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Zen5034
United States384 Posts
On May 03 2012 06:28 CyDe wrote: Haha, would be very awesome, unlikely however since I have not played for a few days now o.O EDIT: Was 'I' any good? >< Yes you were. | ||
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Irratonalys
Germany902 Posts
http://symthic.com/charts.php | ||
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Divine-Sneaker
Denmark1225 Posts
Fk this. | ||
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Cham
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Phelix
1931 Posts
I hope to god that they buff back shotguns with the next patch/CQ DLC. The madness that I go through trying to use semi-auto shotguns close range and not killing opponents. The pain I'll probably endure while using the SPAS-12 for 500 kills might be intolerable. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On May 05 2012 00:05 Divine-Sneaker wrote: Completely rage filled since getting screwed over 9001 times in the course of an hour 20 mins. Not just ridiculous suppression or inherent bulletspread at close range, but also issues present in BC2 such as retarded netcode and nonexistant hitregistration and people disguising as corpses only to suddenly get up and kill you. Fk this. Lolworthy indeed. | ||
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Phelix
1931 Posts
Defibbing someone that you think that was your ally, but turns out to be an enemy is fun. God, frustrating that you play a game with zero resses when you're playing Frontline Assault. http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/31349927/1/351574740/ Bad performance from me in a while. | ||
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Demonhunter04
1530 Posts
On May 02 2012 00:04 Mithhaike wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 01 2012 18:01 rebdomine wrote: How'd you get the vehicle kill? I'm sure nearly everyone got their first torch kill by burning some unwary sniper lol Also did it the easy way, took out the spawn beacon AFTER i torched the sniper. :D I got the torch kill by walking up to a support who was crouched with an M249, and using it on him. lol. | ||
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Zen5034
United States384 Posts
So close and yet so far! | ||
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Irratonalys
Germany902 Posts
MVP2 is so hard to get. x_X just play a few rounds with me and you will get plenty of second places  on another hand , p90 vs mp7 , what is teamliquids oppinion? | ||
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Phelix
1931 Posts
On May 10 2012 00:14 Zen5034 wrote: MVP2 is so hard to get. x_X So close and yet so far! I always get them mostly because I'm not playing Assault much now, and the top guy is usually an Assault who dives for medics. Revives for 100 points is silly, DICE should lower it to 50 or less, they already get the best guns for 1v1 infantry combat. On May 10 2012 02:31 Irratonalys wrote: just play a few rounds with me and you will get plenty of second places on another hand , p90 vs mp7 , what is teamliquids oppinion? Well, what attachments do you use with them? If it's base, then obviously the P90 with less side-to-side recoil, as well as a higher bullet velocity. I run the P90 with a suppressor, and the MP7 with Ext. Mags and Laser sight (one of the only weapons where I don't use the suppressor). The hipfire with the laser sight is good, combined with the 950 RPM allow you to take down almost anyone at CQB. P90 is better for all-around combat, somewhat similar to the M16A3/M4A1 weapon designs. | ||
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Divine-Sneaker
Denmark1225 Posts
On May 10 2012 00:14 Zen5034 wrote: MVP2 is so hard to get. x_X So close and yet so far! I know the feeling bro. Even though I have the medal I tend to almost always get either mvp or be out of mvp1-3 range altogether. It happens so often. | ||
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Rob28
Canada705 Posts
On May 10 2012 02:31 Irratonalys wrote: on another hand , p90 vs mp7 , what is teamliquids oppinion? P90 @ midrange+ enagagements, mp7 @ <15 meters Laser, RDS, Ext Mags I like the PDW-R best of all the PDWs though. | ||
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altered
Switzerland646 Posts
Theoretically the P90 could use a second attachment but i dont reccomend it since the flash supressor reduces hip accuracy and the supressor reduces the dropoff start from 12m to 6m wich hurts the gun extremely in the range where its strengths should be. Personnaly i like the MP7 more because i value the 50rpm advantage more than everything the P90 has to offer combined (although by a very small margin). For people who still (after the patch) like to use the supressor, the P90 would probably be the better choice. Edit: I just realised something. The P90 and MP7 have the same ADS and hip spread when standing still. Since you are going to hipfire in CQC anyway it would probably be smarter to put a scope with magnification on it to equalize the mid/longrange deficiency a little bit. Or maybe an IRNV on maps with foliage. | ||
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Karliath
United States2214 Posts
On May 10 2012 08:00 altered wrote: P90 and MP7+ eMag are almost the same gun. The MP7 has 50rpm more an a little less Vrecoil. The Hrecoil is a little bit in favour of the P90 but not by much so i dont really care about that. The difference in muzzle velocity comes only into play at 50m+, since both guns suck from midrange upwards anyway that doesnt really help the P90 much. Also the P90 has 10 more bullets per mag. Theoretically the P90 could use a second attachment but i dont reccomend it since the flash supressor reduces hip accuracy and the supressor reduces the dropoff start from 12m to 6m wich hurts the gun extremely in the range where its strengths should be. Personnaly i like the MP7 more because i value the 50rpm advantage more than everything the P90 has to offer combined. For people who still (after the patch) like to use the supressor, the P90 would probably be the better choice. Since the MP7 has less vertical recoil, you will be more successful getting shots at headlevel. Horizontal recoil doesn't matter much in close quarters. | ||
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Divine-Sneaker
Denmark1225 Posts
Also, for me personally horizontal recoil can go die in a giant fire of something inappropriate. At least you can reliably compensate for vertical recoil, whereas horizontal is completely and utterly random as to whether it jumps left or right. | ||
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
On May 10 2012 19:55 Divine-Sneaker wrote: Who says you're going to hipfire cqc? Also, for me personally horizontal recoil can go die in a giant fire of something inappropriate. At least you can reliably compensate for vertical recoil, whereas horizontal is completely and utterly random as to whether it jumps left or right. CQC its nearly always better to hipfire. When is it good to hipfire? when the enemy is close and there's no need to zoom.....aka CQC. | ||
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Karliath
United States2214 Posts
On May 10 2012 19:55 Divine-Sneaker wrote: Who says you're going to hipfire cqc? Also, for me personally horizontal recoil can go die in a giant fire of something inappropriate. At least you can reliably compensate for vertical recoil, whereas horizontal is completely and utterly random as to whether it jumps left or right. When else are you going to hipfire? Speed > accuracy in close quarters. The whole point of hipfiring is to get those extra few rounds into your opponent before he can even start shooting at you, meaning more damage inflicted faster (and suppression). I agree that it's easier to compensate for vertical recoil, especially when you're aiming down the sights and shooting in bursts, but vertical recoil is pretty bad when you are trying to hipfire someone with one continuous burst that empties half your mag. It's very helpful to be able to maintain your reticule at your opponent's head-level. In contrast, horizontal recoil is less important because the target is so big in close quarters. Furthermore, you and your opponent are probably strafing left or right, so you're going to have to adjust your horizontal aim anyway. After the first rounds are fired, you don't see people trying to jump or go prone in the middle of shooting. I don't know about you, but I never have trouble hitting my opponent somewhere on his vertical axis, but I always have trouble making sure I'm shooting at head-level. | ||
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Divine-Sneaker
Denmark1225 Posts
You might as well unless you're in a position where you're surprising or flanking somone around a corner or some sort of cover where moving past the obvious firezone from their cover is more important. I at least feel that the accuracy in this game is so terrible for hipfire that almost any situation calls for ADS. The retarded suppression certainly doesn't help on that either. | ||
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altered
Switzerland646 Posts
For me there is no other reason to use the MP7 or P90 over other guns than the hipfire accuracy they have. When you are not moving those two guns with a laser have the same spread from the hip as they have while ADS and their moving hipsread is still a tiny bit better than that of an attachmentless M4A1 while ADS and moving (0.75 - 0.8). | ||
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