On January 26 2012 08:33 bObaZ wrote: How can you blame the ref for the result? The ref made 4 mistakes, Not sending Diarra off with a clear as water second yellow, not showing any yellow to Dani Alves for the 2 or 3 tackles he made, now showing pepe a yellow for the hand in the face of Fabregas, and for showing the second yellow to Ramos... All in all, it was balanced out in the end... I really don't understand how you can blame the referee.. The hands in ball from barcelona were borderline casual and really very dificult to judge from the ref point of view, and there was a BS offside from pedrito...
It was an epic game tough Real deserved to win but didn't capitalize on their oportunities
Also the 2nd half extra time was ridiculous. 3 minutes lol, should have been about 7. Then for some reason they only actually played about 1 minute of extra time due to stoppages.
On January 26 2012 08:19 haitike wrote: You understood bad to me. I said that both teams are more "extreme" since the Mourinho era. Barcerlona abuse the referee more, Madrid do more faults, etc.
What do you expect Barça to do? Just take the hits?
On January 26 2012 08:19 haitike wrote: You understood bad to me. I said that both teams are more "extreme" since the Mourinho era. Barcerlona abuse the referee more, Madrid do more faults, etc.
What do you expect Barça to do? Just take the hits?
Barca was running a 4-3-3-3. Ref really screwed over the game. 2 clear handballs and disallowed goal that was legit. Ramos 2nd yellow wasn't even a foul. What a disgrace of a game.
On January 26 2012 09:55 Timurid wrote: Barca was running a 4-3-3-3. Ref really screwed over the game. 2 clear handballs and disallowed goal that was legit. Ramos 2nd yellow wasn't even a foul. What a disgrace of a game.
Gotta give it to the refs, tough job for them in Clasicos, extreme pressure they always will get bashed when there's controversial actions.
Madrid missed a couple of sitters in the 1st half, other than that I think it was a draw was a fair result. Sad for Iniesta though, with him things could had been different. Ozil was inmense too. I hope I don't hear that excuse "we cannot play Barca toe to toe we'll get 5 in the net". Lets start playing Clasicos this time around rather than defending all game.
Great game overall. However, I don't think Barca would have lost grip in the second half so much if it wasn't for the 1-2 advantage from the first game.
So apparently the Spanish referee association (don't know the actual name) has said that the referee of last nights classico can no longer referee Real Madrid's games.
On January 26 2012 08:19 haitike wrote: You understood bad to me. I said that both teams are more "extreme" since the Mourinho era. Barcerlona abuse the referee more, Madrid do more faults, etc.
What do you expect Barça to do? Just take the hits?
Show me where Busquets got hit.
Dude Busquets is a faking POS but the rest? Also wtf Pepe? How can he pretend to get hit AGAIN after what he did to Messi, and then hit Cesc again.
Yes there were many weird calls this game, both ways, why is everyone just watching Barça ones? Lass shouldn't have finished the first leg and Pepe the game.
The first thing that should change IMO is talking to the refs, NO ONE should be allowed to talk to the ref. I play basketball here in Spain and if you as much as look at the ref in a funny way you get a technical foul, why is football so different? They only get yellow cards when insulting never when waving their hands around or making stupid faces.
I'm just tired of so much ref talk. Goes both ways.
On January 27 2012 03:05 Megatronn wrote: So apparently the Spanish referee association (don't know the actual name) has said that the referee of last nights classico can no longer referee Real Madrid's games.
On January 27 2012 03:05 Megatronn wrote: So apparently the Spanish referee association (don't know the actual name) has said that the referee of last nights classico can no longer referee Real Madrid's games.
On January 27 2012 03:05 Megatronn wrote: So apparently the Spanish referee association (don't know the actual name) has said that the referee of last nights classico can no longer referee Real Madrid's games.
I didn't get the video, what are they pointing at?
Neither do I, I wish someone who spoke spanish would explain
Busquets got a second yellow for time wasting, but didn't get sent off. Also Puyol asks the ref if he got sent off and the ref said no, which is a pretty weird question when you see only a yellow card and the ref doesn't react to it.
On January 27 2012 03:05 Megatronn wrote: So apparently the Spanish referee association (don't know the actual name) has said that the referee of last nights classico can no longer referee Real Madrid's games.
I didn't get the video, what are they pointing at?
That's his second yellow and he doesn't get sent off after Puyol says something to the ref or asks the ref something, can't really tell which with no audio.
On January 27 2012 03:05 Megatronn wrote: So apparently the Spanish referee association (don't know the actual name) has said that the referee of last nights classico can no longer referee Real Madrid's games.
I'll explain it better.Typical example of ref's guilt decision. Busquets was gonna get substituted and was walking out slowly, then the ref came and gave him a second yellow as he was walking out for time wasting ( an extremely harsh punishment if you ask me).. The Villareal bench was asking for a red card, Puyol said he wasn't carded to them. He asked the ref and he (imo realized that Busquets had a yellow already and tracked back on his last card) he said no. Thats what happened. Either way the link I cited above says he will not ref Madrid games because of his mistakes yesterday not because of this, funny thing Madrid press thought he did a "terrific" job in the Supercup.
EPT
Real deserved to win but didn't capitalize on their oportunities 
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