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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 01 2011 02:52 GMT
#3021
JWong gotta be super disappointed about this one; his sf4 results(lack of) showed how much he was putting in on mvc3, definitely not the type of dude who makes that sacrifice to grab a bronze medal.

AE Finals time =]]]]
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
DotADeMoN
Profile Joined June 2010
United States517 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 02:52:55
August 01 2011 02:52 GMT
#3022
And one hour later, all the Phoenix salt will turn to Yun salt. I can't wait.
drew-chan
Profile Joined July 2009
Malaysia1517 Posts
August 01 2011 02:52 GMT
#3023
Salty as fuck right now QQ

At least there's more AE to come
...
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
August 01 2011 02:52 GMT
#3024
Plus, see how godlike his wesker/haggar is? Or Clock's Doom or FChamp's Dorm?

Now imagine them WITHOUT meter restrictions.

She's overpowered, yes, but she comes with her own restriction. Teams with her aren't any more broken than the top tier MvC2 teams like Scrub or Thrax or MSS or Matrix.
Fan of the Jangbanger
FACENC
Profile Joined March 2011
United States63 Posts
August 01 2011 02:53 GMT
#3025
On August 01 2011 11:48 Grettin wrote:
How much the winner of the tournament gets btw?


First place for both MvC3 and AE is around $10,000. It is a percentage of the entry fees. Both games had over 1400 entrants at $10 a piece. Traditionally, winner gets 70% of the entry fees, but since Evo is paying out top 8, it might be slightly less than that. That is a good estimate though.
BM4LIFE
Ramble
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden877 Posts
August 01 2011 02:53 GMT
#3026
So to kill time during breaks before AE, top 3 for AE? Daigo, Poongko and WolfKrone third.
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
August 01 2011 02:53 GMT
#3027
I'd like to point a few things out since people can't let go of their "wow, a strong character won. IMBA IMBA" nonsense:

There were 3.5 Phoenix teams, who played a total 22 (might have been 23?) games over 7 matches. Mine in losers R1, F. Champ in winners R1, Viscant in Winners R1, F. Champ in losers R2, Noel in G2 and 3 of losers R2, Viscant in R2, and Viscant in the finals.

Out of those 22 games, a phoenix won I think 12 (I lost track towards the end). Viscant accounts for 10 of those wins.

Out of all those games that a Phoenix team won, Phoenix wasn't even involved in some.

Out of those 7 matches that a phoenix team won, a Phoenix team won 3. Viscant's Phoenix team was the only one who won a single match.

Mine, F. Champ, and Noel (the other Phoenix teams) lost every one of their matches, and won a combined 2 games in all their matches.

Every Phoenix that lost was beaten by a non-Phoenix team (meaning that no Phoenix eliminated another Phoenix).

My conclusion? Phoenix is strong, but counterable. Kind of like every character who is high tier. The only difference is that a few months ago people thought she was completely broken so they learned her and stuck with her, and now they don't want to go back because she's still at least top tier. Viscant didn't win because of Phoenix. He won because he was better today.
DotADeMoN
Profile Joined June 2010
United States517 Posts
August 01 2011 02:54 GMT
#3028
On August 01 2011 11:52 O-ops wrote:
Plus, see how godlike his wesker/haggar is? Or Clock's Doom or FChamp's Dorm?

Now imagine them WITHOUT meter restrictions.

She's overpowered, yes, but she comes with her own restriction. Teams with her aren't any more broken than the top tier MvC2 teams like Scrub or Thrax or MSS or Matrix.


The problem is that it takes zero skill to build 5 meters and then mash with Phoenix. But to counter her you need to combo into snap and then have an insane mixup game to get her before she can hard tag.
intoyourrainbOW
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States168 Posts
August 01 2011 02:55 GMT
#3029
POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNGGKOOOOOOO
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
August 01 2011 02:55 GMT
#3030
Thank god for ending the night with SS4AE and not some bullshit. HYPE
Support your esport!
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
August 01 2011 02:55 GMT
#3031
Woo markman grats
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
DoubIe_O
Profile Joined May 2009
Austria234 Posts
August 01 2011 02:55 GMT
#3032
Please Fuudo win EVo I want to see Fei Long win so baaadlyyy
"Hence to fight and conquer in all you battles is not considered as surpreme excellence, surpreme excellence consists in breaking the enemies resistance without fighting"; Sun Zu
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 02:56:01
August 01 2011 02:55 GMT
#3033
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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starleague forever
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
August 01 2011 02:55 GMT
#3034
On August 01 2011 11:55 Alabasern wrote:
Thank god for ending the night with SS4AE and not some bullshit. HYPE


glad it's not mk9!
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Hokay
Profile Joined May 2007
United States738 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 02:56:55
August 01 2011 02:56 GMT
#3035
On August 01 2011 11:52 Alabasern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 11:50 Hokay wrote:
On August 01 2011 11:48 Alabasern wrote:
On August 01 2011 11:46 Hokay wrote:
On August 01 2011 11:44 Alabasern wrote:
On August 01 2011 11:43 Ramble wrote:
Viscant is a beast but that Phoenix man...


He doesn't deserve that finale.


Jay is a pioneer in mvc2, and really knowledgeable when it comes to fighting games. All the fucking Wesker resets and setups are mostly his creations, and he shares them with the community. HIs phoenix is godlike as well. He deserves this.


I humbly disagree.


Hate the game, not the player. Get out.


I do hate the game? The player is irrelevant...if the game is broken. Hopefully this is the last EVO for MVC3.


And you act like other players don't have access to other characters like Phoenix in the game. How can you say someone does not deserve a win when they play the game the best (that means using all the tools you are given including characters) out of the competition? You're just a whiner that doesn't undersand competition, and I bet you complain about protoss or whatever "OP" race flavor of the week in the SC2 scene. ggpo
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
August 01 2011 02:56 GMT
#3036
Viscant still deserves it, I mean look how fucking dirty his Wesker is with just one real assist he can throw out, and no meter. He could play any team and be a legitimate contender, maybe he wouldn't be #1 but he's still an amazing player.
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nRoot
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany928 Posts
August 01 2011 02:57 GMT
#3037
On August 01 2011 11:55 DoubIe_O wrote:
Please Fuudo win EVo I want to see Fei Long win so baaadlyyy

Well.... ok ;D

Daigo gonna take dat monayy
pLaNeT_302
Profile Joined September 2010
United States112 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 02:58:36
August 01 2011 02:57 GMT
#3038
On August 01 2011 11:55 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 11:55 Alabasern wrote:
Thank god for ending the night with SS4AE and not some bullshit. HYPE


glad it's not mk9!

easy......
DotADeMoN
Profile Joined June 2010
United States517 Posts
August 01 2011 02:58 GMT
#3039
Viscant deserves it no doubt. I'm just not sure he would win without phoenix.
TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
August 01 2011 02:58 GMT
#3040
From what we've seen, I'm gonna say:

Daigo
Wolfkrone
Fuudo
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