league began and have never truly had their ideals challenged. As I say, this is completely subjective And I don't know why you're talking about national sides. I never mentioned them and I certainly never said that the English national team were good, nor would I even begin to make that argument because we haven't been good for a long time. Consistently inconsistent is all England are. Well the pedestal point wasnt about the National team it was about the league as a whole. I actually think the national team is pretty good, and Ive said it. Sure its a top 2 league but its not as far ahead as people are making out to be. And thats where international tournaments come in. Lots of players who dont play in the top leagues and do really well because theres a wealth of talent all over the world and theres alot of good teams around. I didnt say national team now did I.. Again with the subjectivity. Alright dont care anymore. On June 17 2012 08:39 FireBlast! wrote: I dont even know what you guys are all arguing about. Just cool off and watch the Euros. I understand if you want to feel passionately for a team you support, but NO ONE has enough knowledge on politics/economics/history of all the clubs and big leagues in Europe to be presenting some of the arguments I've read in the past three pages. Particularly Rebs, stop being such a douchebag in your posts. Sorry for sticking a pin in the arrogance. Guess that counts for douchebaggery. And actually people do, its called research and I dont mean Wikipedia. Hell theres even books on it. Dismissing arguements on this sort of logic alone is pretty silly. "You cant know because no one knows". Its can at times be barebones but you can find out enough to form educated opinions. Again Ill have you note the England comment was not supposed to be taken seriously and most people know that. + Show Spoiler + As for the Euro's I know Im enjoying them more than you are and certainly will do when Ukraine knocks you out tomorow (yeah +1 for douchebaggery) | ||
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United States41117 Posts
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
8:45 and look when he stands up the name and number on his shirt, couldn't stop laughing. Also from the Messi friends vs Mexico stars game from yesterday ![[image loading]](http://imgon.net/di-Y2FX.gif) | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
In case someone doesn't get it, the guy in the green shirt (Valdés in the first half, some other goalkeeper on the second) plays for the team in possesion of the ball, so he always attacks  | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
Prem Fixtures Released: Ties to be played August 18th Man Cit vs Southampton Everton vs Man Utd Wigan vs Chelsea Arsenal vs Sunderland Totenham vs Newcastle Reading vs Stoke WBA vs Liverpool Swansea vs QPR Norwich vs Fulham West Ham vs Aston Villa Links to Full Fixture list's Chelsea FC Fixtures 12/13 Man Utd FC Fixtures 12/13 Arsenal FC Fixtures 12/13 Man City FC Fixtures 12/13 Liverpool FC Fixtures 12/13 | ||
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United States1718 Posts
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Stimp
South Africa780 Posts
Uefa. Nuff said. | ||
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Chile2230 Posts
On June 16 2012 06:03 Stimp wrote: Just want to point out that Chelsea has thrived and won nearly everything under a core of english players with Ashley Cole, Terry and Lampard. Terry and Lampard being the spine of the team. LOL? Meireles, Drogba, David Luiz, Cech, Ivanovic, Bosingwa, Malouda, mata? | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
Also Cole just got there? | ||
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Chile2230 Posts
On June 18 2012 23:41 Sated wrote: It's a well known fact that Everton get better the longer the season goes on. Ergo, playing them on the first day can only be a good thing :D Luiz is trash. Bosingwa is trash. Malouda is trash. Mata just got there. Meireles just got there... ... but I agree that it isn't a core of English players. You've just picked the wrong examples. Luiz is trash? mata is trash? omg... do you watch football with your feets? | ||
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Stimp
South Africa780 Posts
Terry and Lampard have been there since the ranieri days, and have been the spine of the team for years, backed up by Cech and Drogba. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
Everyone forgets old Paulo! But he is a Chelsea legend too, mr consistant  i won't forget him, a nice man too never a foot wrong on or off the field. Drogba spent 8 great seasons with Chelsea with the core, arriving with Cech and Paulo, fantastic assist he was as everyone knows. Cech, is the greatest keeper in the world, on his day. He still hasn't quite recovered from his head injury but he is still keeping Chelsea in games they should of lost (take this season as prime example). Then you have Lampard who arrived in Raneari's first season in 2001 and was a steal too! He has become the greatest goal scoring midfielder to grace the premiership to date with over 150 goals! Then you have JT, Mr Chelsea, 14 seasons at the club dating back to playing alongside current managers across the world in DiMatteo Zola Pretrescu Poyet Hughes Clarke and many more who might be in lower league jobs, he started his career in a fantastic time at Chelsea when it had real good pro's running its ranks, the reason JT is the man he is today imo. Those are the core of Chelsea. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
Sure Cole came later but his impact has been more than sayyy a Paulo Ferreira.. whos been around since the start of Mou no one thinks hes a core player.(nevermind seems like people do) Mata, David Luiz, Mereiles are not core players, Maybe later. Not now. | ||
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Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On June 19 2012 00:26 Pandemona wrote: You can't say Paulo wasn't core member of the squad though, he played under Mourinho won 2 championships carling cup x2 and FA cup under mourinho before Jose came in to replace him, which didn't happen for a long time as Jose got injured for a whole season and then another 6months after that. Paulo skippers the team in Carling Cup games and FA Cup ties sometimes too. His brain is the reason he is a core player now, helping Portugese based players settle into the team in the likes of Bosingwa when he came Luiz Raul Ramires, and the older players we had back a few years Maniche Quaresma Deco, all helped and coached into by Paulo. He is a core member of the squad and as far as i am aware he is still contracted by the club and hasn't been released yet. Well yeah if your talking about intangibles sure, thats something I wouldnt know but hes got fewer first team appearances and probably even fewer starts, than people who showed up 4-5 years ago. If someone isnt playing football for you on the pitch hes not someone you can build your team around and thats what core players are, people you can build teams around and actually play the game. They are the ones who ultimately impact what happens on the pitch. | ||
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Japan5041 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
On June 19 2012 01:35 EchoZ wrote: So when is the next season's thread going to be made? I tried Check it out and lets get some feedback and post rolling in http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=346330 On June 19 2012 01:18 Rebs wrote: Well yeah if your talking about intangibles sure, thats something I wouldnt know but hes got fewer first team appearances and probably even fewer starts, than people who showed up 4-5 years ago. If someone isnt playing football for you on the pitch hes not someone you can build your team around and thats what core players are, people you can build teams around and actually play the game. They are the ones who ultimately impact what happens on the pitch. 136 appearances for Chelsea. 4 seasons worth of our starting right back easily. He is a core member of the team for the sheer time he has spent at the club. He is a Chelsea man now, spent the time here at Chelsea with and without Mourinho and i think he has shown he is a core member. He is 33 and played vs Benfica this year, and to be honest his defensive work with second to none, kept gaiten and co out of the game for a full 90minutes in the stadium of light, pretty good if u ask me Totenham in talks with Blanc Spurs are in preliminery talkes with France boss Laurent Blanc over the manager posistion at Totenham! Source | ||
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England4983 Posts
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