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LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
July 01 2013 02:46 GMT
#6061
On July 01 2013 11:43 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:39 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:32 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 Whatson wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:22 opterown wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:20 edgeOut wrote:
[quote]
What does "losing the worst" mean?

i hazard a guess at him meaning that korean fanboys are the most sore losers? but he worded it quite badly

Understandable, I mean, they win so much they probably forgot what losing felt like


I heard they get put to Kespa Jail when they lose

They get locked in a cell with TurN

who all is in kespa jail now? Turn, Stork, Dear, Stats, soO... ?


Stephano used to be in Kespa Jail but they let him out because he promised to retire and never return to Korea

Ok I got the list from that thread
According to Dodgin
- everyone who matchfixed
- that guy who beat his wife
- turn
- the real stork

as well as Whiplash for making fat jokes, JYP for this tweet, and now Stats, Dear, and soO for placing lower than a foreigner at MLG


We need a Kespa Jail thread so we can keep track of everyone that's in Kespa Jail

On July 01 2013 11:37 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:34 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:26 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:24 LighT. wrote:
[quote]
It is very true that the portion about "any SPL player immediately dominating the competition" has been proven false. You'd have to be a moron to still be arguing that. What is true is that the top-tier of SPL crop are a level above the rest of the competition Perhaps I'm a homer but Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Rain..I firmly believe they're a level above anyone in GSTL that isnt named Life, and Life's been struggling lately (but small sample size).



Mvp

This thread is now about Mvp

[image loading]

Too small of a sample size to say anything about Mvp, IMO.
All he's done is 2 games off of Innovation, which is pretty nice but...too small of a sample size.

I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

I still dont like the whole Kespa/esf references.
eSF refers to Startale, LG-IM, MVP, Prime, NsHoseo and (Axiom??)
Azubu is their only little thing, EG-TL is their own little thing and so is Quantic
Kespa is just a big governing body and nothing much more than that

Why cant we just call them GSTL/SPL players so we can include everyone :<...


I dunno I just consider them all players of their respective teams

Of which IM and Woongjin are the best

Startale are assholes

Why do you hate startale? that emotion could be better spent loving fxo :D


Because Startale are jerks

(I am trying my best to elevate IM vs ST to KT vs SKT proportions but it isn't working. ST are still assholes though)

The only FXO player I like is sC. and TheBest but only if he promises to always play terrible

By the way we need a Esf Jail too

We should make it in TL+ so plebs cant see


On it

You are one awesome person my friend
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
July 01 2013 02:48 GMT
#6062
On July 01 2013 11:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:44 opterown wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:43 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:39 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:32 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 Whatson wrote:
[quote]
Understandable, I mean, they win so much they probably forgot what losing felt like


I heard they get put to Kespa Jail when they lose

They get locked in a cell with TurN

who all is in kespa jail now? Turn, Stork, Dear, Stats, soO... ?


Stephano used to be in Kespa Jail but they let him out because he promised to retire and never return to Korea

Ok I got the list from that thread
According to Dodgin
- everyone who matchfixed
- that guy who beat his wife
- turn
- the real stork

as well as Whiplash for making fat jokes, JYP for this tweet, and now Stats, Dear, and soO for placing lower than a foreigner at MLG


We need a Kespa Jail thread so we can keep track of everyone that's in Kespa Jail

On July 01 2013 11:37 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:34 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 LighT. wrote:
[quote]
Too small of a sample size to say anything about Mvp, IMO.
All he's done is 2 games off of Innovation, which is pretty nice but...too small of a sample size.

I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

I still dont like the whole Kespa/esf references.
eSF refers to Startale, LG-IM, MVP, Prime, NsHoseo and (Axiom??)
Azubu is their only little thing, EG-TL is their own little thing and so is Quantic
Kespa is just a big governing body and nothing much more than that

Why cant we just call them GSTL/SPL players so we can include everyone :<...


I dunno I just consider them all players of their respective teams

Of which IM and Woongjin are the best

Startale are assholes

Why do you hate startale? that emotion could be better spent loving fxo :D


Because Startale are jerks

(I am trying my best to elevate IM vs ST to KT vs SKT proportions but it isn't working. ST are still assholes though)

The only FXO player I like is sC. and TheBest but only if he promises to always play terrible

By the way we need a Esf Jail too

We should make it in TL+ so plebs cant see

This will be all solved very easily with a GSTL/SPL merger.
KT vs SKT (battle of the telecoms)
Samsung Khan vs LG-IM (Battle of the electronic giants)
EG-TL vs Startale (Battle of the energy drinks so for every win, they take that big gulp from their respective drinks and show it off)
MVP vs CJ (LoL rivalry translated into Sc2!)

haha that would be pretty cool indeed

Slayers vs woongjin battle of Ryu won oh wait

The rivalry should be
Woongjin vs STX (Battle of companies that filed for bankruptcy but decided to keep the sc2 teams *wink wink nudge nudge STX Soul >_>)
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 02:53:08
July 01 2013 02:49 GMT
#6063
On July 01 2013 11:26 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:24 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:05 Tanzklaue wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:56 SoFrOsTy wrote:
There weren't a lot of good Kespa players at MLG. Hyun was Kespa literally until he switched to SC 2. But Flash wasn't there, CJHero wasn't there, Parting, Rain, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Fantasy, Hyvaa, Innovation, S2, True, Cure, Jaehoon, Terminator, Baby, Zest, sOs, Free, or Soulkey... sooo This not relevant to elephant

actually, it is very relevant, because the article said even lesser kespa players would crush the competition.

what happened in the end was that the kespa players here got beaten up by foreigners and koreans that don't even really affiliate with eSF, or easier said: people that are not mainly competing in korea.

add to that that most of the kespa pros are not really better than the good eSF players.

It is very true that the portion about "any SPL player immediately dominating the competition" has been proven false. You'd have to be a moron to still be arguing that. What is true is that the top-tier of SPL crop are a level above the rest of the competition Perhaps I'm a homer but Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Rain..I firmly believe they're a level above anyone in GSTL that isnt named Life, and Life's been struggling lately (but small sample size).



Mvp

This thread is now about Mvp

[image loading]


Does anyone else think Mvp is the greatest human on this earth?

If he just joined Azubu everything would be perfect...
rshawer
Profile Joined December 2012
178 Posts
July 01 2013 02:50 GMT
#6064
Someone said Turn is in Kespa jail, what did he do?
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
July 01 2013 02:50 GMT
#6065
On July 01 2013 11:14 ChoiSulli wrote:
lol ESF fanboys mad cause no ESF player will ever again win WCS Korea.

Believe in Eve. She will prove you all wrong.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 01 2013 02:50 GMT
#6066
Team 8 vs NSH

Battle of the teams with no shot in hell of making the playoffs
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 01 2013 02:51 GMT
#6067
On July 01 2013 11:48 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:44 opterown wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:43 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:39 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:32 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 lichter wrote:
[quote]

I heard they get put to Kespa Jail when they lose

They get locked in a cell with TurN

who all is in kespa jail now? Turn, Stork, Dear, Stats, soO... ?


Stephano used to be in Kespa Jail but they let him out because he promised to retire and never return to Korea

Ok I got the list from that thread
According to Dodgin
- everyone who matchfixed
- that guy who beat his wife
- turn
- the real stork

as well as Whiplash for making fat jokes, JYP for this tweet, and now Stats, Dear, and soO for placing lower than a foreigner at MLG


We need a Kespa Jail thread so we can keep track of everyone that's in Kespa Jail

On July 01 2013 11:37 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:34 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
[quote]
I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

I still dont like the whole Kespa/esf references.
eSF refers to Startale, LG-IM, MVP, Prime, NsHoseo and (Axiom??)
Azubu is their only little thing, EG-TL is their own little thing and so is Quantic
Kespa is just a big governing body and nothing much more than that

Why cant we just call them GSTL/SPL players so we can include everyone :<...


I dunno I just consider them all players of their respective teams

Of which IM and Woongjin are the best

Startale are assholes

Why do you hate startale? that emotion could be better spent loving fxo :D


Because Startale are jerks

(I am trying my best to elevate IM vs ST to KT vs SKT proportions but it isn't working. ST are still assholes though)

The only FXO player I like is sC. and TheBest but only if he promises to always play terrible

By the way we need a Esf Jail too

We should make it in TL+ so plebs cant see

This will be all solved very easily with a GSTL/SPL merger.
KT vs SKT (battle of the telecoms)
Samsung Khan vs LG-IM (Battle of the electronic giants)
EG-TL vs Startale (Battle of the energy drinks so for every win, they take that big gulp from their respective drinks and show it off)
MVP vs CJ (LoL rivalry translated into Sc2!)

haha that would be pretty cool indeed

Slayers vs woongjin battle of Ryu won oh wait

The rivalry should be
Woongjin vs STX (Battle of companies that filed for bankruptcy but decided to keep the sc2 teams *wink wink nudge nudge STX Soul >_>)


Azubu versus Team 8, battle of imaginary "teams"

lololol
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 02:53:26
July 01 2013 02:51 GMT
#6068
On July 01 2013 11:24 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:05 Tanzklaue wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:56 SoFrOsTy wrote:
There weren't a lot of good Kespa players at MLG. Hyun was Kespa literally until he switched to SC 2. But Flash wasn't there, CJHero wasn't there, Parting, Rain, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Fantasy, Hyvaa, Innovation, S2, True, Cure, Jaehoon, Terminator, Baby, Zest, sOs, Free, or Soulkey... sooo This not relevant to elephant

actually, it is very relevant, because the article said even lesser kespa players would crush the competition.

what happened in the end was that the kespa players here got beaten up by foreigners and koreans that don't even really affiliate with eSF, or easier said: people that are not mainly competing in korea.

add to that that most of the kespa pros are not really better than the good eSF players.

It is very true that the portion about "any SPL player immediately dominating the competition" has been proven false. You'd have to be a moron to still be arguing that. What is true is that the top-tier of SPL crop are a level above the rest of the competition Perhaps I'm a homer but Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Rain..I firmly believe they're a level above anyone in GSTL that isnt named Life, and Life's been struggling lately (but small sample size).



The main point of the articles was that all the sc2 players were B teamers thus 'Any SPL player immediately dominating the competition'. So once that is false, the whole article falls apart.

It is like writing an article saying the stock market will go up 2000 points. But then the market only goes up 500, you can't claim the article was still right because the market did go up.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
July 01 2013 02:51 GMT
#6069
On July 01 2013 11:50 rshawer wrote:
Someone said Turn is in Kespa jail, what did he do?

The only player to have a 100% winrate vs Innovation, the new undisputed warlord of TL.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 01 2013 02:52 GMT
#6070
On July 01 2013 11:50 rshawer wrote:
Someone said Turn is in Kespa jail, what did he do?


For being an aggressive motherfucker
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 01 2013 02:52 GMT
#6071
On July 01 2013 11:52 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:50 rshawer wrote:
Someone said Turn is in Kespa jail, what did he do?


For being an aggressive motherfucker

He was promised by Fionn to be one of the up and comers in sc2
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
July 01 2013 02:54 GMT
#6072
On July 01 2013 11:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:52 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:50 rshawer wrote:
Someone said Turn is in Kespa jail, what did he do?


For being an aggressive motherfucker

He was promised by Fionn to be one of the up and comers in sc2

He did qualify for Code A
And he's starting to get his shit together.
Reality better watch his back.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 01 2013 02:58 GMT
#6073
On July 01 2013 11:50 rshawer wrote:
Someone said Turn is in Kespa jail, what did he do?


He left the player booth in Proleague after entering it before his match started, which is against their rules.
SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
July 01 2013 02:58 GMT
#6074
On July 01 2013 10:58 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 10:56 SoFrOsTy wrote:
There weren't a lot of good Kespa players at MLG. Hyun was Kespa literally until he switched to SC 2. But Flash wasn't there, CJHero wasn't there, Parting, Rain, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Fantasy, Hyvaa, Innovation, S2, True, Cure, Jaehoon, Terminator, Baby, Zest, sOs, Free, or Soulkey... sooo This not relevant to elephant

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_MLG_Spring_Championship/KeSPA_Qualifiers


Did you actually look at the link you sent? All the Kespa players knocked eachother out in that bracket... lol
Julyzerg ftw
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 03:04:02
July 01 2013 02:59 GMT
#6075
On July 01 2013 11:34 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:26 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:24 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:05 Tanzklaue wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:56 SoFrOsTy wrote:
There weren't a lot of good Kespa players at MLG. Hyun was Kespa literally until he switched to SC 2. But Flash wasn't there, CJHero wasn't there, Parting, Rain, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Fantasy, Hyvaa, Innovation, S2, True, Cure, Jaehoon, Terminator, Baby, Zest, sOs, Free, or Soulkey... sooo This not relevant to elephant

actually, it is very relevant, because the article said even lesser kespa players would crush the competition.

what happened in the end was that the kespa players here got beaten up by foreigners and koreans that don't even really affiliate with eSF, or easier said: people that are not mainly competing in korea.

add to that that most of the kespa pros are not really better than the good eSF players.

It is very true that the portion about "any SPL player immediately dominating the competition" has been proven false. You'd have to be a moron to still be arguing that. What is true is that the top-tier of SPL crop are a level above the rest of the competition Perhaps I'm a homer but Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Rain..I firmly believe they're a level above anyone in GSTL that isnt named Life, and Life's been struggling lately (but small sample size).



Mvp

This thread is now about Mvp

[image loading]

Too small of a sample size to say anything about Mvp, IMO.
All he's done is 2 games off of Innovation, which is pretty nice but...too small of a sample size.

I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

I still dont like the whole Kespa/esf references.
eSF refers to Startale, LG-IM, MVP, Prime, NsHoseo and (Axiom??)
Azubu is their only little thing, EG-TL is their own little thing and so is Quantic
Kespa is just a big governing body and nothing much more than that

Why cant we just call them GSTL/SPL players so we can include everyone :<...

azubu is esf axiom is not

On July 01 2013 11:58 SoFrOsTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 10:58 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:56 SoFrOsTy wrote:
There weren't a lot of good Kespa players at MLG. Hyun was Kespa literally until he switched to SC 2. But Flash wasn't there, CJHero wasn't there, Parting, Rain, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Fantasy, Hyvaa, Innovation, S2, True, Cure, Jaehoon, Terminator, Baby, Zest, sOs, Free, or Soulkey... sooo This not relevant to elephant

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_MLG_Spring_Championship/KeSPA_Qualifiers


Did you actually look at the link you sent? All the Kespa players knocked eachother out in that bracket... lol

you said there were no good kespa players at this mlg, and that's because they were all eliminated by these players who made it to mlg, stats,dear, and soo stood at the top, you can't say they aren't good kespa players. I will say their weren't many of them.
Moderatorlickypiddy
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 01 2013 03:03 GMT
#6076
On July 01 2013 11:59 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:34 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:26 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:24 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:05 Tanzklaue wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:56 SoFrOsTy wrote:
There weren't a lot of good Kespa players at MLG. Hyun was Kespa literally until he switched to SC 2. But Flash wasn't there, CJHero wasn't there, Parting, Rain, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Fantasy, Hyvaa, Innovation, S2, True, Cure, Jaehoon, Terminator, Baby, Zest, sOs, Free, or Soulkey... sooo This not relevant to elephant

actually, it is very relevant, because the article said even lesser kespa players would crush the competition.

what happened in the end was that the kespa players here got beaten up by foreigners and koreans that don't even really affiliate with eSF, or easier said: people that are not mainly competing in korea.

add to that that most of the kespa pros are not really better than the good eSF players.

It is very true that the portion about "any SPL player immediately dominating the competition" has been proven false. You'd have to be a moron to still be arguing that. What is true is that the top-tier of SPL crop are a level above the rest of the competition Perhaps I'm a homer but Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Rain..I firmly believe they're a level above anyone in GSTL that isnt named Life, and Life's been struggling lately (but small sample size).



Mvp

This thread is now about Mvp

[image loading]

Too small of a sample size to say anything about Mvp, IMO.
All he's done is 2 games off of Innovation, which is pretty nice but...too small of a sample size.

I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

I still dont like the whole Kespa/esf references.
eSF refers to Startale, LG-IM, MVP, Prime, NsHoseo and (Axiom??)
Azubu is their only little thing, EG-TL is their own little thing and so is Quantic
Kespa is just a big governing body and nothing much more than that

Why cant we just call them GSTL/SPL players so we can include everyone :<...

azubu is esf axiom is not


Azubu vs hewhoshallnotbenamed ha ha ha
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Erraa93
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia891 Posts
July 01 2013 03:06 GMT
#6077
On July 01 2013 11:46 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:43 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:39 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:32 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 Whatson wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:22 opterown wrote:
[quote]
i hazard a guess at him meaning that korean fanboys are the most sore losers? but he worded it quite badly

Understandable, I mean, they win so much they probably forgot what losing felt like


I heard they get put to Kespa Jail when they lose

They get locked in a cell with TurN

who all is in kespa jail now? Turn, Stork, Dear, Stats, soO... ?


Stephano used to be in Kespa Jail but they let him out because he promised to retire and never return to Korea

Ok I got the list from that thread
According to Dodgin
- everyone who matchfixed
- that guy who beat his wife
- turn
- the real stork

as well as Whiplash for making fat jokes, JYP for this tweet, and now Stats, Dear, and soO for placing lower than a foreigner at MLG


We need a Kespa Jail thread so we can keep track of everyone that's in Kespa Jail

On July 01 2013 11:37 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:36 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:34 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:26 lichter wrote:
[quote]

Mvp

This thread is now about Mvp

[image loading]

Too small of a sample size to say anything about Mvp, IMO.
All he's done is 2 games off of Innovation, which is pretty nice but...too small of a sample size.

I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

I still dont like the whole Kespa/esf references.
eSF refers to Startale, LG-IM, MVP, Prime, NsHoseo and (Axiom??)
Azubu is their only little thing, EG-TL is their own little thing and so is Quantic
Kespa is just a big governing body and nothing much more than that

Why cant we just call them GSTL/SPL players so we can include everyone :<...


I dunno I just consider them all players of their respective teams

Of which IM and Woongjin are the best

Startale are assholes

Why do you hate startale? that emotion could be better spent loving fxo :D


Because Startale are jerks

(I am trying my best to elevate IM vs ST to KT vs SKT proportions but it isn't working. ST are still assholes though)

The only FXO player I like is sC. and TheBest but only if he promises to always play terrible

By the way we need a Esf Jail too

We should make it in TL+ so plebs cant see


On it

You are one awesome person my friend


But i want to see
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 01 2013 03:07 GMT
#6078
On July 01 2013 11:59 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:34 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:26 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:24 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:05 Tanzklaue wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:56 SoFrOsTy wrote:
There weren't a lot of good Kespa players at MLG. Hyun was Kespa literally until he switched to SC 2. But Flash wasn't there, CJHero wasn't there, Parting, Rain, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Fantasy, Hyvaa, Innovation, S2, True, Cure, Jaehoon, Terminator, Baby, Zest, sOs, Free, or Soulkey... sooo This not relevant to elephant

actually, it is very relevant, because the article said even lesser kespa players would crush the competition.

what happened in the end was that the kespa players here got beaten up by foreigners and koreans that don't even really affiliate with eSF, or easier said: people that are not mainly competing in korea.

add to that that most of the kespa pros are not really better than the good eSF players.

It is very true that the portion about "any SPL player immediately dominating the competition" has been proven false. You'd have to be a moron to still be arguing that. What is true is that the top-tier of SPL crop are a level above the rest of the competition Perhaps I'm a homer but Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Rain..I firmly believe they're a level above anyone in GSTL that isnt named Life, and Life's been struggling lately (but small sample size).



Mvp

This thread is now about Mvp

[image loading]

Too small of a sample size to say anything about Mvp, IMO.
All he's done is 2 games off of Innovation, which is pretty nice but...too small of a sample size.

I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

I still dont like the whole Kespa/esf references.
eSF refers to Startale, LG-IM, MVP, Prime, NsHoseo and (Axiom??)
Azubu is their only little thing, EG-TL is their own little thing and so is Quantic
Kespa is just a big governing body and nothing much more than that

Why cant we just call them GSTL/SPL players so we can include everyone :<...

azubu is esf axiom is not

Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:58 SoFrOsTy wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:58 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:56 SoFrOsTy wrote:
There weren't a lot of good Kespa players at MLG. Hyun was Kespa literally until he switched to SC 2. But Flash wasn't there, CJHero wasn't there, Parting, Rain, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Fantasy, Hyvaa, Innovation, S2, True, Cure, Jaehoon, Terminator, Baby, Zest, sOs, Free, or Soulkey... sooo This not relevant to elephant

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_MLG_Spring_Championship/KeSPA_Qualifiers


Did you actually look at the link you sent? All the Kespa players knocked eachother out in that bracket... lol

you said there were no good kespa players at this mlg, and that's because they were all eliminated by these players who made it to mlg, stats,dear, and soo stood at the top, you can't say they aren't good kespa players. I will say their weren't many of them.


I will never, ever, ever admit that soO is a decent player. Never.
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 01 2013 03:09 GMT
#6079
On July 01 2013 12:07 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:59 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:34 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:30 bo1b wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:29 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:26 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:24 LighT. wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:05 Tanzklaue wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:56 SoFrOsTy wrote:
There weren't a lot of good Kespa players at MLG. Hyun was Kespa literally until he switched to SC 2. But Flash wasn't there, CJHero wasn't there, Parting, Rain, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Fantasy, Hyvaa, Innovation, S2, True, Cure, Jaehoon, Terminator, Baby, Zest, sOs, Free, or Soulkey... sooo This not relevant to elephant

actually, it is very relevant, because the article said even lesser kespa players would crush the competition.

what happened in the end was that the kespa players here got beaten up by foreigners and koreans that don't even really affiliate with eSF, or easier said: people that are not mainly competing in korea.

add to that that most of the kespa pros are not really better than the good eSF players.

It is very true that the portion about "any SPL player immediately dominating the competition" has been proven false. You'd have to be a moron to still be arguing that. What is true is that the top-tier of SPL crop are a level above the rest of the competition Perhaps I'm a homer but Innovation, Soulkey, Flash, Rain..I firmly believe they're a level above anyone in GSTL that isnt named Life, and Life's been struggling lately (but small sample size).



Mvp

This thread is now about Mvp

[image loading]

Too small of a sample size to say anything about Mvp, IMO.
All he's done is 2 games off of Innovation, which is pretty nice but...too small of a sample size.

I hurd flash and sos lost just recently... huehuehuehuehue, kespa << foreigners < esf

I still dont like the whole Kespa/esf references.
eSF refers to Startale, LG-IM, MVP, Prime, NsHoseo and (Axiom??)
Azubu is their only little thing, EG-TL is their own little thing and so is Quantic
Kespa is just a big governing body and nothing much more than that

Why cant we just call them GSTL/SPL players so we can include everyone :<...

azubu is esf axiom is not

On July 01 2013 11:58 SoFrOsTy wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:58 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On July 01 2013 10:56 SoFrOsTy wrote:
There weren't a lot of good Kespa players at MLG. Hyun was Kespa literally until he switched to SC 2. But Flash wasn't there, CJHero wasn't there, Parting, Rain, Bisu, Jangbi, Stork, Fantasy, Hyvaa, Innovation, S2, True, Cure, Jaehoon, Terminator, Baby, Zest, sOs, Free, or Soulkey... sooo This not relevant to elephant

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_MLG_Spring_Championship/KeSPA_Qualifiers


Did you actually look at the link you sent? All the Kespa players knocked eachother out in that bracket... lol

you said there were no good kespa players at this mlg, and that's because they were all eliminated by these players who made it to mlg, stats,dear, and soo stood at the top, you can't say they aren't good kespa players. I will say their weren't many of them.


I will never, ever, ever admit that soO is a decent player. Never.

once he beats all your favorite players you will
Moderatorlickypiddy
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
July 01 2013 03:11 GMT
#6080
On July 01 2013 11:54 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 11:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:52 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2013 11:50 rshawer wrote:
Someone said Turn is in Kespa jail, what did he do?


For being an aggressive motherfucker

He was promised by Fionn to be one of the up and comers in sc2

He did qualify for Code A
And he's starting to get his shit together.
Reality better watch his back.



Turn is top 1 QT in SC2 (no homo), I notice this crazy sexual tension between him and January I think she does thinks to him but that is just speculation also he reminds me of Girls Day Hyeri
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