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pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
August 09 2013 05:39 GMT
#6701
When fakesteve wins canada cup
Moderatorpachi fanclub http://goto.tl/6DI9 。◕‿◕。
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 09 2013 07:07 GMT
#6702
On August 09 2013 14:39 pachi wrote:
When fakesteve wins canada cup


Quoting... I believe in you fakesteve!!!
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 09 2013 07:33 GMT
#6703
On August 09 2013 14:11 che wrote:
Since TeamLiquid already has a DOTA2 team,

When will TeamLiquid get a Fighting Game team?

Liquid'Sako
Liquid'Haitani
Liquid'Mago
Liquid'Sabin
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Mitsuwa
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
August 09 2013 12:11 GMT
#6704
If you haven't heard, there's some craziness going down at Cross Counter. Gootecks explains why there are no more Excellent Adventures. Gooteck's explains it here, in short they received a cease and desist order from Capcops



I dunno about the rest of you, but this really bothers me. CC has been one of the best and maybe the only content producers for strategy about fighting games and have helped bring so many people into the community. This really is a shocker to me.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 09 2013 12:20 GMT
#6705
I watched it. It sucks, I love Gooteck, and watching him be happy is so fun.
Although, I'm not surprised with Capcom's actions. Any publisher would have done the same. Selling video content about a game without permission is definitely something that should not be done like that.

Oh well.. I hope things end up well for him. He's a good guy.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 13:07:20
August 09 2013 12:49 GMT
#6706
Jesus, he spends so long getting to the point in that video.

10:56 if you don't want to hear a bunch of whining.

Edit: What Gootecks doesn't seem to understand is that Capcom's lawyers are acting almost independently. They don't take input from the community side of Capcom (Combofiend etc.), they just sniff out potential threats to their IP rights and send out hundreds of form letters identical to the one Gootecks received. They don't know anything about the scene, or even, necessarily, the game. I feel like he's taking this whole situation way too personally.

Anyway, for profit or not, Gootecks' content is benefitting Capcom and it's very short sighted for game companies to allow this kind of thing to occur. We can't be under this illusion that everything in the FGC should always be free, and at the same time want to expand our scene. If you're going to slap Cross Counter with a C&D, what about the Evo DVDs, FGTV, tournament subscriber streams? I don't think this would have happened if Capcom had better internal communication, and there is probably some chance that the decision will be reversed.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 09 2013 13:38 GMT
#6707
I don't have time to watch through the video, can someone explain what's going on?
EZ4ENCE
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 09 2013 14:04 GMT
#6708
On August 09 2013 22:38 WindWolf wrote:
I don't have time to watch through the video, can someone explain what's going on?


Capcom send a cease and deceit to Gootek about Cross Counter Tv because they were selling video with SSF4 and UMvC3 content inside it, notably the Tokido Formula stuff.
It explains why Mike Ross and other were not part of Cross Counter Tv content for a while, and why Excellent Adventures ( by the way, check it out it's hilarious ) was not produced anymore.

Now Gootek doesn't really know what to do with the channel, seeling it, making more diverse content ( music, cosplay, etc ).
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12247 Posts
August 09 2013 15:38 GMT
#6709
On August 09 2013 21:49 Cel.erity wrote:
Jesus, he spends so long getting to the point in that video.

10:56 if you don't want to hear a bunch of whining.

Edit: What Gootecks doesn't seem to understand is that Capcom's lawyers are acting almost independently. They don't take input from the community side of Capcom (Combofiend etc.), they just sniff out potential threats to their IP rights and send out hundreds of form letters identical to the one Gootecks received. They don't know anything about the scene, or even, necessarily, the game. I feel like he's taking this whole situation way too personally.

Anyway, for profit or not, Gootecks' content is benefitting Capcom and it's very short sighted for game companies to allow this kind of thing to occur. We can't be under this illusion that everything in the FGC should always be free, and at the same time want to expand our scene. If you're going to slap Cross Counter with a C&D, what about the Evo DVDs, FGTV, tournament subscriber streams? I don't think this would have happened if Capcom had better internal communication, and there is probably some chance that the decision will be reversed.


Combofiend probably just needs to get in touch with Capcom Legal (I'm sure they have lawyers in the office) and plead the community's case. The thing about Legal is that they have to uphold and protect their greater IP rights first and foremost. Any community-driven video that they create and then sell where Capcom IPs are the sole focus and subject matter which are sold for profit are in violation of IP rights. It's like having a Let's Play video where you have a Donate link and encourage payment from your viewers. It's in violation, but is it really worth the backlash of the community to go ahead with sending C&Ds and litigation? Probably not because there's an intangible value of expanding your user network and increasing positive exposure if you do nothing. I'm sure they would be more interested in obtaining a royalty deal if Gootecks were making money hand over fist.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
August 09 2013 15:57 GMT
#6710
Also check out this post by Ultradavid (originally posted to NeoGAF, someone cross posted to /r/Kappa):
http://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/comments/1jzg6y/gootecksexel_adventures_apprently_bopped_by/cbjutlv

For those who don't know, Ultradavid is a lawyer by day and a pretty prominent figure in the FGC. And one of my favorite personalities in the scene.

It's an unfortunate situation. I really do think that Capcom only benefits from this kind of content, but when dealing with the legal side of things that often doesn't change the operations, as mentioned in the above posts.. Hopefully someone can do some convincing. Nintendo/EVO style? I know a ton of people who say they got into or back into SF4 because of Excellent Adventures, and a full return sanctioned by Capcom would be huge, imo.
Mitsuwa
Profile Joined July 2010
United States793 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 16:33:56
August 09 2013 16:32 GMT
#6711
On August 10 2013 00:57 Duka08 wrote:
Also check out this post by Ultradavid (originally posted to NeoGAF, someone cross posted to /r/Kappa):
http://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/comments/1jzg6y/gootecksexel_adventures_apprently_bopped_by/cbjutlv

For those who don't know, Ultradavid is a lawyer by day and a pretty prominent figure in the FGC. And one of my favorite personalities in the scene.

It's an unfortunate situation. I really do think that Capcom only benefits from this kind of content, but when dealing with the legal side of things that often doesn't change the operations, as mentioned in the above posts.. Hopefully someone can do some convincing. Nintendo/EVO style? I know a ton of people who say they got into or back into SF4 because of Excellent Adventures, and a full return sanctioned by Capcom would be huge, imo.


Thanks for posting that, I was looking for that article when I posted the video, but I couldn't find it. Ultradavid makes some really good points in there. Specifically pointing out that Capcom had worked with CC on a number of occasions prior to all of this (Early builds of SFxT at Bar fights, Capcom official logos). So the legality of what happened seems awfully suspect considering they made no indication that this wasn't sanctioned (prior to this cease and desist), and they seemed like they were supporting them. Then out of no where, this happens.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 09 2013 18:46 GMT
#6712
On August 09 2013 23:04 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 22:38 WindWolf wrote:
I don't have time to watch through the video, can someone explain what's going on?


Capcom send a cease and deceit to Gootek about Cross Counter Tv because they were selling video with SSF4 and UMvC3 content inside it, notably the Tokido Formula stuff.
It explains why Mike Ross and other were not part of Cross Counter Tv content for a while, and why Excellent Adventures ( by the way, check it out it's hilarious ) was not produced anymore.

Now Gootek doesn't really know what to do with the channel, seeling it, making more diverse content ( music, cosplay, etc ).

Ok thanks for telling me.

My very spontanious thought is that they should check out these kind of things with Capcom first. BUT I DONT KNOW ENOUGH TO MAKE A QUALIFIED JUDGEMENT YET
EZ4ENCE
HeatEXTEND
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands836 Posts
August 10 2013 01:39 GMT
#6713
On August 09 2013 21:49 Cel.erity wrote:

Edit: What Gootecks doesn't seem to understand is that Capcom's lawyers are acting almost independently. They don't take input from the community side of Capcom (Combofiend etc.), they just sniff out potential threats to their IP rights and send out hundreds of form letters identical to the one Gootecks received. They don't know anything about the scene, or even, necessarily, the game. I feel like he's taking this whole situation way too personally.


Just for the record, this kind of counterproductive poopoo needs to be addressed, and if it takes someone taking something way too personally, so be it (imo).
knuckle
Ultraliskhero
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada249 Posts
August 10 2013 21:06 GMT
#6714
Hi guys, I recently just got interested in Street Fighter and started playing it a bit.
I want to get a cheap stick and I'm wondering if there are any stores that carry them.

I went online and wanted to get this, because its so cheap and the reviews seem alright, but I live in Canada (Calgary to be exact) and shipping this thing costs $67. So I'm wondering if there are any retail or game stores that carry any fighting sticks or if there are any other alternatives? Thanks.

I play on the PC btw, not sure if console sticks can work.
a3den
Profile Joined April 2012
704 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 21:20:28
August 10 2013 21:19 GMT
#6715
On August 11 2013 06:06 Ultraliskhero wrote:
Hi guys, I recently just got interested in Street Fighter and started playing it a bit.
I want to get a cheap stick and I'm wondering if there are any stores that carry them.

I went online and wanted to get this, because its so cheap and the reviews seem alright, but I live in Canada (Calgary to be exact) and shipping this thing costs $67. So I'm wondering if there are any retail or game stores that carry any fighting sticks or if there are any other alternatives? Thanks.

I play on the PC btw, not sure if console sticks can work.


Console sticks mostly work, X360 you must install drivers, and PS3 works natively (except if you have a motherboard that has that cursed chipset, then it doesn't work at all).

Also, this stick is crap if unmodded.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 10 2013 21:40 GMT
#6716
On August 11 2013 06:19 a3den wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 06:06 Ultraliskhero wrote:
Hi guys, I recently just got interested in Street Fighter and started playing it a bit.
I want to get a cheap stick and I'm wondering if there are any stores that carry them.

I went online and wanted to get this, because its so cheap and the reviews seem alright, but I live in Canada (Calgary to be exact) and shipping this thing costs $67. So I'm wondering if there are any retail or game stores that carry any fighting sticks or if there are any other alternatives? Thanks.

I play on the PC btw, not sure if console sticks can work.


Console sticks mostly work, X360 you must install drivers, and PS3 works natively (except if you have a motherboard that has that cursed chipset, then it doesn't work at all).

Also, this stick is crap if unmodded.

What cipset are you talking about?
EZ4ENCE
Lemstar
Profile Joined October 2010
United States387 Posts
August 10 2013 23:28 GMT
#6717
On August 11 2013 06:40 WindWolf wrote:
What cipset are you talking about?

Old MadCatz PS3 sticks don't work with Nvidia USB chipsets. I think they fixed it by the time Round 2 TEs came out.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 11 2013 17:53 GMT
#6718
Ragequiters aren't that common in this game? Had one a few days ago, had another one today I mean, what's wrong with switching character in online rematches despite that you won earlier.
On August 11 2013 08:28 Lemstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 06:40 WindWolf wrote:
What cipset are you talking about?

Old MadCatz PS3 sticks don't work with Nvidia USB chipsets. I think they fixed it by the time Round 2 TEs came out.

Ok. But if I'm buying a stick, it'll be a Xbox 360 one.
EZ4ENCE
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 11 2013 18:06 GMT
#6719
On August 12 2013 02:53 WindWolf wrote:
Ragequiters aren't that common in this game? Had one a few days ago, had another one today I mean, what's wrong with switching character in online rematches despite that you won earlier.
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2013 08:28 Lemstar wrote:
On August 11 2013 06:40 WindWolf wrote:
What cipset are you talking about?

Old MadCatz PS3 sticks don't work with Nvidia USB chipsets. I think they fixed it by the time Round 2 TEs came out.

Ok. But if I'm buying a stick, it'll be a Xbox 360 one.


If you ragequit you usually lose you points anyway, so I don't understand why people do it.
Hand like one or two people do it in more than 2000 ranked games.. It's not that common.

By the way, any Vega players here ?
I'm so lost when playing against him, I probably have a sub 15% winrate against that fucker. ~~
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Aando
Profile Joined August 2011
1304 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 05:36:03
August 12 2013 05:35 GMT
#6720
I hate this game. First I can do a combo 50 times in a row and then suddenly I get brain aneurysm or something and I can't do the combo at all... Am I alone to suffer from this? How do you guys do when it happens, take a break or work through it?
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