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On January 29 2012 15:29 Apollo_Shards wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 15:13 Whatson wrote:On January 29 2012 15:07 Apollo_Shards wrote:On January 29 2012 15:04 1Eris1 wrote:On January 29 2012 14:47 Steveling wrote:
MMA didn't have his current work ethic in bw, just saying. Also he wasn't in the scene for long. Shortly after he joined sc2 was announced so he decided to play the new game since he didn't have any emotional ties with bw.
If he was playing bw as he is now, he would be s class. I was going to agree with you until you said he would be S class. Get that crap out of here, you have no idea what that means for BW We'll see when BW dies and he switches over. You're going to have to wait for a long time...as long as there is money to be made in BW, there is no way that Flash is switching over. The BW scene is anemicin my opinion. What do you guys get now? The occasional teamleague? Compare that to the endless amount of SC2 tournaments. There looks like there is much more money to be made in SC2, so money wont hold them forever.
...just saying I play SC2 more than I play BW LOL..so you're sort of grouping 'you guys' into the wrong category.
The only problem with 'the occasional teamleague' is that it gets twice as many viewers in Korea, and it generates so much more money. Honestly, it's only in the international scene that SC2 is ahead of BW.
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On January 29 2012 15:45 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 15:29 Apollo_Shards wrote:On January 29 2012 15:13 Whatson wrote:On January 29 2012 15:07 Apollo_Shards wrote:On January 29 2012 15:04 1Eris1 wrote:On January 29 2012 14:47 Steveling wrote:
MMA didn't have his current work ethic in bw, just saying. Also he wasn't in the scene for long. Shortly after he joined sc2 was announced so he decided to play the new game since he didn't have any emotional ties with bw.
If he was playing bw as he is now, he would be s class. I was going to agree with you until you said he would be S class. Get that crap out of here, you have no idea what that means for BW We'll see when BW dies and he switches over. You're going to have to wait for a long time...as long as there is money to be made in BW, there is no way that Flash is switching over. The BW scene is anemicin my opinion. What do you guys get now? The occasional teamleague? Compare that to the endless amount of SC2 tournaments. There looks like there is much more money to be made in SC2, so money wont hold them forever. ...just saying I play SC2 more than I play BW LOL..so you're sort of grouping 'you guys' into the wrong category. The only problem with 'the occasional teamleague' is that it gets twice as many viewers in Korea, and it generates so much more money. Honestly, it's only in the international scene that SC2 is ahead of BW.
Sometimes you can hear crickets in the SC2 GOM studio. =(
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Sase over ForGG 2-0 in the FXOpen... or
White Dude dominates former BW Proleague Champion and defeater of Flash.
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On January 29 2012 16:16 nvs. wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 15:45 Whatson wrote:On January 29 2012 15:29 Apollo_Shards wrote:On January 29 2012 15:13 Whatson wrote:On January 29 2012 15:07 Apollo_Shards wrote:On January 29 2012 15:04 1Eris1 wrote:On January 29 2012 14:47 Steveling wrote:
MMA didn't have his current work ethic in bw, just saying. Also he wasn't in the scene for long. Shortly after he joined sc2 was announced so he decided to play the new game since he didn't have any emotional ties with bw.
If he was playing bw as he is now, he would be s class. I was going to agree with you until you said he would be S class. Get that crap out of here, you have no idea what that means for BW We'll see when BW dies and he switches over. You're going to have to wait for a long time...as long as there is money to be made in BW, there is no way that Flash is switching over. The BW scene is anemicin my opinion. What do you guys get now? The occasional teamleague? Compare that to the endless amount of SC2 tournaments. There looks like there is much more money to be made in SC2, so money wont hold them forever. ...just saying I play SC2 more than I play BW LOL..so you're sort of grouping 'you guys' into the wrong category. The only problem with 'the occasional teamleague' is that it gets twice as many viewers in Korea, and it generates so much more money. Honestly, it's only in the international scene that SC2 is ahead of BW. Sometimes you can hear crickets in the SC2 GOM studio. =(
It's a league open every day of the work week, every month, all year long. Is there anything like that in BW? I'd be curious to know what sort of number they get. GSL seems to get anywhere from 10-100 people, depending on the players/ stage of the tournament. probably averaging around 20-30.
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I thought this would be a thread about Patrice O'neal... slightly disapointed.
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On January 29 2012 15:15 Apollo_Shards wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 15:12 FlyingDike wrote:On January 29 2012 15:05 Apollo_Shards wrote:On January 29 2012 15:02 FlyingDike wrote:On January 29 2012 14:47 Steveling wrote:
MMA didn't have his current work ethic in bw, just saying. Also he wasn't in the scene for long. Shortly after he joined sc2 was announced so he decided to play the new game since he didn't have any emotional ties with bw.
If he was playing bw as he is now, he would be s class. I hate it when people post silly statements such as yours. MMA would will never be as talented as Flash. Thank you for backing up that statement with your wonderful evidence and mountains of data. Since this is the internet I would be incredibly shocked to see somebody be hypocritical by calling someone who uses facts to back up their idea as silly and then post a blatant statement with no evidence. There is no sense in using reason against delusion. Your remarks do not apply to this case where the truth is obvious. EDIT: Also, your wrong in implying that he posted "evidence," as any half-witted individual can see. I'm right because I'm right because its obvious.
Nice try. It's actually your job to provide the evidence not his. Once you have done that only then does he have to refute it.
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i just realised this was posted on my birthday.....
does that mean....
im going to be the greatest SC2 player ever to live?
brb going to practice my signature 
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On January 29 2012 18:30 Uncultured wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 16:16 nvs. wrote:On January 29 2012 15:45 Whatson wrote:On January 29 2012 15:29 Apollo_Shards wrote:On January 29 2012 15:13 Whatson wrote:On January 29 2012 15:07 Apollo_Shards wrote:On January 29 2012 15:04 1Eris1 wrote:On January 29 2012 14:47 Steveling wrote:
MMA didn't have his current work ethic in bw, just saying. Also he wasn't in the scene for long. Shortly after he joined sc2 was announced so he decided to play the new game since he didn't have any emotional ties with bw.
If he was playing bw as he is now, he would be s class. I was going to agree with you until you said he would be S class. Get that crap out of here, you have no idea what that means for BW We'll see when BW dies and he switches over. You're going to have to wait for a long time...as long as there is money to be made in BW, there is no way that Flash is switching over. The BW scene is anemicin my opinion. What do you guys get now? The occasional teamleague? Compare that to the endless amount of SC2 tournaments. There looks like there is much more money to be made in SC2, so money wont hold them forever. ...just saying I play SC2 more than I play BW LOL..so you're sort of grouping 'you guys' into the wrong category. The only problem with 'the occasional teamleague' is that it gets twice as many viewers in Korea, and it generates so much more money. Honestly, it's only in the international scene that SC2 is ahead of BW. Sometimes you can hear crickets in the SC2 GOM studio. =( It's a league open every day of the work week, every month, all year long. Is there anything like that in BW? I'd be curious to know what sort of number they get. GSL seems to get anywhere from 10-100 people, depending on the players/ stage of the tournament. probably averaging around 20-30.
BW's live audience is much larger for sure.
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Please thread die... DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On January 29 2012 17:43 dsousa wrote:
Sase over ForGG 2-0 in the FXOpen... or
White Dude dominates former BW Proleague Champion and defeater of Flash.
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To be fair SaSe represents the other elephant (the WC3 one)
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I really wish some high-roller with deep pockets would make a bet with another high-roller with deep pockets about this issue.
Something like: "If 10 BW players with Proleague records better than MVP's switch to SC2, and none of them win a GSL title within 4 months of switching, I'll donate $100,000 to some charity or use it to fund a tournament."
That would make this thread interesting because it would give stakes to the argument, instead of it being just two sides going back and forth.
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On January 29 2012 21:27 Choboo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 17:43 dsousa wrote:
Sase over ForGG 2-0 in the FXOpen... or
White Dude dominates former BW Proleague Champion and defeater of Flash.
0.0 To be fair SaSe represents the other elephant (the WC3 one)
I don't think it's an elephant because people don't know what you mean. What do you mean?
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On January 29 2012 22:01 Squeegy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 21:27 Choboo wrote:On January 29 2012 17:43 dsousa wrote:
Sase over ForGG 2-0 in the FXOpen... or
White Dude dominates former BW Proleague Champion and defeater of Flash.
0.0 To be fair SaSe represents the other elephant (the WC3 one) I don't think it's an elephant because people don't know what you mean. What do you mean?
In the foriegner scene the war 3 switches have done better then the foreign bw switches in Star 2
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On January 29 2012 22:01 Squeegy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 21:27 Choboo wrote:On January 29 2012 17:43 dsousa wrote:
Sase over ForGG 2-0 in the FXOpen... or
White Dude dominates former BW Proleague Champion and defeater of Flash.
0.0 To be fair SaSe represents the other elephant (the WC3 one) I don't think it's an elephant because people don't know what you mean. What do you mean?
He means the wc3 pros. Sase was one of the foreigners that lived in China (wc3 mecca) and managed to compete with the Chinese players. Many people (at least in eu) have been discussing whether if players like sky, fly100%, infi,th000 will be able to dominate the sc2 scene since the mid tier and low tier wc3 players that switched over have had much success (nani, kas, thorzain, sjow etc.)
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On January 29 2012 22:06 Bd.Snake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 22:01 Squeegy wrote:On January 29 2012 21:27 Choboo wrote:On January 29 2012 17:43 dsousa wrote:
Sase over ForGG 2-0 in the FXOpen... or
White Dude dominates former BW Proleague Champion and defeater of Flash.
0.0 To be fair SaSe represents the other elephant (the WC3 one) I don't think it's an elephant because people don't know what you mean. What do you mean? In the foriegner scene the war 3 switches have done better then the foreign bw switches in Star 2
No they haven't, it's pretty much equal between the two games. There is no WC3 version of the elephant, that's ridiculous. Choboo doesn't understand the concept laid out in the OP.
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On January 29 2012 22:12 Eee wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 22:01 Squeegy wrote:On January 29 2012 21:27 Choboo wrote:On January 29 2012 17:43 dsousa wrote:
Sase over ForGG 2-0 in the FXOpen... or
White Dude dominates former BW Proleague Champion and defeater of Flash.
0.0 To be fair SaSe represents the other elephant (the WC3 one) I don't think it's an elephant because people don't know what you mean. What do you mean? He means the wc3 pros. Sase was one of the foreigners that lived in China (wc3 mecca) and managed to compete with the Chinese players. Many people (at least in eu) have been discussing whether if players like sky, fly100%, infi,th000 will be able to dominate the sc2 scene since the mid tier and low tier wc3 players that switched over have had much success (nani, kas, thorzain, sjow etc.)
That has already been answered by players like Grubby, Happy, Infi and Check.
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On January 29 2012 22:12 Eee wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 22:01 Squeegy wrote:On January 29 2012 21:27 Choboo wrote:On January 29 2012 17:43 dsousa wrote:
Sase over ForGG 2-0 in the FXOpen... or
White Dude dominates former BW Proleague Champion and defeater of Flash.
0.0 To be fair SaSe represents the other elephant (the WC3 one) I don't think it's an elephant because people don't know what you mean. What do you mean? He means the wc3 pros. Sase was one of the foreigners that lived in China (wc3 mecca) and managed to compete with the Chinese players. Many people (at least in eu) have been discussing whether if players like sky, fly100%, infi,th000 will be able to dominate the sc2 scene since the mid tier and low tier wc3 players that switched over have had much success (nani, kas, thorzain, sjow etc.)
But on the other hand some of (if not) the very best (Moon, Grubby) have not done that well. Including Sase himself. Seems to me that there is not all that much correlation between history in WC3 and SC2. I think the notion of elephant in the room was misunderstood by Choboo.
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On January 29 2012 17:43 dsousa wrote:
Sase over ForGG 2-0 in the FXOpen... or
White Dude dominates former BW Proleague Champion and defeater of Flash.
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What about Hyun ? He practised SC2 for 3 months and dominated Jinro who practises SC2 in the oGs house since SC2's release ? You can't deny the BW pro's results . in the end it's all about the practise amount that each player puts in to the game , but BW pros level increase that much quickly by having a lot of skills and experience from BW . Ain't it amazing how in the right environment they progress. A good example is SuperNova who when he switched made Code-S pretty quickly and now he is a top 5 terran .
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On January 29 2012 22:22 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 17:43 dsousa wrote:
Sase over ForGG 2-0 in the FXOpen... or
White Dude dominates former BW Proleague Champion and defeater of Flash.
0.0 What about Hyun ? He practised SC2 for 3 months and dominated Jinro who practises SC2 in the oGs house since SC2's release ? You can't deny the BW pro's results .
Seriously where do you guys get the facts for "he has been practicing for amount of time and he dominates bla bla bla" Please don't use that as an argument.
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On January 29 2012 22:34 Sanjuro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2012 22:22 raga4ka wrote:On January 29 2012 17:43 dsousa wrote:
Sase over ForGG 2-0 in the FXOpen... or
White Dude dominates former BW Proleague Champion and defeater of Flash.
0.0 What about Hyun ? He practised SC2 for 3 months and dominated Jinro who practises SC2 in the oGs house since SC2's release ? You can't deny the BW pro's results . Seriously where do you guys get the facts for "he has been practicing for amount of time and he dominates bla bla bla" Please don't use that as an argument.
I bet 6 months from now people will say ForGG started to practise 6 months ago.
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