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xLethargicax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States469 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 15:44:57
October 12 2010 04:13 GMT
#1
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I believe I need to draw attention to this old, beautiful game. Arcanum is a game I was lucky enough to randomly stumble on years and years ago, and if I had not, I would have missed out on one of the most original and stimulating games I've ever played.




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I am very poor with descriptions so I will do my best to describe what I think is important, but along the way I will be posting snippets of writing from a forum member named, "ForceflowX" whom I do not personally know, but I like how he approached the game.

First things first, Arcanum is a steam punk-fantasy RPG designed by much of the same people who created Fallout, Troika Games and published by Sierra Entertainment. The game was released in North America and Europe in August 2001. The beautiful part about this game in my eyes is how open it is. The game is entirely open ended and non linear. What you did 40 hours ago, can directly affect what happens to you in the moment your in.

I would do this game a serious injustice if I tried to explain how diverse it can be and how many options there are in this game, so instead of trying to list them all, I will list how it works.

For your character alone you have,

Races

Eight different races, all with different advantages and base stats.
Human - Typical humans. No bonuses, No flaws.
Elf - Quicker and more beautiful, but weaker and frailer. has an aptitude for magic and a technical deficiency.
Dwarf - Sturdier and stronger, but clumsier and less charismatic. Very good with tech, but horrible with magic.
Half-Elf - Elf, with lesser versions of the same bonuses and penalties elves have.
Gnome - Frail, but strong-willed and good at dealing with people.
Halfling - Weak, but agile and with a knack for sneakery.
Half-Orc - Strong, tough, good with melee combat, and resistant to poison, but ugly and uncouth. Also, people dislike you.
Half-Ogre - Very strong and resistant to damage, but ugly and dumb as bricks. People really dislike you.

Gender:
Gender does have a mechanical impact on your character.

Background:
Background is absolutely huge. Backgrounds give you bonuses and penalties to your character, and are neat little bits of flavor.


For backgrounds, I will quote ForceflowX, "
I'm too lazy to type all of the descriptions out, but I'll list the names,

Raised By Snake Handlers
Apprenticed To A Blacksmith
Raised By Elves
Raised By Monks
Child Of A Hero
Inheritance
Special Person
Professional Knife Tosser
Apprenticed To A Shopkeeper
Born Under A Sign
Extreme Personality
Bookworm
Bully
Elven Blood
Hyperactive
Army Training
Sheltered Childood
Troll Offspring
Ran Away With The Circus
Raised In The Pits
Feral Child
Sickly
Beat With An Ugly Stick
Lady's Man(Male Only)
Raised By Orcs
Charlatan's Protege
Educator
Escaped Lunatic
Idiot Savant
Barbarian
Nietzsche Poster Child
Sold Your Soul
Day/Night/Sky/Nature Mage
Agoraphobic
Hydrophobic
Afraid Of The Dark
Magick Allergy
Arsonist
Bandit
Technophobia
Only Child
Frankenstein Monster(Male Only)
Mad Doctor
Miracle Operation
Dark Sight
Sent To Charm School(Female Only)
Debutante(Female Only)
Supermodel(Female Only)
Tomboy(Female Only)
Bride of Frankenstein(Female Only)
Clanless Dwarf(Dwarf Only)
Foppish Elf(Elf Only)
Dark Elf Follower(Elf Only)
Disenfranchised Gnome(Gnome Only)
Halfling Orphan(Halfling Only)
Factory Escapee(Half-Orc Only)
Suppressed Orcish Looks(Half-Orc Only)
Tough Hide(Half-Orc or Half-Ogre Only)
Freed Bodyguard(Half-Ogre Only)
Wild Half-Ogre(Half-Ogre Only)
Rare Half-Ogre Birth(Half-Ogre Only)


That is just the very first character screen, the very, very, first.


Upon creating your character, you then have five points to spend in your attributes. There are a ridiculous amount of things to spend your points in, but there are eight different stats. There is,


Stats:
Strength, Constitution, Dexterity, Beauty, Intelligence, Willpower, Perception, and Charisma. All of these will directly influence how people treat you, and how your game plays, and how your character is built.


There are also sixteen skills in four different groups. The groups are Combat, Thieving, Social, and Technological.

Skills:

Combat - Bow, Dodge, Melee, and Throwing.
Thieving - Prowl, Pickpocket, Backstab, and Spot Trap. ( as a side note, if you do pickpocket + pick locks, you can literally break into any shop at night and steal their wares if your good enough. )
Social - Gambling, Haggle, Heal, and Persuasion.
Technological - Repair, Firearms, Pick Locks, and Disarm Traps. Putting points into Technological shifts your aptitude to tech, however.



from ForceFlowX,
Aptitude:
Speaking of magical/mechanical aptitude, I should explain that now. In Arcanum, magic and tech are opposed forces. Being proficient in spells will make it harder for tech items to work on you, and vice versa. Now, this is a blessing and a curse, because it applies to everything, from the spell or gun that bandit just threw at you, to the healing spell or salve your teammate is using to keep you alive. You can balance it by taking both spells and tech skills, but most people like to dive into one or the other.


There are sixteen different colleges of magic to work from.


Spells:
The colleges are Conveyance, Divination, Air, Earth, Fire, Water, Force, Mental, Meta, Morph, Nature, Necromantic Black, Necromantic White, Phantasm, Summoning, and Temporal. Each containing five spells.

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To counteract the spell colleges, since everything is set magic versus technology, technological characters have, disciplines.

Disciplines:
The disciplines are Herbology, Chemistry, Electricity, Explosives, Gunsmithy, Mechanical, Smithy, and Theraputics. There are less disciplines than college's of magic, however each discipline has seven things to learn.


And that is just during character creation.. Some other things to note,
-The game has a 24 hour day/night cycle, which can be fast forwarded if you sleep.
-The game's map is monstrous
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My personal favorite part of the game is the music. I forgot to include this in my original post, but this games scoring is so beautiful and elegant. As a composition major, take my word, these are brilliant pieces!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftvpi-6Z6qw



Important Edit - If you are interested in playing it and are down about the bugs, go to http://www.terra-arcanum.com/ there are unofficial community patches that fixed and polished the game up.
So, in closing, I have a few things to say ; How many of you fellow TLers have played this game? And how many want to?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
October 12 2010 04:21 GMT
#2
I own the game. I bought it shortly after it was released. It was way too buggy, I tried to play it for a bit but I just couldn't handle the bugs so I gave up on it. I've heard they've since made it much better, though.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 04:25:55
October 12 2010 04:23 GMT
#3
Omg i'm playing this game atm :D

Can you make a list of all the good mods/patchs ?
I have tried to install some resolution mod but it makes everything crash :<

edit: Amazing game even if it is not beautiful and has a really clunky UI.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 04:34:17
October 12 2010 04:34 GMT
#4
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAASSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHH

One of my favorite RPGs ever. Thanks for making a thread. I still wuv my retard ogre :D
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Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 04:36:00
October 12 2010 04:35 GMT
#5
Download the unofficial patch(mostly created by ex decs), then the widescreen/high res pack, enjoy the greatest game ever created :D

I think it was like $4 on gog.com on the weekend, well, well worth it.
Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
October 12 2010 04:35 GMT
#6
I've always wanted to play this game. Is it on GoG.com?
It's easier not to.
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
October 12 2010 04:51 GMT
#7
so is it a massive multiplayer? or is it just a SP?
xLethargicax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States469 Posts
October 12 2010 04:53 GMT
#8
On October 12 2010 13:51 emc wrote:
so is it a massive multiplayer? or is it just a SP?


It's a SP. But apparently at one point in time it supported multiplayer. It's the only single player game i've ever really loved, besides the cult classics.

TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 05:01:32
October 12 2010 04:54 GMT
#9
On October 12 2010 13:23 Boblion wrote:
Omg i'm playing this game atm :D

Can you make a list of all the good mods/patchs ?
I have tried to install some resolution mod but it makes everything crash :<

edit: Amazing game even if it is not beautiful and has a really clunky UI.

Probably should have sent you this when you first said you were playing it. w/e

http://terra-arcanum.com/downloads/

Used to be the best place to get Arcanum stuff, but IIRC the owner had some sort of drama so projects got discontinued. Still, they have some stuff worth looking at, the biggest being the unofficial patch for bugfixes, and the high quality maps/music + high res mod for making the game a little less ugly.

There's probably a rebalancing mod somewhere out there, but I'm too lazy to test them thoroughly. The character system is a bit daunting at first.

For those just starting out--the best way to enjoy your first playthrough is probably as a character heavily invested in social stats (intelligence, perception, charisma, plus the relevant skills), with enough magic to get by in combat. The game really is not that combat-centric, and if you don't put enough emphasis on the social aspects, you will miss a lot of content on your first playthrough. As far as magic vs. technology, magic is stronger, but technology is more fun (you get penalized for splitting yourself up too much between both)--the first time through some of the early fights might trip you up as a technologist, and you have to gather some materials/schematics to get by.

On October 12 2010 13:13 xLethargicax wrote: sleep.
-The game's map is monstrous

To expand on this: there are quick travel options, but they are largely for convenience--every outdoor area is mapped out, and you can slow-travel throughout the entire map (though lots of wilderness is pretty monotonous).
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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
October 12 2010 05:03 GMT
#10
I remember buying this game when it first came out.. god I spent soooo much time on it that it's not even funny. I loved the hell out of this game. Hell when I saw this thread I just had to read it and respond! It's on my top ten that's for damn sure!

Also I can't believe you didn't talk about the music! Listen to this! Check out the opening track for frells sake!
+ Show Spoiler +


The music for this game kept me so happy and content for such a long time that relistening to it now brings a smile and a tear. Arcanum was and is one of the best games I've ever played! God now I want to find my copy and play it again.

Op you get a medal. thank you for reminding me of this game.
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O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
October 12 2010 05:08 GMT
#11
On October 12 2010 13:54 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 13:23 Boblion wrote:
Omg i'm playing this game atm :D

Can you make a list of all the good mods/patchs ?
I have tried to install some resolution mod but it makes everything crash :<

edit: Amazing game even if it is not beautiful and has a really clunky UI.

Probably should have sent you this when you first said you were playing it. w/e

http://terra-arcanum.com/downloads/

Used to be the best place to get Arcanum stuff, but IIRC the owner had some sort of drama so projects got discontinued. Still, they have some stuff worth looking at, the biggest being the unofficial patch for bugfixes, and the high quality maps/music + high res mod for making the game a little less ugly.

There's probably a rebalancing mod somewhere out there, but I'm too lazy to test them thoroughly. The character system is a bit daunting at first.

For those just starting out--the best way to enjoy your first playthrough is probably as a character heavily invested in social stats (intelligence, perception, charisma, plus the relevant skills), with enough magic to get by in combat. The game really is not that combat-centric, and if you don't put enough emphasis on the social aspects, you will miss a lot of content on your first playthrough. As far as magic vs. technology, magic is stronger, but technology is more fun (you get penalized for splitting yourself up too much between both)--the first time through some of the early fights might trip you up as a technologist, and you have to gather some materials/schematics to get by.

Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 13:13 xLethargicax wrote: sleep.
-The game's map is monstrous

To expand on this: there are quick travel options, but they are largely for convenience--every outdoor area is mapped out, and you can slow-travel throughout the entire map (though lots of wilderness is pretty monotonous).


Ever try crossing the stonewall mountain manually?
Fan of the Jangbanger
xLethargicax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States469 Posts
October 12 2010 05:48 GMT
#12
On October 12 2010 14:03 Parnage wrote:
I remember buying this game when it first came out.. god I spent soooo much time on it that it's not even funny. I loved the hell out of this game. Hell when I saw this thread I just had to read it and respond! It's on my top ten that's for damn sure!

Also I can't believe you didn't talk about the music! Listen to this! Check out the opening track for frells sake!
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWjbWuXZA5w


The music for this game kept me so happy and content for such a long time that relistening to it now brings a smile and a tear. Arcanum was and is one of the best games I've ever played! God now I want to find my copy and play it again.

Op you get a medal. thank you for reminding me of this game.


Thank you! the embarrassing part is, I got inspired to make this thread after listening to the music. I am a music composition major at IU, and thats why I love it so much. I just forgot to include, thanks for reminding!
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
October 12 2010 05:53 GMT
#13
Magic and tech generally don't get along, but there is one big exception to this rule and that is the college of temporal magic. Your magical aptitude has absolutely no effect on temporal spells, or at least not the two imba ones.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Jopz
Profile Joined January 2008
United States262 Posts
October 12 2010 06:18 GMT
#14
Because I was bored, I tried walking through the wilderness from the zeppelin crash site to the first town, and managed to make in around 20 minutes of clicking.

I tried doing the same from the first town to Tarant but gave up after an hour=(.
KasPra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Estonia983 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 13:01:24
October 12 2010 13:00 GMT
#15
Hell yes! Arcanum is seriously one of my favourite games ever. And the music is indeed fantastic!

I tried to play multiplayer with a friend some time ago but as i remember it was horribly bugged. Maybe it was just our version though.
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
October 12 2010 13:11 GMT
#16
On October 12 2010 22:00 KasPra wrote:
Hell yes! Arcanum is seriously one of my favourite games ever. And the music is indeed fantastic!

I tried to play multiplayer with a friend some time ago but as i remember it was horribly bugged. Maybe it was just our version though.


The game overall is pretty buggy, I've tried playing it a few times but I always give up after a few days because of the crashes.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
October 12 2010 13:27 GMT
#17
You just need to patch it up and download some of the content/fix mods. It gets pretty stable after that.
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trucane
Profile Joined January 2009
United States553 Posts
October 12 2010 13:51 GMT
#18
One of my favorite all time games. It's really a unique RPG which everyone should have played.
scaeb
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland11 Posts
October 12 2010 13:55 GMT
#19
Reinstalled it when I saw the title.

I recommend everyone to patch to 1.0.7.4, I haven't had any problems playing Arcanum after installing that patch, and also the unofficial patch with the resolution fixer. Awesome game, I think I'll go magic this time, went with a gun build last time. It was pretty great. Seriously, everyone who likes fallouts & baldur's gates, this is a must. GL HF!
metal heavy, soft at the core
Fraidnot
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States824 Posts
October 12 2010 13:57 GMT
#20
Pro tip for everyone thinking about playing this game: Make sure Virgil holds onto all your important quest items and best gear.
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