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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 21:22:51
May 01 2011 21:22 GMT
#781
@JSH

Omg it's a full EoSD post omg omg

with great art too :D

Will make a new playlist, thanks again !


Edit: BTW DO YOU GUYS PLAY OSU! ?

If not we should! And play a lot of touhou songs on there together ofc ^_^ Great way to share music.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 21:55:07
May 01 2011 21:26 GMT
#782
On May 02 2011 06:22 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
@Aeres


Fixed

Want to give credit to whom it's due :D

love the playlist Aeres, listening through them now~
Especially liked Beloved Tomboyish Girl ,The Maid and the Pocket Watch of Blood, and Septette :>

Funny thing was I was planning to post that Locked Girl remix by Sound Sepher but decided not to yesterday haha

On May 02 2011 06:22 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:

Edit: BTW DO YOU GUYS PLAY OSU! ?

If not we should! And play a lot of touhou songs on there together ofc ^_^ Great way to share music.


Yeah :D
we should play~
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
May 02 2011 00:22 GMT
#783
Yukari takes a bit of time off of maintaining the borders to groove.

+ Show Spoiler [Necrofantasia] +

Also, a nice bit of artwork here. Marisa with short hair... interesting.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 02:10:28
May 02 2011 02:09 GMT
#784
Yukari takes breaks all the time sleeping

Been listening to those Jazz remixes eh Aeres
Interesting, never heard of "JazzStep" but it has a nice rhythm to it

Jazzy remix for you~
+ Show Spoiler +
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 02:14:25
May 02 2011 02:13 GMT
#785
Omg sorry, I even typed Aeres at first then changed to JSH <_> fail

Thanks Aeres

Osu! - Btw my username is Yoshi Kirishima
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 02:16:45
May 02 2011 02:15 GMT
#786
On May 02 2011 11:09 JSH wrote:
Yukari takes breaks all the time sleeping

Been listening to those Jazz remixes eh Aeres
Interesting, never heard of "JazzStep" but it has a nice rhythm to it

Jazzy remix for you~
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkXw36aDWDA

Yeah, my dad is a huge fan of jazz, and lately it's been growing on me. :D And that Border of Life is incredible. Thanks for sharing!!

Here's a pretty nice Cinderella Cage, from EastNewSound. They're quickly becoming one of my favorite circles.

+ Show Spoiler +

By the way, stop spamming posts, you two! You guys passed me already.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
ThatBronyGuy
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States169 Posts
May 02 2011 02:20 GMT
#787
Thanks a ton for the links. I always appreciate good music to listen to even while just working in the office. I'm one of those weird people who can't seem to do anything without some white noise in the background. I'm especially open to listening to great video game music, remixes, etc. in those listening sessions as well, so this station is great.
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 02:25:25
May 02 2011 02:25 GMT
#788
On May 02 2011 11:15 Aeres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 11:09 JSH wrote:
Yukari takes breaks all the time sleeping

Been listening to those Jazz remixes eh Aeres
Interesting, never heard of "JazzStep" but it has a nice rhythm to it

Jazzy remix for you~
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkXw36aDWDA

Yeah, my dad is a huge fan of jazz, and lately it's been growing on me. :D And that Border of Life is incredible. Thanks for sharing!!

Here's a pretty nice Cinderella Cage, from EastNewSound. They're quickly becoming one of my favorite circles.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGI5Wwbg3Eg

By the way, stop spamming posts, you two! You guys passed me already.

ehehe 2k here I come

On May 02 2011 11:13 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:

Osu! - Btw my username is Yoshi Kirishima


get on so I can add you
My user name is JSH

On May 02 2011 11:20 I_am_that_bad wrote:
Thanks a ton for the links. I always appreciate good music to listen to even while just working in the office. I'm one of those weird people who can't seem to do anything without some white noise in the background. I'm especially open to listening to great video game music, remixes, etc. in those listening sessions as well, so this station is great.


glad you are enjoying the music~
perhaps if you missed it, here is a link to Touhou Player
http://touhou.kuukunen.net/

Awesome stuff
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 04:13:59
May 02 2011 04:12 GMT
#789
Hey guys, posted this on RedLunatic forums but i'll post it here too;

This is about how ZUN chooses to have his music off-key and my frustrations as a touhou-pianist.

Ok guys is it just me or is it very annoying that ZUN seems to have all his songs "off-key" by a quarter step???

For example, if you turn on "WAV" for sound settings in game, if you change it to "MIDI" you'll notice that the pitch is "fixed" or moved up half a (half) step.

This gets really annoying if you want to play an arrangement of a Touhou song while keeping the key to be the same, since you can't really translate it with the WAV; if you do you'll be a quarter step too high or too low.

What do you guys consider to be the "right" key? The MIDI version? The "WAV" version (translate it 1 quarter step down)?
And anyone have an idea why he chose to do this?

Idk if the soundtracks are closer to the step above or below.



For those of you who may not know, keys are important to keeping the "feel" or atmosphere/mood/tone of the song. Even more frustrating is that you cannot play notes that are not on your instrument (piano), of course, so it is impossible to keep the exact feel that ZUN made for each of his songs (the default music settings are on WAV, so I assume that is how he wants you to hear them).

I'm sure my perfect-pitch friend would die from listening to Touhou music unless he changed the settings to MIDI (nice call ZUN).
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
May 02 2011 04:30 GMT
#790
On May 02 2011 13:12 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Hey guys, posted this on RedLunatic forums but i'll post it here too;

This is about how ZUN chooses to have his music off-key and my frustrations as a touhou-pianist.

Show nested quote +
Ok guys is it just me or is it very annoying that ZUN seems to have all his songs "off-key" by a quarter step???

For example, if you turn on "WAV" for sound settings in game, if you change it to "MIDI" you'll notice that the pitch is "fixed" or moved up half a (half) step.

This gets really annoying if you want to play an arrangement of a Touhou song while keeping the key to be the same, since you can't really translate it with the WAV; if you do you'll be a quarter step too high or too low.

What do you guys consider to be the "right" key? The MIDI version? The "WAV" version (translate it 1 quarter step down)?
And anyone have an idea why he chose to do this?

Idk if the soundtracks are closer to the step above or below.



For those of you who may not know, keys are important to keeping the "feel" or atmosphere/mood/tone of the song. Even more frustrating is that you cannot play notes that are not on your instrument (piano), of course, so it is impossible to keep the exact feel that ZUN made for each of his songs (the default music settings are on WAV, so I assume that is how he wants you to hear them).

I'm sure my perfect-pitch friend would die from listening to Touhou music unless he changed the settings to MIDI (nice call ZUN).


Really so the WAV version is out of tune?

Wow...
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
May 02 2011 04:32 GMT
#791
Doesn't affect me, I play drums. :D
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 04:35:28
May 02 2011 04:34 GMT
#792
haha xD lucky

but for me,

T_T and frustration. Or you guys could help me decide whether to learn the MIDI version or the other way from now on :D

(heheh if you ever look up touhou music, and pick like 10 piano arrangements of the same song, you'll see that there will be two prominent keys and a couple random ones...)
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
May 02 2011 04:39 GMT
#793
On May 02 2011 13:34 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
haha xD lucky

but for me,

T_T and frustration. Or you guys could help me decide whether to learn the MIDI version or the other way from now on :D

(heheh if you ever look up touhou music, and pick like 10 piano arrangements of the same song, you'll see that there will be two prominent keys and a couple random ones...)

Well you can't really play your instrument according to the wav pitches then
Unless you like physically tune your instrument half a key down or whatever

so just play the midi tune or transcribe to another key :>
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 04:44:29
May 02 2011 04:43 GMT
#794
Haha. I should get my piano tuned to ZUN's tuning. Then I have a bonus over all other touhou pianists ^_^ uahahahha

jk. I'll just do the MIDI version from now on. It's just sad that the arrangers have to have such disagreeing opinions, and transcribing a good arrangement into the "right" key takes a bit of time.

JSH do u happen to play guitar? Then you me and Aeres can... make Touhou band videos :D :D :D (play separately and edit them together).
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 04:46:52
May 02 2011 04:46 GMT
#795
On May 02 2011 13:43 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Haha. I should get my piano tuned to ZUN's tuning. Then I have a bonus over all other touhou pianists ^_^ uahahahha

jk. I'll just do the MIDI version from now on. It's just sad that the arrangers have to have such disagreeing opinions, and transcribing a good arrangement into the "right" key takes a bit of time.

JSH do u happen to play guitar? Then you me and Aeres can... make Touhou band videos :D :D :D (play separately and edit them together).


No unfortunately
I play Violin and Drums

I want to learn the bass guitar though

And this is mind boggling
I can't believe this...
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 05:01:46
May 02 2011 04:56 GMT
#796
Dude, violin works too! Guitar isn't as "azn" (edit: stereotypically lol if u know what i mean >.>) anyhow, and doesn't fit ZUN's songs as well. If you're going for a decently faithful arrange I mean.

We should make some videos. =D

May be you could record in both Violin and Bass Guitar once you learn that. I only know Piano and Flute.
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 05:03:54
May 02 2011 05:02 GMT
#797
On May 02 2011 13:56 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Dude, violin works too! Guitar isn't as "asian" anyhow, and doesn't fit ZUN's songs as well. If you're going for a decently faithful arrange I mean.

We should make some videos. =D

May be you could record in both Violin and Bass Guitar once you learn that. I only know Piano and Flute.

haha I don't have a bass guitar
I only said I wanted to learn

and... I never wanted to have perfect pitch this badly before now
I can tell that the WAV and MIDI are different, and that they don't have pitches in the same key, not half step up or half step down, but I can't tell which one is right and which one is wrong T_T

And recording actually sounds cool :D
Only problem I think would be audio quality, I don't exactly have a good setup for recording

edit: ah when I learn
Might be never :<
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 05:15:23
May 02 2011 05:11 GMT
#798
Ok, so I tested this on Piano,

So on EoSD Title Theme, the first note is an F in MIDI
and on WAV, it is a D#

So it's not out of tune
The world is right again

I misunderstood your post haha
They are just in different keys

I literally thought that the WAV version was actually out of tune
But it isn't, so your perfect pitch friend wouldn't have any trouble listening
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 05:31:43
May 02 2011 05:21 GMT
#799
This is so strange...

if you hear Apparitions Stalk the Night, the WAV starts on E, but the MIDI sounds like it's between Eb and E.

FUUUU zun xD

Edit: Gah, I can't figure it out. I don't know if I'm actually listening correctly or if I'm fitting the notes with the overtones and thinking that it's the right note.

Locked Girl also sounds like it starts on E on WAV and Eb on MIDI, but I can't tell if it starts instead on G (WAV). Of course it's probably a mix of two notes too <_>


Edit:

Apparitions (WAV) - sounds like it starts between Eb and E, maybe closer to E



But these start on Eb...
Apparitions (MIDI)

Apparitions (Piano)
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
May 02 2011 05:33 GMT
#800
On May 02 2011 04:53 Aeres wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 15:58 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
I really love you guys, it's really awesome coming here knowing I can find "good" music reliably!

Thanks for that mini EoSD vocal post JSH! All 3 are good :D

Maybe it's cus I played EoSD the most (since it was my first so I needed to get better before being able to beat it), but I think EoSD has some of the best music so far (haven't played all of them yet, let alone the ones before PC)

<3 Love accepted.

+ Show Spoiler [the Embodiment of Scarlet Devil] +
A Dream that is more Scarlet than Red
+ Show Spoiler [Golden City Factory] +

A Soul as Red as a Ground Cherry
+ Show Spoiler [Magnum Opus] +

Apparitions Stalk the Night
+ Show Spoiler [Dark PHOENiX] +

Lunate Elf
+ Show Spoiler [EastNewSound] +

Beloved Tomboyish Girl
+ Show Spoiler [CROW'SCLAW] +

Shanghai Teahouse ~ Chinese Tea
+ Show Spoiler [TAMusic] +

Shanghai Alice of Meiji 17
+ Show Spoiler [UI-70] +

Voile, the Magic Library
+ Show Spoiler [ARATO] +

Locked Girl ~ The Girl's Secret Room
+ Show Spoiler [sound sepher] +

The Maid and the Pocket Watch of Blood
+ Show Spoiler [Demetori] +

Lunar Clock ~ Luna Dial
+ Show Spoiler [Yumeiro-Project] +

The Young Descendant of Tepes
+ Show Spoiler [Notzan ACT] +

Septette for the Dead Princess
+ Show Spoiler [SHO] +

The Centennial Festival for Magical Girls
+ Show Spoiler [XL Project] +

U.N. Owen was Her?
+ Show Spoiler [Unknown Artist] +

An Eternity that is More Transient than Scarlet
+ Show Spoiler [Alstroemeria Records] +

Crimson Belvedere ~ Eastern Dream...
+ Show Spoiler [xi-on] +


ENCORE:

The Centennial Festival for Magical Girls / U.N. Owen was Her?
+ Show Spoiler [IRON ATTACK!] +

Locked Girl ~ The Girl's Secret Room
+ Show Spoiler [SHO] +

Septette for the Dead Princess
+ Show Spoiler [S.S.H.] +


This is sick; keep it up
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