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kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary492 Posts
August 23 2017 18:25 GMT
#221
Innovation still looks unbeatable in TvZ when it comes to bo5 / bo7 and finals.
Why so serious?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-23 18:41:34
August 23 2017 18:41 GMT
#222
On August 24 2017 03:25 kajtarp wrote:
Innovation still looks unbeatable in TvZ when it comes to bo5 / bo7 and finals.

In an offline Bo7 (like the GSL semis where Dark will meet Inno, if they both advance) I wouldn't favor any Zerg in the world against INnoVation. Not even Dark.
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kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary492 Posts
August 23 2017 20:09 GMT
#223
On August 24 2017 03:41 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2017 03:25 kajtarp wrote:
Innovation still looks unbeatable in TvZ when it comes to bo5 / bo7 and finals.

In an offline Bo7 (like the GSL semis where Dark will meet Inno, if they both advance) I wouldn't favor any Zerg in the world against INnoVation. Not even Dark.


Exactly. I know he lost some best of 3 games against Zergs here and there, but the longer the series the more i favour Inno. Thats too bad because i like when Zergs win.
Why so serious?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-23 20:56:13
August 23 2017 20:52 GMT
#224
On August 24 2017 05:09 kajtarp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2017 03:41 pvsnp wrote:
On August 24 2017 03:25 kajtarp wrote:
Innovation still looks unbeatable in TvZ when it comes to bo5 / bo7 and finals.

In an offline Bo7 (like the GSL semis where Dark will meet Inno, if they both advance) I wouldn't favor any Zerg in the world against INnoVation. Not even Dark.


Exactly. I know he lost some best of 3 games against Zergs here and there, but the longer the series the more i favour Inno. Thats too bad because i like when Zergs win.

Dark is very strong in ZvT, and he has the record to back it up. In 2017, he's 14-6 in offline ZvT series, a 70% winrate.

But Inno is just insane. His offline TvZ series record for 2017 is 28-3, over 90%. Twice as many wins and half as many losses. Simply put, there is no Zerg in the world that can stand up to peak Inno.
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TameNaken
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Australia361 Posts
August 24 2017 05:03 GMT
#225
Dark vs Innovation will be a great semi-final match if they can both make it through.

P.S. does anyone know how to get editing rights back again for the OP? It's been a few years since I made the thread and I can no longer edit it.
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
August 24 2017 08:38 GMT
#226
Ask there http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/195482-editing-old-posts
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
August 24 2017 14:24 GMT
#227
Why are people talking about how unbeatable Innovation is against Zerg when Dark destroyed him and eliminated him from the Master's Coliseum tournament 3-0?

Innovation failed to make the semi finals in both GSL's so far.

pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-24 15:48:47
August 24 2017 15:41 GMT
#228
On August 24 2017 23:24 Rolltide wrote:
Why are people talking about how unbeatable Innovation is against Zerg when Dark destroyed him and eliminated him from the Master's Coliseum tournament 3-0?

Innovation failed to make the semi finals in both GSL's so far.


Because online tournaments don't count for much. Inno (and every other player) can lose to just about anyone when they aren't taking things seriously. And his TvZ record in offline tournaments (which count for a lot more) is close to unbeatable. It's not rocket science.

Sure, he hasn't won a GSL yet this year. He has still won more big tournaments than any other player this year.

Don't get me wrong, Dark is a very tough opponent for any player (including Inno), but he won't be favored if they meet in the semis.
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TameNaken
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Australia361 Posts
September 02 2017 10:50 GMT
#229
Dark moves to the Semis, Inno moves to the Semis. We are about to see a sick Bo7.
Ukranian
Profile Joined April 2017
United Kingdom26 Posts
September 02 2017 11:32 GMT
#230
Dark and Solar are my 2 favorite players right now with Zest out of the picture and Rain playing broodwar. What sets Dark apart is that he is good enough to win this thing. He is good enough and solid enough to win the world championship.

He certainly has the best chance among the Zergs and he can match up well with the best players of the other 2 races. I don't see any foreigner taking him out though a match with Serral would be a fun ZvZ.

Myrddrael
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
September 02 2017 17:12 GMT
#231
Dark to win SSL and GSL? Definitely possible
Ukranian
Profile Joined April 2017
United Kingdom26 Posts
September 02 2017 18:59 GMT
#232
Dark should beat Dear and would be favored to beat Classic and a chance to beat Stats in SSL. After how he beat TY Innovation is certainly possible in GSL.

How about Stats? Already in the SSL final and in the GSL semi final. That's incredible. Having the best year ever.
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-04 15:41:49
September 04 2017 05:54 GMT
#233
Dark plays Dear in a few hours. If he wins that he will play classic on the 11th.

His match with Inno is on the 9th, Fri.
engesser1
Profile Blog Joined December 2016
264 Posts
September 04 2017 06:08 GMT
#234
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Maru, he is the reason why i'm still playing and watching sc2
Ukranian
Profile Joined April 2017
United Kingdom26 Posts
September 04 2017 12:48 GMT
#235
He's doing it mates. He's on to the semi final. Looked dicey in the first 2 games but made some adjustments and dominated after that.

Seeing that it is an all Protoss affair with Classic next and then Stats if he wins, preparation should be no problem. He can focus entirely on Innovation and Terran for the next 2 days.

kajtarp
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary492 Posts
September 04 2017 13:47 GMT
#236
If he beats Classic, Stats will be in a comfortable position. He can study so many games...
Why so serious?
PaztheLobster
Profile Joined September 2013
Philippines25 Posts
September 09 2017 09:19 GMT
#237
Does anyone know if Dark's Blizzcon spot is still secured?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55591 Posts
September 09 2017 11:01 GMT
#238
On September 09 2017 18:19 PaztheLobster wrote:
Does anyone know if Dark's Blizzcon spot is still secured?

He's safe, nobody outside the top 8 can overtake him.
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ghostmaster93
Profile Joined July 2017
155 Posts
September 09 2017 12:56 GMT
#239
Really great series by Dark.
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
September 09 2017 13:34 GMT
#240
This was more about Innovation's incredible play than Dark's lack of incredible play. Dark was very resilient and resourceful especially in that third game. Innovation might have been the only player in the world who could have beaten Dark that day.

Inno starts out with air attacks to force Dark into Hydras. Then he goes full mech which overpowers a Hydra army.

You could criticize Dark's aversion to Muta's which could have won him game 7. Inno had no marines and just a few Thors and Vikings. 25 Mutas could have given him air superiority and done a number on those tanks turning the tide in his favor.

It was also unusual to see a 7 game series in which the Zerg player doesn't at least one time try a Zerg run by attack or early Roach push. Inno put Dark on the defensive all series so give him credit. That's atypical of Inno to do bunker rushes.

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