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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
July 19 2007 03:37 GMT
#21
On July 19 2007 12:24 Dahlia... wrote:
What is Bisu/July's recs against one another?

I really think he wins 3-1/3-2 against Bisu if he got through GoRush.

as far as i know they haven't played each other in a televised game

i will have to disagree with you. July might have done better against Bisu than GoRush did due to stronger ZvP, but I still think Bisu would've won that series.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
OrderlyChaos
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1115 Posts
July 19 2007 07:55 GMT
#22
Nice article. It almost convinced me to root for Bisu more :O

It's probably just me, but it seems like Bisu doesn't do quite as well against super aggressive rush type builds (probably because they're super aggressive and rush/cheese...) He's lost vs Oversky (w/the famous 3hatch ling) and Flash (with the Bio Rush). Is this because of a flaw in his builds? Or lack of proper scouting? Of course, he's probably won plenty vs aggressive people, I just don't know about them...
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-19 08:05:09
July 19 2007 08:00 GMT
#23
all great players lose to all-ins sometime, it's just a fact of brood war

i really don't think it's some flaw in bisu's style

these guys practice 10 hours a day, they think of almost every possibility that can occur in a game. every time they lose to something the next time they are a lot less likely to lose to the same thing.

i know Bisu lost twice to a bio build from Flash. it happens, but i don't think it's some sort of big gaping hole in the way he plays.
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TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
July 19 2007 08:29 GMT
#24
Bisu has been my favorite player for years i have a keen eye for spotting protoss talent i wont lie. Im going to show a post of mine from a year ago in the boxer balance suggestion thread.

TheGreatOne United States. October 10 2006 15:02. Posts 254 PM Profile Buddy Quote edit

No offense to boxer he is my favorite player of all time but this idea is pure outrageous. I honestly can say to myself I dont see much of a problem with pvz. This could just be that its my best mu and I find it easy actually. Just like the big zvt boom I forsee a big pvz boom. Before july/gorush/savior many zergs had a insanely hard time zvt and it could be considered imba but now it seems just fine with the outbreak of quick hive/3 hat muta/defiler usage. Bisu[shield] a fine example of what im saying he plays pvz the way it should be played. I think most tosses will catch on how to play pvz good look at kingdom hes starting to shine pvz. But anyways this idea is crazy you cant change such a standard concept just to fix a tiny balance problem in the first place. If anything would be changed it should just be DA raised with higher energy or lower 75 maelstorm. Shield upgrades should be changed to lower costs and I think the nexus should be strengthened since it dies so fast tvp and zvp. Also maybe reaver AI should be fixed could help a lot. I see no trouble with lurkers as most people see as the main problem its just for the longest time toss had trouble with lurkers since they were so used to mass hydra/hydra-ling things like that.Pvz is a tiny bit in favor for zerg but its just like for tvz and pvt nothing drastic. Also for the longest time maps were so bad for pvz and it screwed toss forever. Just my 2 cents

I have to brag about this somehow :D


Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
July 19 2007 08:53 GMT
#25
Maps definitely had something to do with it during some tournaments. But the effect of new-aged PvZ, not just Bisu's style specifically, is undenyable. I don't care what maps you come up with, the old Protoss Kings (Reach, Kingdom, Ra) could never do what new tosses (Bisu, free, Anytime, even Stork and others to a lesser extent) are doing now. It's just incredible. The matchup has been reinvented!

On July 19 2007 07:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
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On July 19 2007 05:37 zXk3 wrote:
great article... great graphics ^^

yeah, the TL:FE banner looks pretty awesome too


It certainly does. Thank you so much for making it zXk3!
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koryano321
Profile Joined June 2007
United States309 Posts
July 19 2007 09:34 GMT
#26
you all watch anytime come and rape this dt wannabe up the ass.... hahahaha we shall see this coming fall!!
Scorpio2012 wrote: i guess god is about as useful as a protoss scout
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
July 19 2007 11:26 GMT
#27
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CustomXSpunjah
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1093 Posts
July 19 2007 13:21 GMT
#28
great read, bisu's style is bittersweet, he gives me hope as a budding protoss player in an imba world, but i know i will never be able to pull of the bo's and multitasking he has....
beware, the rise of the Protoss is upon us!
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44398 Posts
July 19 2007 14:33 GMT
#29
Incredibly sexy!
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Organ
Profile Joined September 2006
Russian Federation987 Posts
July 19 2007 19:17 GMT
#30
So sweet write-up. Thank you.
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
July 19 2007 20:34 GMT
#31
I thoroughly enjoyed reading this. Thanks Hot_Bid
Oh no
GongKyuckTerran
Profile Joined March 2006
Croatia1096 Posts
July 19 2007 22:19 GMT
#32
really nice article
bisu pure art
Ultras di Spalato, Etre et durer
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-07-20 02:00:22
July 20 2007 01:59 GMT
#33
No wait. nevermind.

. Damn savior.
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
July 20 2007 05:40 GMT
#34
On July 19 2007 17:29 TheGreatOne wrote:
Bisu has been my favorite player for years i have a keen eye for spotting protoss talent i wont lie. Im going to show a post of mine from a year ago in the boxer balance suggestion thread.

TheGreatOne United States. October 10 2006 15:02. Posts 254 PM Profile Buddy Quote edit

No offense to boxer he is my favorite player of all time but this idea is pure outrageous. I honestly can say to myself I dont see much of a problem with pvz. This could just be that its my best mu and I find it easy actually. Just like the big zvt boom I forsee a big pvz boom. Before july/gorush/savior many zergs had a insanely hard time zvt and it could be considered imba but now it seems just fine with the outbreak of quick hive/3 hat muta/defiler usage. Bisu[shield] a fine example of what im saying he plays pvz the way it should be played. I think most tosses will catch on how to play pvz good look at kingdom hes starting to shine pvz. But anyways this idea is crazy you cant change such a standard concept just to fix a tiny balance problem in the first place. If anything would be changed it should just be DA raised with higher energy or lower 75 maelstorm. Shield upgrades should be changed to lower costs and I think the nexus should be strengthened since it dies so fast tvp and zvp. Also maybe reaver AI should be fixed could help a lot. I see no trouble with lurkers as most people see as the main problem its just for the longest time toss had trouble with lurkers since they were so used to mass hydra/hydra-ling things like that.Pvz is a tiny bit in favor for zerg but its just like for tvz and pvt nothing drastic. Also for the longest time maps were so bad for pvz and it screwed toss forever. Just my 2 cents

I have to brag about this somehow :D



ra's pvz was pretty to look at tho
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
July 20 2007 08:24 GMT
#35
great article!
Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
July 20 2007 10:33 GMT
#36
bisu i didn't like him at the beginning, but watching his smart playing and clean style, i'm starting to grow to him
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
July 22 2007 11:30 GMT
#37
We need like the Orcs chanting sound from the LotR movies while you read the article. That would be so awesome hahaha
^-^
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
July 22 2007 11:52 GMT
#38
apparently i've got the article writing curse

because i write one about savior and he auto-loses out of both leagues

and now i write one about Bisu and he immediately loses in proleague in his best matchup

i'm going to write about midas or fbh next then
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LazySCV
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
United States2942 Posts
July 22 2007 14:36 GMT
#39
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
July 22 2007 16:07 GMT
#40
On July 22 2007 23:36 LaZyScV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2007 20:51 Hot_Bid wrote:
It is part luck, part skill, part concentrated power of will


A fan of Fort Minor?

"Remember The Name"

This is ten percent luck,
Twenty percent skill,
Fifteen percent concentrated power of will,
Five percent pleasure,
Fifty percent pain,
And a hundred percent reason to remember the name!


Anyway, nice write-up. ^^ Too bad he lost that ProLeague game; especially against a nobody (pretty much). o_O


Fort minor rocks! XD
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