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Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 01:56:29
November 21 2010 04:24 GMT
#1
Please check the second post.

DATE ANNOUNCED

Start:
Saturday, Dec 18 6:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
Saturday, Dec 18 6:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
(both times are AM)

Length:
24 hours straight

Planned Content

Guests

GM Alejandro "LittlePeasant" Ramirez
WIM Ekaterina "Revenger" Ubiennykh
and of course
Gretorp

Opening Discussion

- Kings Indian,
- Sicilian after 2. Bc4
- Caro-Kann (Advanced or otherwise)
- Bird

These are the public-requested, but also coming up.

- Two Knights Game (as an integral part of my rant on why engines suck)
- King's Gambit

Game Analysis

- Live game analysis with GM Alejandro Ramirez
- Game analysis of your sent in games
- Analysis of random games from titled players (mostly blitz) I gathered from ICC. To show where my thoughts differ from most, what I think when I see a position and how even titled players can fall victim to not so complicated things.
- As some kind of rest random watching and ranting on actual then live GM/IM blitz games.

Community Event

- TL Simultan
and
- TL Consultation game vs me
- Someone suggested this and it could be fun. There is a piece set on ICC that makes the pieces disappear as if you were playing blind chess. I will try playing so in a few longer time control games (maybe 15-minute or longer) and see how it goes. Of course it's different from blind chess since the other player sees the pieces just right.

Game Psychology

- How, what and why does it win?

Preparation and Planning

- How I prepare when I sometimes take chess more seriously.
- How would I prepare for a tournament.
- Why does it change according to the style, the format, or the time.
- Some short ideas about how to build up your opening choices.
- How do some openings transfer into midgame and later endgame and why is it good or bad? How does it relate to planning ahead?

and so on

Random Chilling

- I will sing. You've been warned.
- There will be times when I will just lay back and take a break, maybe eat a bite or something. During those times it could be cool if you bombarded me with casual questions or whatever. I could play a quick game of SC II or something other than chess - but nothing that would take too long.
- If some of my friends decide to come over and make guest appearances we will probably banter and chill some.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 15:35:54
November 21 2010 04:24 GMT
#2
Please check if you are listed and PM me if you're not but want to participate.

List of names for the simul:

CynanMachae
hype[NZ]
catamorphist
Mothra
sjh
Soda
Kaal
LampZerg
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 04:15:37
November 21 2010 04:24 GMT
#3
Poll: Am I awesome or what?

Yes. (214)
 
52%

Yes. (198)
 
48%

412 total votes

Your vote: Am I awesome or what?

(Vote): Yes.
(Vote): Yes.

Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3684 Posts
November 21 2010 05:39 GMT
#4
Really excited for this. I'll be watching in between exams. I'll also try and get some games in myself and ask for your advice.
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
November 21 2010 05:47 GMT
#5
Shit I sort of lost interest in chess and picked up go. Then I lost interest in go. Then I lost interest in StarCraft. Then I lost interest in being fat =). Now I got interested in StarCraft again. Now I want to get interested in go and chess again but no time. =/
Do your best, God will do the rest.
durza
Profile Joined August 2009
United States667 Posts
November 21 2010 05:57 GMT
#6
Really looking forward to this, always fun to watch top level chess.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 06:01:34
November 21 2010 06:01 GMT
#7
yay, Ng5 returns!!

I'm excited for this.

edit: my last exam is the 17th
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
November 21 2010 12:50 GMT
#8
This is gonna be awesome.
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
palookieblue
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia326 Posts
November 21 2010 12:55 GMT
#9
Looking forward to this. :3
oyoyo
AcTiVillain
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia81 Posts
November 21 2010 12:58 GMT
#10
Show us what cheese looks like in chess!
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 21 2010 13:04 GMT
#11
Approve of the idea for top level chess!
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nakam
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden245 Posts
November 21 2010 13:40 GMT
#12
Very interesting!

What I'd like to learn more about is the endgame. Even though it's probably the part I've studied the most I still find it to be the most interesting part of the game. I find the rook endgames to be the hardest so that's what I'd like to see more of.
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lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
November 21 2010 13:40 GMT
#13
there you are. you have been gone for a long time dude. glad to see you back around. miss watching chess live streams and beating IM's and calling them out for being that bad
Awesome german interviewer: "What was your idea going into games against Idra" "I WANTED TO USE A CHEESE STRATEGY BECAUSE IDRA IS KNOWN TO TILT AFTER LOSING TO SOMETHING GAY" Demuslim
FenneK
Profile Joined November 2010
France1231 Posts
November 21 2010 14:18 GMT
#14
Love to watch some chess, sounds awesome.
good luck have batman
Dieoxhide
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark53 Posts
November 21 2010 15:10 GMT
#15
Yes, yes. This is awesome. I'd love to watch you stream.

I would really like to hear about openers and the theories behind them. Plus, if you could relate to some good ol' chess history, maybe some classic games, then that would be double-awesome. By the way, do you think you could get featured on TL just for that show? Chess demands a big audience.
'Ex nihilo nihil fit'
uNiGNoRe
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Germany1115 Posts
November 21 2010 15:19 GMT
#16
On November 21 2010 14:47 jkillashark wrote:
Shit I sort of lost interest in chess and picked up go. Then I lost interest in go. Then I lost interest in StarCraft. Then I lost interest in being fat =). Now I got interested in StarCraft again. Now I want to get interested in go and chess again but no time. =/

Just be careful you wont be interested in being fat anymore.
Yngvis
Profile Joined September 2009
Norway26 Posts
November 21 2010 15:23 GMT
#17
Awesome, I'll definetly check it out when I got time! I saw the option for streaming chess amongst other games and I was like "huh, never seen a chess stream before". Cool initiative
tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
November 21 2010 15:36 GMT
#18
8-12 hours of ng5 chess. wat
this is epic, I'll definitely be watching.
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
g.Krow
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada41 Posts
November 21 2010 15:39 GMT
#19
What's the stream link?
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 21 2010 15:41 GMT
#20
SCORE! Love Ng5 :D
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foomy
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4 Posts
November 21 2010 15:57 GMT
#21
Hi :} I'm somewhat new to TL and don't know much about you or if you have done this before, etc. Can you share some of your chess background? I'm assuming you must be a great/advanced tournament caliber player if you're doing this, but I'd like to hear of your chess accomplishments.

I'd like to play you! I'm an intermediate casual player.
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
November 21 2010 17:02 GMT
#22
Really cool. Will watch these topics for sure.

Ps. using <b> for those read headers would be good I think ;o
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
November 21 2010 17:09 GMT
#23
On November 21 2010 13:24 Ng5 wrote:

PS II: Beware - my spoken English has gotten that much better, nerds.



oh man can't wait to hear that
Guerrilla705
Profile Joined November 2010
United States16 Posts
November 21 2010 17:56 GMT
#24
I remember when I used to play chess all the time, gosh its been a bit. Anyone else USCF rated? used to be a tad over 1800
"It has become almost a cliche to remark that nobody boasts of ignorance of literature, but it is socially acceptable to boast ignorance of science and proudly claim incompetence in mathematics." -Richard Dawkins
Hoosegow
Profile Joined August 2010
United States139 Posts
November 21 2010 18:06 GMT
#25
Oh man, I hope this is one a day that I can watch it. Sounds awesome :D
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16986 Posts
November 21 2010 18:11 GMT
#26
Request: could you talk a bit about how to play positionally/prophylactically? Like...Karpov or Petrosian? Also closed positions...

Also, will the full stream be available on-demand for later viewing?
Moderator
Kuhfighter
Profile Joined October 2010
7 Posts
November 21 2010 18:13 GMT
#27
OMG i am so looking forward to this event. Maybe i'll send you the game i'll play next weekend for analysis (if it's somewhat interesting).
tieya
Profile Joined September 2010
United States308 Posts
November 21 2010 18:26 GMT
#28
this is awesome, i just got into chess i'll def watch
Usurper
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Macedonia283 Posts
November 21 2010 19:40 GMT
#29
On November 22 2010 03:11 Empyrean wrote:
Request: could you talk a bit about how to play positionally/prophylactically? Like...Karpov or Petrosian? Also closed positions...

Also, will the full stream be available on-demand for later viewing?


I remember when i was playing Chess religiously as a youngster, the teacher always stressed out how Karpov doesn't beat his opponents, he helps them beat themselves. :p
I love humanity. It is people that i can't stand.
Kitkatzy
Profile Joined May 2008
United States213 Posts
November 21 2010 19:45 GMT
#30
yay! <3 ng5. Great idea!!
Curse Kitkatz
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
November 21 2010 19:48 GMT
#31
YES! I love your chess commentary Ng5. Please come back.
darkness overpowering
Wayra
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
195 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-21 19:59:52
November 21 2010 19:59 GMT
#32
Awesome! I always wonder what exercise you can do to help read moves faster and longer sequences of moves?
rally_point
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada458 Posts
November 21 2010 20:56 GMT
#33
Awesome. I've always enjoyed and have been interested in chess, but have never gotten a chance to see how the pros think. I'll be looking forward to your analyses!
DrSeRRoD
Profile Joined October 2010
United States490 Posts
November 21 2010 21:04 GMT
#34
Sounds great, I will definitely watch!
kadaver_BB
Profile Joined May 2010
55 Posts
November 21 2010 21:07 GMT
#35
I have no clue about chess, i mean i know how the pieces move and stuff, but thats about it.
Will definately watch just to see how complex chess can get :D
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
November 21 2010 21:57 GMT
#36
Ng5 I'd be very interested in playing you. Do you have a USCF or FIDE rating?
catamorphist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States297 Posts
November 21 2010 22:17 GMT
#37
FYI, the usual English abbreviation for "simultaneous exhibition" is just "simul", not "simultan."
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/281144/1/catamorphist/
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
November 21 2010 22:34 GMT
#38
I'll stop by. Always wanted to get into chess, but it's hard to practice when I'm too bad to know what I should be practicing.
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
Epithet
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States840 Posts
November 21 2010 23:18 GMT
#39
On November 22 2010 02:56 Guerrilla705 wrote:
I remember when I used to play chess all the time, gosh its been a bit. Anyone else USCF rated? used to be a tad over 1800

I used to be about 1700 USCF in highschool but I'm rusty now
YellOw, Reach, & Nal_Ra Hwaiting!!
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
November 22 2010 00:19 GMT
#40
On November 22 2010 00:57 foomy wrote:
Hi :} I'm somewhat new to TL and don't know much about you or if you have done this before, etc. Can you share some of your chess background? I'm assuming you must be a great/advanced tournament caliber player if you're doing this, but I'd like to hear of your chess accomplishments.

I'd like to play you! I'm an intermediate casual player.


This dude beats Kamsky in blitz.
Fan of the Jangbanger
DrSeRRoD
Profile Joined October 2010
United States490 Posts
November 22 2010 00:19 GMT
#41
I was probably 1400ish about 15+ years ago when I first played. I haven't gotten into it yet but am trying to so this came just at the right time.
Imagist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia484 Posts
November 22 2010 00:46 GMT
#42
Looking forward to it!
I enjoy Starcraft when I'm not too busy being dynamic and attractive.
iliera
Profile Joined January 2010
Estonia78 Posts
November 22 2010 00:57 GMT
#43
ummmmm if i want to play against you, where would we play?
do i need to sign somewhere if i wanted to play against you?
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 22 2010 01:00 GMT
#44
ICC is where pretty much every real chess player plays chess online.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 22 2010 01:00 GMT
#45
chess.com is free if you're just an under 1700 scrub like me though.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
November 22 2010 01:39 GMT
#46
My last exam is in january...I think. @_@

Will you yourself be playing?
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
noveyak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States35 Posts
November 22 2010 01:44 GMT
#47
This looks really exciting, I was in to chess for a period of time and always enjoyed watching good games and analysis =)
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
November 22 2010 01:48 GMT
#48
I'd love to watch you play. I used to play a lot in highschool but now I have no time. I've always wanted to get back into it
We talkin about PRACTICE
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
November 22 2010 02:10 GMT
#49
I haven't played chess in awhile but I'd like to get in on the simultan. TL has gotten a lot bigger lately (in members)...will there be a cap? If not, maybe we can overwhelm you with pure numbers...
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Colpan
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States196 Posts
November 22 2010 03:10 GMT
#50
from this other streamed chess post:
his icc profile is sarevok
i watched him before and he definitely is amazing and insightful and quite humorous
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
November 22 2010 03:23 GMT
#51
what is like the go-to chess program that everyone plays on?
iliera
Profile Joined January 2010
Estonia78 Posts
November 22 2010 03:55 GMT
#52
On November 22 2010 10:00 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
ICC is where pretty much every real chess player plays chess online.

don't you need to pay for icc?
i play on fics using babachess
~2000 in standrad ~1700 in blitz(i think)
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
November 22 2010 04:07 GMT
#53
On November 22 2010 09:19 O-ops wrote:

This dude beats Kamsky in blitz.


Seriously? Kamsky beats Anand in blitz. If you beat in Kamsky in blitz, I'd rather not play you in standard. I'm a 1900 rated USCF and 1800 rated FIDE player, but I'll definately 100% pass on getting embaressed.
Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
November 22 2010 04:26 GMT
#54
I started to adopt the King's Indian Defense (usually play one of the Queen's Gambit lines as white), but I'm having trouble dealing with people forcing closed positions. I'd some help in keeping up a dynamic game once the dust settles after the first 15 moves or so.

Very excited about your endeavor.
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
November 22 2010 05:28 GMT
#55
Thanks to our glorious campus Wi-Fi I got cut off right as I was posting this.

Okay, let me put on my latest favourite song and get down to replying. It's a long post, so take heed. I also edited the original post.


jkillashark wrote:
... Now I want to get interested in go and chess again but no time. =/


I hear you there. It takes a lot of time. I barely play once every few weeks.


nakam wrote:
... What I'd like to learn more about is the endgame. ... I find the rook endgames to be the hardest so that's what I'd like to see more of.


Could definitely do that. And I could probably also suggest some resources for further research and self-improvement.


lightrise wrote:
... you have been gone for a long time dude. ...


Been busy days. Big changes. A lot happening. Mostly good and then some bad.


Dieoxhide wrote:
... do you think you could get featured on TL just for that show? Chess demands a big audience.


I've been featured for a while now, and I'm scoring over 300 hundred watchers since then - for which I am very grateful.
Getting featured came right before my move to the US though, so you probably couldn't have seen me more than twice like that.


varan wrote:
... I saw the option for streaming chess amongst other games and ...


I think that option started from me, actually. Then others joined in as well.



foomy wrote:
... Can you share some of your chess background? ...


I think I will leave that up for my stream.



Empyrean wrote:
... could you talk a bit about how to play positionally/prophylactically? ... Also closed positions...

... will the full stream be available on-demand for later viewing?


Can be.

I'll make sure it will be available through one media or the other.


Kuhfighter wrote:
... Maybe i'll send you the game i'll play next weekend ...


Do so. Even if you think it's bad or boring. Or just dig up another game.


Kaal wrote:
... Do you have a USCF or FIDE rating?


I'll save this rant for the stream, if you don't mind.

And sure for the game!



catamorphist wrote:
FYI, the usual English abbreviation for "simultaneous exhibition" is just "simul", not "simultan."


I never really used the English word(s). It's pronounced exactly as "simultan" in Hungarian (that's what we use for "simultaneous"), so I always used that.


O-ops wrote:
This dude beats Kamsky in blitz.


I got lucky. But I would love to elaborate on it during the stream. The game itself was quite bad, though.


iliera wrote:
... where would we play? ...
... don't you need to pay for icc? ...


Yes - ICC would be the place to go. Yes it is pay-to-play. On the other hand you can get a one week or so trial which could be perfect just for this event.


ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
chess.com is free if you're just an under 1700 scrub like me though.


Me commenting on any online place will probably need to be saved for the stream.


Z3kk wrote:
My last exam is in january...I think. @_@
Will you yourself be playing?


The exam poll is mostly for students in North America. We tend to finish the exams very early - in exchange for working more during the semester.

I will see if I can be playing, but I will definitely collect some of my games for analysis.



Zona wrote:
...will there be a cap? If not, maybe we can overwhelm you with pure numbers...


I don't plan there to be a cap. One thing to watch out for if there's going to be a lot of participants - it could take several hours.

I would love to do an online simul in the oldstyle way. Where we don't care about the clock I just move in each game lineary and you have to move when I got to your board again.

Har-Zvi doesn't deserve to be a record holder anyway.

Perfect score: 30-0, Indiana-Jones(GM)
Most points: 59.5-17.5, garompon(GM)



Kazius wrote:
I started to adopt the King's Indian Defense ... I'm having trouble dealing with people forcing closed positions.


That's the heart and soul of the KID! I would love to talk about that one. I already did so before. I took it up when I realized engines don't know shit about playing it right back in the days. They still aren't all that bright about it.
Epithet
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States840 Posts
November 22 2010 05:46 GMT
#56
On November 22 2010 09:19 O-ops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2010 00:57 foomy wrote:
Hi :} I'm somewhat new to TL and don't know much about you or if you have done this before, etc. Can you share some of your chess background? I'm assuming you must be a great/advanced tournament caliber player if you're doing this, but I'd like to hear of your chess accomplishments.

I'd like to play you! I'm an intermediate casual player.


This dude beats Kamsky in blitz.

For real?
YellOw, Reach, & Nal_Ra Hwaiting!!
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
November 22 2010 07:23 GMT
#57
I'm def interested in watching this.
undyinglight
Profile Joined December 2008
United States611 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-22 10:19:03
November 22 2010 10:01 GMT
#58
Ng5 do you have Chessmaster: Grandmaster Edition? It is the latest version released in 2007. If you do have it can you play a game against it live?
Rise Up!
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
November 22 2010 10:08 GMT
#59
Sorry I haven't seen your stream, but just wondering, are you Ng5 on ICC? You're an IM, right? I think I've seen you play, maybe against curtains or something.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
November 22 2010 10:14 GMT
#60
Hi Ng5, any chance for a few games 3/0 or similar on playchess.com platform?
I am floating inbetween 2100-2200 rating there.
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
Hoosegow
Profile Joined August 2010
United States139 Posts
November 22 2010 16:16 GMT
#61
Ooh, I second the idea of King's Indian discussion. I used to play 1. d4 exclusively, but now I'm trying to broaden my horizons so I'm trying to learn some 1. c4 play. I usually transposition into the Queen's Gambit if my opponent lets me, but I'm having troubles with games that lead into the KID.
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-22 19:33:22
November 22 2010 19:32 GMT
#62
On November 22 2010 12:10 Colpan wrote:
from this other streamed chess post:
his icc profile is sarevok
i watched him before and he definitely is amazing and insightful and quite humorous


oh man that is a sick record he has.
Epithet
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States840 Posts
November 22 2010 22:41 GMT
#63
On November 22 2010 19:01 undyinglight wrote:
Ng5 do you have Chessmaster: Grandmaster Edition? It is the latest version released in 2007. If you do have it can you play a game against it live?

Why stop there? Play against Rybka 4 and get dominated lol. Na, I'm kidding. But The King is a relatively weak engine now compared to the newer ones...even though it will completely dominate most people. Please don't play against it or other engines. It's quite boring to watch unless ur Naka or something.

I'd love to see you talk about opening theory(KID, grunfeld, English, Reti, or whatever) and middle game theory(static and dynamic features, sacrifices on h7,f7,g7, etc., specific mates), and the type of end games and middle games that can arise from certain openings.
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Epithet
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States840 Posts
November 22 2010 22:44 GMT
#64

Har-Zvi doesn't deserve to be a record holder anyway.

Perfect score: 30-0, Indiana-Jones(GM)
Most points: 59.5-17.5, garompon(GM)


Har-Zvi annoys the shit out of me. It's something about his voice...
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
November 22 2010 22:48 GMT
#65
i'd like to see some discussion of how to play against 2. Bc4 when playing the sicilian as black
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
November 23 2010 02:34 GMT
#66
Man I used to play so much chess, but I hated having to learn all of the different openings. Like I would get good at an opening and then when I played black some guy would open some opening I never saw and went down some crazy line where there was a non-obvious tactical advantage, so frustrating. Chess isn't "solved" but there are so many lines that the learning curve is all about memorizing patterns and positions. This should be fun though
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Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1893 Posts
November 23 2010 04:54 GMT
#67
How to find parralel chessmaster abuse?
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Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16986 Posts
November 23 2010 07:53 GMT
#68
Whoa, you're Hungarian? I always thought you were British O_o
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Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
November 24 2010 00:42 GMT
#69
Epithet wrote:
For real?


Yes, but as I said it was a very awful game. I only realized it when I wanted to analyse it on stream. I kept wishing it would be over already.


undyinglight wrote:
Ng5 do you have Chessmaster: Grandmaster Edition? It is the latest version released in 2007. If you do have it can you play a game against it live?


I actually do that for fun sometimes. Or at least I used to when I had more time for chess. Could definitely try it.


Cel.erity wrote:
Sorry I haven't seen your stream, but just wondering, are you Ng5 on ICC? You're an IM, right? I think I've seen you play, maybe against curtains or something.


No I'm not him. I just stole the name. I just wanted to pick a name on the fly and since you guys have a G5 already I was like... G5, Ng5, whatever.


One Page Memory wrote:
Hi Ng5, any chance for a few games 3/0 or similar on playchess.com platform?
I am floating inbetween 2100-2200 rating there.


In theory I have a subscription there due to buying Fritz, in practice I haven't used it yet. I played like five games once, but I find the interface not as much to my liking. I can't promise that one because I won't have much time to try out new things before the stream, but later we can get around to it.


Epithet wrote:
Why stop there? Play against Rybka 4 and get dominated lol. Na, I'm kidding. But The King is a relatively weak engine now compared to the newer ones...even though it will completely dominate most people. Please don't play against it or other engines. It's quite boring to watch unless ur Naka or something.


Rybka isn't that strong either unless you run it on higher-end machines giving it full power of all your processors and memory. Which will make even the best hardware giving you lag in all your other windows. I really dislike how it is programmed and all the craze about it. It's cool, yes. On my new desktop PC I'm liking it more, yes... But in general just because an engine beats the other engines it doesn't mean it's zomgimbadestroyerwtf... It just doesn't fall for some of the stuff others do... It still does fall for some other crap. Especially with the bullshit opening books they are selling exactly for Rybka... Used to make me nauseous. Let's take old openings, delete some lines Rybka doesn't like and add 5 more engine moves to the end... FAIL. I have several lines refuting Rybka's opening book. If it chooses any of those opening it's dead against a reasonable player. If you want I will prove it.


Epithet wrote:

Har-Zvi annoys the shit out of me. It's something about his voice...


I think he's an asshole.


sixfour wrote:
i'd like to see some discussion of how to play against 2. Bc4 when playing the sicilian as black


Can do. But one quick comment is... You can always shoot out with 2... e6 and unless white gets back to some of the main lines try for ... d5. Should give a solid game in most cases. At least I remember playing it a few times.


darmousseh wrote:
Chess isn't "solved" but there are so many lines that the learning curve is all about memorizing patterns and positions. This should be fun though


Not entirely true, but... We can talk about it later.


Rus_Brain wrote:
How to find parralel chessmaster abuse?


Easy. Check for running processes. If you have it on your PC you're toast. If you don't you'll either be very slow while copying engines 100% and when you're left on your own you play like a noob - which is detectable. Or you write an über-imba software that sends the moves through another PC in which case you'll be too fast using 100% engine moves - and be busted. Bottom line is you use 100% engine moves and you are busted. And there's not a handful a people who are good enough to use engines, play strong on their own and be undetectable. ICC has a good modding team.
Of course I know of cheaters who pose as nice and good players who 'try' teaching others - sickening thinking about some people considering them teachers - but they are all small fries and most of them will get banned eventually.


Empyrean wrote:
Whoa, you're Hungarian? I always thought you were British O_o


I never thought my English was that good.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
November 24 2010 00:42 GMT
#70
C'mon. Start signing up for the simul.

Also I was wondering. I could probably pull off a 24 hour event.
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
November 24 2010 11:12 GMT
#71
I just finished watching the movie Searching for Bobby Fischer and I have to say high level chess is pretty sick!
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
November 24 2010 22:14 GMT
#72
This definitely looks interesting! I'll try to search among my games if I can find an interesting one to analyze

Definitely interested in a simul as well
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ETHANOL
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada68 Posts
November 25 2010 00:07 GMT
#73
Definitely keeping some games from now on for that event, ill pm when i find some interesting games!
DrSeRRoD
Profile Joined October 2010
United States490 Posts
November 25 2010 01:08 GMT
#74
On November 24 2010 20:12 deathgod6 wrote:
I just finished watching the movie Searching for Bobby Fischer and I have to say high level chess is pretty sick!


Took me a while to find it on DVD too since it is out of print. Most of them are selling for $40-50+ but it is definitely an excellent movie for chess lovers and enthusiasts.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
November 25 2010 02:34 GMT
#75
Oh crap... Checking the view number on this thread I only now realize how I missed the obligatory...

+ Show Spoiler +

IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAND!


Couldn't find a video I like.
UisTehSux
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States693 Posts
November 25 2010 02:54 GMT
#76
As black, what openings do you prefer vs D4? I've look into the Slav and Grunfield, but I find that I am too lazy to study all of the theory.

And what's your favorite vs E4? My personal favorite is The French. I'm sure I lack the skill to competently use these openings to their full potential, but I try. Lol.
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Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-25 03:31:36
November 25 2010 03:26 GMT
#77
UisTehSux wrote:
As black, what openings do you prefer vs D4? I've look into the Slav and Grunfield, but I find that I am too lazy to study all of the theory.

And what's your favorite vs E4? My personal favorite is The French. I'm sure I lack the skill to competently use these openings to their full potential, but I try. Lol.


I play literally everything as black. I never really found something I could stick with for long.

Some things I play more in a particular time control/scenario, though. I wouldn't touch the Grünfeld in correspondence as black most of the times... I usually don't get into the KID in short (-5 minute) games. And in longer (30+) games I try to keep away from the positions I mark as 'boring' or 'drawish'. Which doesn't always intersect with the set of openings considered as boring in general.

For example one of the most boring shit I can imagine in a long game is the King's Gambit's 'Modern' variation (can be reached through the countergambit too, easily) and I don't know if many would agree with that.
For me it's just so *yawn* I generally just push 3. d4 if something like 1. e4 e5 2. f4 d5 happens lately. (*)

I also used to play the Alekhine in my starting few years. Luckily I grew out of the habit, I think, but when I started playing blitz again I oftentimes found myself pushing 1... Nf6 just as a reflex more often than I would have liked.

Edit:
(*) But then again I just randomly push anything if anything happens in the first six (or up to twelve) moves lately. After that I generally get more serious.
undyinglight
Profile Joined December 2008
United States611 Posts
November 25 2010 20:25 GMT
#78
On November 24 2010 09:42 Ng5 wrote:

Show nested quote +
undyinglight wrote:
Ng5 do you have Chessmaster: Grandmaster Edition? It is the latest version released in 2007. If you do have it can you play a game against it live?


I actually do that for fun sometimes. Or at least I used to when I had more time for chess. Could definitely try it.




That would be cool, thanks man.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 26 2010 02:23 GMT
#79
ADVANCE CARO-KANN. Favourite opening to play for both sides.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
November 26 2010 02:31 GMT
#80
On November 26 2010 11:23 GolemMadness wrote:
ADVANCE CARO-KANN. Favourite opening to play for both sides.


that was played in a TL event a few months ago, but unfortunately wasn't finished.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-26 03:45:39
November 26 2010 03:42 GMT
#81
GolemMadness wrote:
ADVANCE CARO-KANN. Favourite opening to play for both sides.


Now that's something I actually play with both colours on a more regular basis. With little twists as black.


broz0rs wrote:
that was played in a TL event a few months ago, but unfortunately wasn't finished.


We can always have another event next year. But that's so far ahead, let's just survive exams and flights back and forth first.

Can't really promise to make it ground-breaking if I'm black and we play the Caro, though.

Edit: What happened to the event, by the way? I checked the start of it, but in general wasn't in the mindset to keep up or read up on any of the previous ones back then.

Edit 2: That reminded me of a hilarious story from my correspondence days. I might tell here instead of waiting for telling it on stream later.
TrueZerG
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
43 Posts
November 26 2010 05:19 GMT
#82
You should go over Pawn/Rook Endings. Also having trouble with the Centurini's Position
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Speedbump
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
New Zealand338 Posts
November 26 2010 05:57 GMT
#83
Nowadays, I'm pretty terrible at chess. Hopefully, I could try to relearn; but I'll be happy to watch you play chess, and give an explanation behind the moves.

Will try to watch this nonetheless, if I'm back in my home town then.
Smoothie
Profile Joined July 2010
18 Posts
November 26 2010 06:51 GMT
#84
I'd like to see alternative openings like the dutch or exchange french or the kan.
A look at the Ruy would be nice (it hurts my head to study it)
And maybe pull some stuff ourt of Dvoretysky's endgame manual- it's pure gold
Har-zvi's voice kinda pisses me off
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16986 Posts
November 26 2010 08:02 GMT
#85
Oh another question: would you be willing to play a you vs. TL correspondence game? I think something similar's been done before.
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evils_death
Profile Joined August 2010
77 Posts
November 26 2010 13:13 GMT
#86
I'm interested in picking up chess, but am a total newb. Is there any chance of me understanding what you're talking about? If not, would it be possible for me to read up on something/ play games online between now and then in preparation (is there site you reccomend for a amateur?)
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
November 26 2010 19:55 GMT
#87
Do you exchange off the white Bishop in the advance Caro-Khan as black? If white offers to trade bishops I've been been moving my bishop back to G6 so that if white exchanges I get h file pressure. On the other hand this can back fire in some end games, but I think it works ok for blitz.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
November 27 2010 20:39 GMT
#88
TrueZerG wrote:
... Also having trouble with the Centurini's Position


And what would be that? I never really learnt most of the names. Most of my knowledge through is trial and error.


Smoothie wrote:
I'd like to see alternative openings like the dutch or exchange french or the kan.
A look at the Ruy would be nice (it hurts my head to study it)


Dutch is cool, but I'm not sure I play it too strongly (good enough to drew Naka in 15-minute with it, though - but that's a bliss). There's a cute line in the Exchange French and everyone wants to know about the Caro. I honestly don't know why.
I'm not sure I'm good enough to play the Ruy properly. I've been planning to start playing it just to learn, but it would probably need longer games or researching - neither of which I'm doing much of in the past half year.


Empyrean wrote:
Oh another question: would you be willing to play a you vs. TL correspondence game? I think something similar's been done before.


Can be... Definitely next year, though.


evils_death wrote:
I'm interested in picking up chess, but am a total newb. Is there any chance of me understanding what you're talking about? If not, would it be possible for me to read up on something/ play games online between now and then in preparation (is there site you reccomend for a amateur?)


I think you have a chance to understand some parts - and you definitely have a chance at having good fun. I can't always explain everything. I try and I go into as much details as I can, but of course sometimes I have to skip things too.

As for preparation. You could just try the game anywhere in the meantime. There are tons of free sites. Yahoo is full of 'domeImhot-bots' and Pogo is very small. In general there's much "who has the bigger dick" going on on hobby sites, and if you get high you'll meet cheaters. Also the clock management on those sites sucks in general and they usually don't punish disconnecters, laggers, etc so I wouldn't take them too seriously. For a complete beginner I wouldn't necessarily advice a pay-to-play site, either.

All in all just play a few games wherever and chill. (Sorry I really am not competitive.)


Athos wrote:
Do you exchange off the white Bishop in the advance Caro-Khan as black? If white offers to trade bishops I've been been moving my bishop back to G6 so that if white exchanges I get h file pressure. On the other hand this can back fire in some end games, but I think it works ok for blitz.


When I play Caro I play it with g6 usually. Especially in the advanced variation. And then Nh6-Nf5. Maybe h5 pre- or after Nh6. Or Bh6 as well. I don't remember if the main line goes Bf5 after Nh6 to exchange the bishops and get a knight on f5 at once. It's not a bad position even if you just double up the pawns with Bf5-Bxf5-gxf5. I played that a lot too.

I don't like the usual advanced as black. Maybe 3... c5 is a nice trick, but it's just one of the things that can bore me.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
November 28 2010 10:50 GMT
#89
Centurini's Position is this:
http://www.chessvideos.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6425
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
November 28 2010 11:06 GMT
#90
Chess.com is a fairly laid-back site. It runs correspondence games (You have up to 3 days to make a move usually, and you play several at once) and live games (timed). You'll lose a few games, but instead of placement matches like SC2, your ELO rating changes incredibly fast for the first few games, so if you're an amateur, you'll plummet down to your level quickly.
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 28 2010 22:49 GMT
#91
Rook endings are boring. If you really want to learn about them, get a good endgame book. There's a huge amount of stuff to learn.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
November 29 2010 12:52 GMT
#92
I've never watched Ng5 before (fairly new TL member, but I'm certainly going to tune into this, since he sounds legendary based on what I've heard. Looking forward to it!
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
November 30 2010 01:08 GMT
#93
I'll try to reply and update the original post as well later tonight. I'm pulling the nth all nighter right now and I need to take a little sleep, though.

Gonna be over soon, though.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 30 2010 21:38 GMT
#94
My CFC's currently around 2240; FIDE 2170. I will battle people.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 02 2010 02:24 GMT
#95
Salivanth wrote:
You'll lose a few games, but instead of placement matches like SC2, your ELO rating changes incredibly fast for the first few games


Actually those are placement matches. Before you finish those you are called provisional, which is just like pre-placement match status in SC II. The only difference is there being usually more than five provisional games (the general idea was twenty when it was founded), thus it can make a more delicate and precise approximation.

I also don't find them all that important anymore. You are going to climb where you belong anyway - and the play and fun itself you have while climbing there can be actually far more fun than your points. That and you can get to know more people. That coming from someone who doesn't give a rat's ass about ratings, though.


GolemMadness wrote:
Rook endings are boring. If you really want to learn about them, get a good endgame book. There's a huge amount of stuff to learn.


It depends. For most people Kramnik is boring. But for me he's one of the players I still love to watch. He was probably one of the last players who could keep surprising me every now and then when the other 'more interesting' players started to get boring to watch.


Salivanth wrote:
I've never watched Ng5 before (fairly new TL member, but I'm certainly going to tune into this, since he sounds legendary based on what I've heard. Looking forward to it!


Woo. I'm legendary now. Way to go.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-02 02:29:53
December 02 2010 02:29 GMT
#96
I updated the OP and the second post both so go check them out. Keep giving me ideas if you have any and feel free to comment on the changes and the news.

I also got more PMs about trying to get a double cast with Day[9] or Gretorp or Chill or guys like them.

I don't think they would be too up for it, but if any of you can convince them I'm more than up for it. It could also be fun if I could guest appear on someone's casting stream sometimes - but other than my deep knowledge of general playing psychology, general game sense and intuitions - I don't really play or watch SC II all that eagerly, so I don't know how much I could add.

PS: Of course thanks for all the interest and support, guys. It goes without saying.
-{Cake}-
Profile Joined October 2010
United States217 Posts
December 02 2010 02:37 GMT
#97
Haha, haven't played chess in probably a year, but i really should get back to it

My suggestions:

for openings: The English
for other stuff: kinda random but, some type of explanation of what you are thinking while playing a game (what goes through your head on each move, some of the psychological type stuff)
1a2a3aPro
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada227 Posts
December 02 2010 05:10 GMT
#98
As a chess player and enthusiast... FUCK YES.

That is all.
WarChimp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia943 Posts
December 02 2010 05:38 GMT
#99
Damn! I would love to watch this!!!! but I used up my bandwidth and now I am on dial up speed not good!
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
December 02 2010 06:00 GMT
#100
after much thought, i'd like to request the Sämisch variation of the Nimzo-Indian. It leads to fierce attacks and there's variations that are being strongly contested right now. In particular, I'm very interested in this line:

5. bxc3, c5
6. e5!

ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
December 02 2010 06:01 GMT
#101
Omg, you+Gretorp would be GREAT. I understand Gretorp has a great background in chess too. :D TL Clash of the Streamers?
darkness overpowering
CfgosCuba
Profile Joined February 2010
Cuba94 Posts
December 04 2010 03:10 GMT
#102
thxz man
looking forward to watching ur stream
http://www.twitch.tv/cfgoscuba c terran hwaiting.. sc2 too ez, 4 days playing and Im already platinun..wtf.. fuck sc2. I uninstalled it.. www.youtube.com/user/cfgoscuba2
catamorphist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States297 Posts
December 04 2010 04:54 GMT
#103
Am I the only one that would prefer listening to Ng5 rather than to hear someone else alongside him who, in comparison, would be basically incompetent?

If Jaedong offered to stream and chat with viewers personally for 24 hours about Starcraft in English, would you want him to cast together with Tasteless?
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/281144/1/catamorphist/
DrSeRRoD
Profile Joined October 2010
United States490 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 23:43:34
December 04 2010 15:25 GMT
#104
Ng5, will this be recorded and saved as a VOD? I would like to store this for future lessons as well and watch it over a few days.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 05 2010 04:28 GMT
#105
broz0rs wrote:
5. bxc3, c5
6. e5!


You mean like 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. a3 Bxc3 5. bxc3 c5 6. e4 that goes on with 6... Qa5 7. e5? Because in case yes I did that before. It's one of those weird variations that can manage to be both complicated and incomplicated at the same time. I'll explain later.



And in regards to the Gretorp stuff - I actually contacted him and it would be nice if he could tag along a little - I think it should be fun.

Don't be so offensive, guys. It's a 24 hour so there will be plenty of me-time. It's just fun if you have guest appearances - that's what makes a fun show fun after all. And it also takes some stress off of my chords.

And it's a perfect way to make new friends - which is always awesome. Ever since I've come to the US I just love to meet new people.

Personally I've been fancying the idea to make a guest appearance at some SC II stream / tourney broadcast - if a chance arose I would gladly take it. Especially if it was a streamer/commentator I like or adore for some reason.

It's not like I'm any decent or I know the build orders - but that's why I would not be the host. On the other hand I think I have pretty neat insights into psychology in general and during a game - and through my experiences I can usually tell when there's a turning point in a game even if I don't have a freaking clue why. It's been the same with chess ten years ago. Or my job.

You never know when you meet such people - and small stuff like that can make your life so great. Things happen at the most random ways in life. If anyone I can tell you that.

So don't be scared. I can't think of more than one thing that could keep you from having enough chess content in that 24-hours.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 02:41:06
December 06 2010 02:38 GMT
#106
New guest. One of my friends WIM Ekaterina Ubiennykh will most likely join in for some games.
Kezzer
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1268 Posts
December 06 2010 14:05 GMT
#107
Really excited for this!
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
December 06 2010 15:08 GMT
#108
Ng5 i read through the OP and couldn't find a day for this :O

here is to hoping for the 18th or later
We talkin about PRACTICE
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
December 06 2010 22:47 GMT
#109
On December 05 2010 13:28 Ng5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
broz0rs wrote:
5. bxc3, c5
6. e5!


You mean like 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. a3 Bxc3 5. bxc3 c5 6. e4 that goes on with 6... Qa5 7. e5? Because in case yes I did that before. It's one of those weird variations that can manage to be both complicated and incomplicated at the same time. I'll explain later.


yes, I was mistaken. It is e4. It was played recently at a major tournament and the game was very exciting.

wow.. more distinguished guests? can't wait!
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 07 2010 01:53 GMT
#110
mprs wrote:
Ng5 i read through the OP and couldn't find a day for this :O


I'm almost entirely sure it is going to be the 18th, I just don't want to update that part until after all my exams are over. I have some technical difficulties, too - which I can only solve once that's done.


broz0rs wrote:
yes, I was mistaken. It is e4. It was played recently at a major tournament and the game was very exciting.


Can you tell me which tournament and which game? I can't really follow live events anymore and I kind of grew bored of them a while ago as well. I could talk about the particular game as well. The main line itself is a little too straightforward to my tastes.
Dieoxhide
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark53 Posts
December 11 2010 16:50 GMT
#111
Great! I was wondering about the date as well. I'm really looking forward to this. Maybe you should sing some Queen, or something from "Chess" - the musical. It would only be fitting... :D
'Ex nihilo nihil fit'
Serendipicus
Profile Joined August 2010
United States90 Posts
December 11 2010 19:21 GMT
#112
London Classic Chess Championship stream http://www.livestream.com/londonchessclassic

Magnus Carlson ftw.

I realize tournaments like chess is not related to sc2. But live stream links to tournaments like this would be super awesome. thanks
Can I ask you a question?
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 11 2010 19:34 GMT
#113
On December 07 2010 10:53 Ng5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
mprs wrote:
Ng5 i read through the OP and couldn't find a day for this :O


I'm almost entirely sure it is going to be the 18th, I just don't want to update that part until after all my exams are over. I have some technical difficulties, too - which I can only solve once that's done.


Show nested quote +
broz0rs wrote:
yes, I was mistaken. It is e4. It was played recently at a major tournament and the game was very exciting.


Can you tell me which tournament and which game? I can't really follow live events anymore and I kind of grew bored of them a while ago as well. I could talk about the particular game as well. The main line itself is a little too straightforward to my tastes.


epic day, GSL finals and 24hrs of chess :D

looking forward to it
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MoreFaSho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1427 Posts
December 11 2010 19:53 GMT
#114
BTW, as a little circle of life thing, I think Alejandro Ramirez works (or at least worked last summer) for blizzard!
I always try to shield slam face, just to make sure it doesnt work
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 14 2010 04:42 GMT
#115
Okay guys. The date is now officially the 18th!

Sorry I'm still being quite busy for now I won't be replying to the latest posts till tomorrow night, and that's the soonest I'll be able to properly update the OP as well.

I'm working on getting everything done and I might switch to JustintTV or Own3d for better quality streams. I heard Justin just had some new stuff going on which made screencapturing easier.

But don't worry - even if I won't be able to find the time to test all the new options I can still use my old LiveStream account.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 15 2010 01:58 GMT
#116
Updated OP. Announced date.

Please sign up to the simul if you are still interested.

If there is only a few volunteers I could try giving a simul with blind tables.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 15 2010 02:09 GMT
#117
Dieoxhide wrote:
... Maybe you should sing some Queen, or something from "Chess" - the musical. It would only be fitting... :D


'Checkmate, fool! - Cypress Hill

Nah to be honest whenever I get into my real chess rhythm the quote that comes to my mind...

I always like to show some decency, but music always brings out the beast in me. - Dead Celeb Status


Serendipicus wrote:
... I realize tournaments like chess is not related to sc2. But live stream links to tournaments like this would be super awesome. thanks


I tried doing that at the start of the semester with USCL. I think I had two streams on it, but I just couldn't keep up with the time. I think I should be able to stream more regulary in the future, but I don't want to promise anything since... Well if we are at quoting lyrics already...

This road I walk is paved with broken promises I made... - 3 Doors Down

emperorchampion wrote:
epic day, GSL finals and 24hrs of chess :D

looking forward to it


Actually I didn't know it was GSL finals, but I was sure I would collide with something bigger.

That's the only day I can really do it well, though, so I don't have much choice.


MoreFasho wrote:
BTW, as a little circle of life thing, I think Alejandro Ramirez works (or at least worked last summer) for blizzard!


I think that's how he heard about the whole stuff, probably then. Or at least connected.
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
December 15 2010 02:49 GMT
#118
Do you know what site the simul will be played on?
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 15 2010 02:55 GMT
#119
Is there a timeline, so we know when certain things will be happening, or is it just gonna be whatever you feel like?
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 15 2010 02:55 GMT
#120
Mothra wrote:
Do you know what site the simul will be played on?


Yep.

ICC. You can just make a trial account for a week for free. It has a nice interface that makes it easy on me to set up the simul, or just bother an admin to help me with it.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 03:45:46
December 15 2010 03:04 GMT
#121
emperorchampion wrote:
Is there a timeline, so we know when certain things will be happening, or is it just gonna be whatever you feel like?


Tomorrow evening I will send a PM out to all the signed up players for the simul to do it when everyone is available.

Other than that I plan to start it up with some random talk. Maybe some game analysis mixed in with playing chess or talking about a particular opening. Later when GSL is over and more people tune in I will cover more analysis on games and more popular openings. Maybe I will even play more.

Later in the afternoon as I'll be getting more tired and it will be the best for everyone (afternoon in NA, evening/night in EU) I would switch to more theory. Talk about psychology, how to prepare for games, how to work out your openings. Why talent is still bigger than engines.

I will probably also freestyle because I just can't prepare a full 24 hours in advance and my schedule is very tight up till Friday actually. This can mean anything - from digging up my old pgns for interesting games and position (I have hundreds of those) to just randomly watching better players and give insight on actual running games real time.

I really want to do this later thing. Commenting on actual games or digging up pgns. I want to show you real time where my thinking is different from most people. Where I don't waste time or where I do, because I think it would be interesting for you on one hand, and on the other hand you would probably like to hear it.

So yes I have vague plans, but nothing is written 100% in stone. If you can only watch for a few hours and you really want to see something you can just PM mer or write here and I'll try to cover those parts when you are around. If it doesn't happen I will just mess with loading it all up as vods later.

PS: One thing about VODs though. It might or might not happen within the next three weeks due to me going home to my family. But I will definitely try doing it ASAP and you won't be missing anything in the long run.

Edit: I'll try to add an approximated timetable, but I really can't promise it will happen before the event starts. What I know for sure is LittlePeasant will have a tourney that day, so he'll probably only be on in the evening NA time. While Ekaterina is in Siberia and she'll probably only be on during the first few hours of my stream and then possibly later at night.

Edit 2: While I can't promise to make bigger updates and timetable, but I will be around the PC more for the next couple of days, so I'll be able to give quick replies spattered around the day. I'll probably spam my own thread just to keep it up in the list.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 15 2010 04:29 GMT
#122
Ok sweet, so basically I'm gonna be pulling an all-nighter watching GSL then chess all day
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Versita
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1032 Posts
December 15 2010 04:33 GMT
#123
cool, i'll watch the stream after getting home on saturday
darthcaesar
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States475 Posts
December 15 2010 04:43 GMT
#124
Will ther be a VOD? I'm goign to be on the move that day T_T
He is wisest who knows he does not know. | (┛OДO)┛彡┻━┻
EPO
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada341 Posts
December 15 2010 05:32 GMT
#125
will check this out for sure.
Rikk
Profile Joined April 2010
Bahrain31 Posts
December 15 2010 07:17 GMT
#126
It would be nice to dedicate some time to teaching stuff that are categorized as "beyond the basics". Helping people like me who just started taking an interest in chess, but have no idea where to start to improve =/
"That's Halo, don't worry" -HuK
Cralis
Profile Joined November 2010
4 Posts
December 15 2010 17:41 GMT
#127
Totally awesome, will definately check this out. The GM showing up is pretty cool .
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 15 2010 19:07 GMT
#128
darthcaesar wrote:
Will ther be a VOD? I'm goign to be on the move that day T_T


That's what I was saying around the end of my last message. I'm flying home barely thirty hours after the stream ends, so the VOD section might only come in mid-January. But if I can find the time between family and studies I will get it done from home.
The reason for the delay has another reason. I want to do some good editing if I can. Maybe I won't from the get go only later, but I want to cut it into little parts so if you only want to re-watch a certain half hour or certain event you could. It should be a lot of work and I really can't promise to get it done like ever... But I hope I will be able to.


Rikk wrote:
It would be nice to dedicate some time to teaching stuff that are categorized as "beyond the basics". Helping people like me who just started taking an interest in chess, but have no idea where to start to improve =/


My ideas about teaching might differ in basic points from what most others would tell you - I'll talk about it more on stream - but I can really only tell you to play and play while you enjoy the game. That will do you the best. Also watch out that you never do it as a burden. It will do you no good at all.

Other than that you might not feel while listening to me, but every small thing I - or anyone else - tells you is important and is improving you. I also am positive that I can make my explanations enjoy- and understandable for players with less knowledge. Sometimes you don't remember it or you can't recall it an hour later, but it stays there in your memory - well hidden of course.

So basically my advice is - come and try to enjoy the stream. And don't ever be afraid to ask questions. I love to answer questions and I'll be there for 24 hours.
Penke
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden346 Posts
December 15 2010 19:12 GMT
#129
I will definitely watch this, have to fit it in around the GSL finals though. :D

Why does it say december 18 two times in the OP? :S
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
December 16 2010 00:13 GMT
#130
So bummed I cant watch this Hopefully more of these will come in the future. gl hf!
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
December 16 2010 00:17 GMT
#131
Okay, according to my local time, the stream begins on Saturday Dec 18 at 5 pm, but December 18th is a Sunday. Can anyone tell me how many days until this starts?
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
DrSeRRoD
Profile Joined October 2010
United States490 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 00:47:40
December 16 2010 00:46 GMT
#132
On December 16 2010 09:17 Salivanth wrote:
Okay, according to my local time, the stream begins on Saturday Dec 18 at 5 pm, but December 18th is a Sunday. Can anyone tell me how many days until this starts?


December 18th is Saturday. The stream, according to the OP, starts at 1am EST this Saturday. I'd say it will start at 5pm on Sunday for you as you are 16 hours ahead.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 16 2010 01:49 GMT
#133
About all the dates. It has two date lines in the OP because I tried using the convert to local time function, but it was a little buggy for me, so I tried giving it in EST and CET both. It just happens to convert them both into your actual local time.

It will be Saturday - 18th is Saturday, I know I'm flying home on Monday the 20th.

It's 1 am EST and 7 am CET.

I'm thinking up what to cook up on Friday so I'll have it done on Saturday. Maybe some pancakes, but still wondering about the main meal.
Dr. Von Derful
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States363 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 19:35:17
December 16 2010 19:26 GMT
#134
I'm excited for this event, I even registered on TL for the occasion instead of just lurking and watching streams. Any chance I could see some review of the Sokolsky opening? Specifically 1. b4 c6. And since you're already doing a review of the Caro-Kann (Advanced) could we see 1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 c5 instead of Bf5?
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
December 17 2010 02:15 GMT
#135
craziness

will tune in when i can
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 17 2010 06:02 GMT
#136
Okay so far it seems the simul is going to be after 4 pm EST. I still need to get feedback from half of the players. If it's not good for them that time I'll just give two smaller simuls, no problem.

I'm still wondering if I could manage a blind simul against this many people. Would probably a take a longer time control though.
MageSoren
Profile Joined April 2010
United States53 Posts
December 17 2010 06:05 GMT
#137
Ng5, can I play you in a regular blitz game or something sometime during that 24 hr timeline you have? Although I'm not that strong of a player....I just thought this was intriguing.
Hiya!
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 17 2010 06:11 GMT
#138
MageSoren wrote:
Ng5, can I play you in a regular blitz game or something sometime during that 24 hr timeline you have? Although I'm not that strong of a player....I just thought this was intriguing.


Sure. Just be on and ask on channel and it should be more than fine.

I think I will stick to LiveStream for this occasion since I don't have time to check out the other streams.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 17 2010 15:58 GMT
#139
One quick question.

Since this is basically free and volunteer - is it legal to just listen to my or YouTube's random music in the background?

Otherways. Get yourself ready.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 18 2010 01:10 GMT
#140
Okay guys. I need to sign off and get ready and maybe take a small nap.

Get yourself ready - and also: keep checking the OP when it starts because I might switch streams to own3d in the last minute, so I my channel might not be listed as featured for a few hours after start.

Stay tuned and hang on!
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 18 2010 01:14 GMT
#141
On December 18 2010 10:10 Ng5 wrote:
Okay guys. I need to sign off and get ready and maybe take a small nap.

Get yourself ready - and also: keep checking the OP when it starts because I might switch streams to own3d in the last minute, so I my channel might not be listed as featured for a few hours after start.

Stay tuned and hang on!


Aight, I'm ready!

Totally set for Chess and Starcraft tomorrow! :D
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 18 2010 04:57 GMT
#142
Last hour.

Let me take a quick shower and try something with own3d quick and I'll be ready to go.

If there's half an hour delay it's purely due to technical reason. Don't worry, I'll be here soon enough.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
December 18 2010 05:09 GMT
#143
Excited to see this
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
noveyak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States35 Posts
December 18 2010 06:01 GMT
#144
WHERE IS STREAM *just kidding*

Cant wait for this to start =) This should be great
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 18 2010 06:02 GMT
#145
Very short technical break I need. Messing with own3d so I can give you better quality and more options.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 18 2010 06:18 GMT
#146
Ok screw it. Going back to ProCaster because it doesn't work. I'll go live at :30 - hopefully.
LTT
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Shakuras1095 Posts
December 18 2010 06:33 GMT
#147
It's up. Hooray!
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 18 2010 07:09 GMT
#148
Awesome... ng5 always delivers... definitely looking forward to this...
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-18 07:23:09
December 18 2010 07:18 GMT
#149
I've already lost track of everything in this blind chess match...

is there an IRC channel I'm not aware of?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
mapignon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States23 Posts
December 18 2010 10:34 GMT
#150
the stream is awesome! Thanks for the chess! I will be back to watch more later
kucing
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1 Post
December 18 2010 16:17 GMT
#151
Thanks for the stream. I enjoyed it thoroughly, especially when you were crushing the IMs and GMs.
maximuspita
Profile Joined April 2010
1093 Posts
December 19 2010 01:57 GMT
#152
I hope this is recorded. Looks awesome from the OP alone.
Korean Air, please save Fox.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 19 2010 02:54 GMT
#153
I can't keep it up due to some technical difficulties. But just to stay true blue I will play Desert Strike in the next 3 hours to make it a complete 24.

Have a great holiday everyone!

Take care of yourself and your family.

See you all.

<3
durza
Profile Joined August 2009
United States667 Posts
December 19 2010 03:46 GMT
#154
On December 19 2010 11:54 Ng5 wrote:
I can't keep it up due to some technical difficulties. But just to stay true blue I will play Desert Strike in the next 3 hours to make it a complete 24.

Have a great holiday everyone!

Take care of yourself and your family.

See you all.

<3

I know I already did after you crushed me during the simul, however, I want to thank you again for doing this. It was really fun to watch high level play, and I hope you do it again some time.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 19 2010 04:21 GMT
#155
On December 18 2010 16:18 Zona wrote:
I've already lost track of everything in this blind chess match...

is there an IRC channel I'm not aware of?


The blind match was pretty awesome. The Simul was definitely the best event of the stream, what was the final score? I think Ng5 lost one, drew one, then won the rest- out of like 8 games or something lol.

Very nice event.

<3
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 19 2010 05:38 GMT
#156
Mission accomplished.

Bed awaits.

PS: Played the most awesome Desert Strike ever.
EvilNalu
Profile Joined May 2010
United States91 Posts
December 19 2010 06:04 GMT
#157
On December 19 2010 13:21 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 16:18 Zona wrote:
I've already lost track of everything in this blind chess match...

is there an IRC channel I'm not aware of?


The blind match was pretty awesome. The Simul was definitely the best event of the stream, what was the final score? I think Ng5 lost one, drew one, then won the rest- out of like 8 games or something lol.

Very nice event.

<3


I believe he went 8 wins, 2 draws, 1 loss. Definitely a very fun event - please let us know when the next one is Ng5!
hype[NZ]
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Japan412 Posts
December 19 2010 06:17 GMT
#158
Yeah thanks for doing this, it was great fun. The simul was especially cool
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
December 19 2010 16:55 GMT
#159
Was great, thanks! I enjoy your sense of humor.
DrSeRRoD
Profile Joined October 2010
United States490 Posts
December 19 2010 17:50 GMT
#160
Great stream Ng5, it was a pleasure to watch what I could. I look forward to having a VOD (hopefully) that I can watch or download and re-watch over a few days during my chess 'self training'!
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
December 19 2010 23:17 GMT
#161
Thanks for the event and t he stream Ng5, that was pretty fun and getting destroyed during the simul as well (tho I think I had a small lead in the middle of the game, still ahve to run the analysis on that game ;o )
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
December 20 2010 02:52 GMT
#162
Anywhere I can get this?
Was pumped to watch it, then ended up having to do stuff all day yesterday :/
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
December 20 2010 14:28 GMT
#163
Didn't get a chance to watch as much as I would have liked, but every time I tuned in it was awesome. Nice job & thanks!
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Splunge
Profile Joined July 2008
Germany925 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 11:06:32
December 20 2010 14:33 GMT
#164
yeah thx a lot for this event! It was very interesting to watch you play.
Serendipicus
Profile Joined August 2010
United States90 Posts
December 22 2010 22:34 GMT
#165
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/22/samuel-sevian-9-becomes-y_n_800431.html

9 year old becomes youngest chess master with 2201 elo.

Pic:
http://www.bayareachess.com/images/sevianx360x360.jpg

incredible, gl to this young guy!
Can I ask you a question?
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
December 23 2010 00:13 GMT
#166
I've just realized that I did not analyse games you've sent to me in PMs.

I will do so later in my free time and post here or in a PM to you - whichever you'd prefer to.

I also want to thank anyone who turned up for tuning in again.
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
January 22 2011 13:10 GMT
#167
I only now got around to catch my breath. I'll download it all and start cutting it up.

This one I could easier put on YouTube. As for the later ones I'll need to carefully read the ToS on IP rights.

Hopefully I can start up a weekly or two-weekly stream in the near future, but I don't want to promise anything yet.

Thanks for all the patience.

<3
Ng5
Profile Joined December 2009
702 Posts
February 01 2011 03:58 GMT
#168
I don't have the internet to upload this. They promised me to repair it in two weeks - but they did so three months ago as well.

It's a new guy this time, though. He'll probably get shit done.

Sorry for all the delay. It's non intentional.

Once the net gets back kicking I'll start streaming again, too.
Nosmo
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada210 Posts
February 01 2011 04:49 GMT
#169
Thanks for trying to upload it. I'm still waiting to watch the 24 marathon, I missed most of it.
Good luck!
Killer next Bonjwa//Much is also good//Savior what happened//Fuck yeah, Nal_ra!
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