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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
December 14 2007 06:28 GMT
#81
On December 13 2007 10:46 Last Romantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2007 10:22 pachi wrote:
On December 13 2007 10:17 koryano321 wrote:
On December 13 2007 10:13 Scorpion wrote:
This is my all-time favorite TLFE.

<3


sorry but i think last romantic's description of each proleague team is the best TLFE ever >__< this was good though no doubt. hopefully manifesto intends to stay since he does write quality posts through this website.


i don't think LR has written a FE, I'm guessing you're refering to HonestTea's Tribal Colors?


That's correct, I've never written an FE I should try my hand at it sometime.

Though I'm honored to be mistaken for HT. He's a much better poster than I ^^;

You both have zealots as icons ^^
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
fEAthEr
Profile Joined July 2004
Canada482 Posts
December 14 2007 08:35 GMT
#82
props on req/elky's playground :D


BLADESTORM 4 LYFE :3
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
December 14 2007 20:51 GMT
#83
On December 12 2007 09:17 Manifesto7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2007 08:44 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On December 12 2007 01:40 Diggity wrote:
awesome article. I would only change the recommendations on Shin Peaks of Baekdu to
Nal_ra v Savior http://teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/1685_Nal_rA_vs_sAviOr/vod


Yeah me too, and maybe GGPlay vs YellOw for 815? (i think it's the longest televised zvz, with defiler+hydra+devourer+lurker+sexiness)


Again, yes, probably a better pick. However, most people have seen that game, and I was hoping that I would include VODs people would go watch, rather than VODs people would just agree with because they have seen them already.


Is there a link to this game somewhere? I can't find it on youtube or TLPD. thanks.
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
GunsofthePatriots
Profile Joined August 2007
South Africa991 Posts
December 15 2007 01:28 GMT
#84
Many dorito spilling wtf moments in that list!
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 15 2007 01:54 GMT
#85
On December 15 2007 05:51 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2007 09:17 Manifesto7 wrote:
On December 12 2007 08:44 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On December 12 2007 01:40 Diggity wrote:
awesome article. I would only change the recommendations on Shin Peaks of Baekdu to
Nal_ra v Savior http://teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/1685_Nal_rA_vs_sAviOr/vod


Yeah me too, and maybe GGPlay vs YellOw for 815? (i think it's the longest televised zvz, with defiler+hydra+devourer+lurker+sexiness)


Again, yes, probably a better pick. However, most people have seen that game, and I was hoping that I would include VODs people would go watch, rather than VODs people would just agree with because they have seen them already.


Is there a link to this game somewhere? I can't find it on youtube or TLPD. thanks.


I requested it a while ago in this thread, and ecs was nice enough to upload the high quality version

Here you go
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-15 03:39:27
December 15 2007 03:36 GMT
#86
What about Lost Temple ):

Luna may be the father of all modern macro maps, but that would make LT the grandfather of all maps, seeing as it defined the base characteristics of most maps to follow - 4 bases, close natural expo, mineral only. Cliffs and islands got dropped, asymettry got dropped.
aaaaa
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27177 Posts
December 15 2007 03:42 GMT
#87
Yes, but this article was about pro maps, as I already wrote in this thread.
ModeratorGodfather
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-15 03:47:21
December 15 2007 03:46 GMT
#88
I didn't catch your comment about post-2004, my bad. I thought there were pro matches played on LT when the whole thing got started out, though. The LT we play has some pretty significant differences from the one that came with the game imo.
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27177 Posts
December 15 2007 03:54 GMT
#89
Yes, LT was used, but in the pro context it was hardly used at all. Ghem TV used a desert version for quite a while, and the original LT was used in one of the first OSLs, but if you look at the whole span of progaming, LT was a minor player.

That being said, I will not deny the influence LT has had on map makers and concepts. However, as a Blizzard made map and in the pro world, I don't think it was a top map.

PS. post 2004?
ModeratorGodfather
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
December 15 2007 13:39 GMT
#90
On December 12 2007 16:20 Manifesto7 wrote:
Longinus over Rush Hour? That is crazy talk. Longinus doesnt cut it. And Gowon? Well, I was trying to not make this a pre-2004 list anyway, but what did Gowon bring to the table to make it special? Gowon was more about the era of gamers that played on it than the map itself.
yeah
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27177 Posts
December 15 2007 17:44 GMT
#91
I guess I should have made that sentence clearer... I meantnot everything as post 2004. It would ave been easy to do. Despite this, LT snt anywhere close.
ModeratorGodfather
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20666 Posts
December 15 2007 19:02 GMT
#92
On December 14 2007 15:28 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2007 10:46 Last Romantic wrote:
On December 13 2007 10:22 pachi wrote:
On December 13 2007 10:17 koryano321 wrote:
On December 13 2007 10:13 Scorpion wrote:
This is my all-time favorite TLFE.

<3


sorry but i think last romantic's description of each proleague team is the best TLFE ever >__< this was good though no doubt. hopefully manifesto intends to stay since he does write quality posts through this website.


i don't think LR has written a FE, I'm guessing you're refering to HonestTea's Tribal Colors?


That's correct, I've never written an FE I should try my hand at it sometime.

Though I'm honored to be mistaken for HT. He's a much better poster than I ^^;

You both have zealots as icons ^^


As do SJM and Strafe, IIRC.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
December 16 2007 04:55 GMT
#93
Oh, I totally forgot to complement you on writing such a nice and comprehensive article
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.dragoon
Profile Joined May 2007
United States749 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-16 08:25:48
December 16 2007 08:18 GMT
#94
Aside from the map itself I can certainly understand why LT got so hot.

I just looked at the other ladder maps again, talk about STEAMING CRAP.
If you can, then do. If I can, I will.
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
December 16 2007 22:22 GMT
#95
On December 15 2007 10:54 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2007 05:51 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On December 12 2007 09:17 Manifesto7 wrote:
On December 12 2007 08:44 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On December 12 2007 01:40 Diggity wrote:
awesome article. I would only change the recommendations on Shin Peaks of Baekdu to
Nal_ra v Savior http://teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/1685_Nal_rA_vs_sAviOr/vod


Yeah me too, and maybe GGPlay vs YellOw for 815? (i think it's the longest televised zvz, with defiler+hydra+devourer+lurker+sexiness)


Again, yes, probably a better pick. However, most people have seen that game, and I was hoping that I would include VODs people would go watch, rather than VODs people would just agree with because they have seen them already.


Is there a link to this game somewhere? I can't find it on youtube or TLPD. thanks.


I requested it a while ago in this thread, and ecs was nice enough to upload the high quality version

Here you go


Awesome, thanks!!
LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
December 17 2007 14:04 GMT
#96
nice writing, what are you views on R point ? i used to love that map so much, but i havent played it in ages, shame on me
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
December 18 2007 01:29 GMT
#97
Okay, after reading your rebuttal, I guess, while there were some amazing games on Neo Forte, it's not really top 10 material.

In the biggest busts, though, I think Geometry should go there somewhere. I mean, in something like 80 games, 47 were TvT, and ZvT was 3-12.

I mean, ew. @_@
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
December 18 2007 18:37 GMT
#98
i agree with this list, it fits your criteria well

that said, my favorite map of all time is still namja iyagi (altho i understand why you didn't include it)
i dunno why, it's just tons of fun to play it and watch games on it.. wish it would've been used more
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
December 26 2007 09:56 GMT
#99
On December 18 2007 10:29 blagoonga123 wrote:
Okay, after reading your rebuttal, I guess, while there were some amazing games on Neo Forte, it's not really top 10 material.

In the biggest busts, though, I think Geometry should go there somewhere. I mean, in something like 80 games, 47 were TvT, and ZvT was 3-12.

I mean, ew. @_@


Yeah, Geometry sucks harder than DMZ imo.
kpcrew
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1071 Posts
January 07 2008 05:05 GMT
#100
i thought this was nice but cant believe u didnt put up lost temple
its like the most popular map of all time
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