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Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
September 09 2017 13:36 GMT
#241
I don't know if Classic or Stats can bring that caliber of game to Dark in SSL premier. I still see Dark winning that tournament.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
September 09 2017 17:23 GMT
#242
On September 09 2017 22:34 Rolltide wrote:
This was more about Innovation's incredible play than Dark's lack of incredible play. Dark was very resilient and resourceful especially in that third game. Innovation might have been the only player in the world who could have beaten Dark that day.

Inno starts out with air attacks to force Dark into Hydras. Then he goes full mech which overpowers a Hydra army.

You could criticize Dark's aversion to Muta's which could have won him game 7. Inno had no marines and just a few Thors and Vikings. 25 Mutas could have given him air superiority and done a number on those tanks turning the tide in his favor.

It was also unusual to see a 7 game series in which the Zerg player doesn't at least one time try a Zerg run by attack or early Roach push. Inno put Dark on the defensive all series so give him credit. That's atypical of Inno to do bunker rushes.


Well said. Dark played like a god all 7 games, especially that Game 3 hold. But he made a few small mistakes in the macro games and against Inno's mech that's a few mistakes too many.

Dark could've beaten any other Terran in the world easily, and he gave Inno one hell of a fight. Fortunately he still has SSL, and no Inno to worry about there.

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tabibitoto
Profile Joined April 2017
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-10 07:07:35
September 10 2017 06:32 GMT
#243
On September 09 2017 22:34 Rolltide wrote:
This was more about Innovation's incredible play than Dark's lack of incredible play. Dark was very resilient and resourceful especially in that third game. Innovation might have been the only player in the world who could have beaten Dark that day.

Inno starts out with air attacks to force Dark into Hydras. Then he goes full mech which overpowers a Hydra army.

You could criticize Dark's aversion to Muta's which could have won him game 7. Inno had no marines and just a few Thors and Vikings. 25 Mutas could have given him air superiority and done a number on those tanks turning the tide in his favor.

It was also unusual to see a 7 game series in which the Zerg player doesn't at least one time try a Zerg run by attack or early Roach push. Inno put Dark on the defensive all series so give him credit. That's atypical of Inno to do bunker rushes.


I think a handful of Queens+ Ultras would've sufficed to win him game 2 and 7, especially game 2.

Dark's late game strategy against Mech, was to first eliminate the Air threat using mass Vipers/Hydras, paving the way for the Broods/Hydras to obliterate the ground. Problem is: by the time he took out the air army, his Hydra count wasn't big enough to directly engage the Tanks and with Dark being the aggressor, Inno could rally Vikings fast enough to force the Broodlords to retreat.

With 3-5 Ultras to reduce the unit count (Thors/Hellbats) protecting the Tanks while also soaking Tank fire away from the Hydras allowing them to eliminate the Vikings with fewer losses; and with Queens transfusing the Broodlords long enough to take down the Tank count. If Zerg doesn’t overwhelm Terran, Dark can still max out on Ling/Hydra/Ultra to win the game. Incidentally, that's how he won Game 3 in SSL.
tabibitoto
Profile Joined April 2017
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-10 07:07:06
September 10 2017 07:06 GMT
#244
africola
Profile Joined March 2015
Germany35 Posts
September 10 2017 16:27 GMT
#245
add me! I'm a fanboy, admitting it finally.
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
September 13 2017 10:20 GMT
#246
Dark is streaming right now as I write this. Playing against Alive. A truly gifted player!

Regarding Dark's macro losses to Innovation. I always love Ravagers as a more muscular addition to the army than Hydras. They have 25% more firepower and can absorb 25% more hit points. With proper micro they can be good vs Seige tanks.

Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
September 17 2017 06:14 GMT
#247
Dark went 3-0 in his Super 'tournament qualifiers. He beat Rookie 2-0, Leenock 2-0 and Creator 2-0. He is on fire and despite his loss to Innovation at GSL still my favorite at blizzcon.

FYI Leenock was eliminated from the qualifier and since he had said this would be his last tournament he is now retired.

ghostmaster93
Profile Joined July 2017
155 Posts
September 24 2017 04:08 GMT
#248
Dark go in 1 hour. Go go Dark.
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-24 12:35:42
September 24 2017 12:29 GMT
#249
Frustrating loss to Stats 4-3. Did not play well in games 5 and 7. In game 5 he used Zerglings to attack pylons and really accomplished nothing. Should have attacked Stats' mineral line. Did not macro or micro especially well in game 7. Stats was very greedy in game 7 and a Zergling rush by Dark would have certainly won the map and the SSL title.

Still a nice run by Dark in both GSL and SSL and you would have to consider him the 3rd best player in the world only behind Innovation and Stats.

The top 5 players in the world right now in my opinion.

Innovation
Stats
Dark
TY
Neeb
SoO

ghostmaster93
Profile Joined July 2017
155 Posts
September 24 2017 17:07 GMT
#250
On September 24 2017 21:29 Rolltide wrote:
Frustrating loss to Stats 4-3. Did not play well in games 5 and 7. In game 5 he used Zerglings to attack pylons and really accomplished nothing. Should have attacked Stats' mineral line. Did not macro or micro especially well in game 7. Stats was very greedy in game 7 and a Zergling rush by Dark would have certainly won the map and the SSL title.

Still a nice run by Dark in both GSL and SSL and you would have to consider him the 3rd best player in the world only behind Innovation and Stats.

The top 5 players in the world right now in my opinion.

Innovation
Stats
Dark
TY
Neeb
SoO



I would replace soO by Gumiho. Gumi in the only player manage to steal a series from Innovation in last GSL.
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 08:35:49
September 29 2017 08:35 GMT
#251
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OMG! Dark just beat Bunny so bad 3-0. Like a honey badger vs a mouse!


Dark is on fire!
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
September 29 2017 08:46 GMT
#252
On September 25 2017 02:07 ghostmaster93 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2017 21:29 Rolltide wrote:
Frustrating loss to Stats 4-3. Did not play well in games 5 and 7. In game 5 he used Zerglings to attack pylons and really accomplished nothing. Should have attacked Stats' mineral line. Did not macro or micro especially well in game 7. Stats was very greedy in game 7 and a Zergling rush by Dark would have certainly won the map and the SSL title.

Still a nice run by Dark in both GSL and SSL and you would have to consider him the 3rd best player in the world only behind Innovation and Stats.

The top 5 players in the world right now in my opinion.

Innovation
Stats
Dark
TY
Neeb
SoO



I would replace soO by Gumiho. Gumi in the only player manage to steal a series from Innovation in last GSL.



I think Neeb will get rekt by any top Kor at blizzcon (like soO or gumi or TY...)

Also very good first match Dark, still hope for a Classic or INno vs Dark in finals.
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
October 20 2017 08:09 GMT
#253
Let's remember Blizzcon last year. Dark destroyed the 2 top foreign players back to back. He beat Neeb 3-0 in the rd of 8 and Elazer 3-0 in the semi final.

The obvious issue for Dark is being able to finish and win a big tournament. He is making the semi finals of every significant tournament he plays in(GSl s3-ST-Masters) and made the final of SSL but his inability to finish off those events against elite opposition suggests he likely cannot win Blizzcon. The talent is there. He will not stumble and fall to a lessor player.

TameNaken
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Australia361 Posts
October 20 2017 12:49 GMT
#254
I'm not sure about winning Blizzcon, winning Blizzcon won't be an easy path for anyone but I can see Dark making the semi-finals with a high probability. His hardest competition will come from Innovation, Stats and Rogue in my opinion.
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
October 21 2017 18:30 GMT
#255
It depends on the draw in the quarter finals. He could be playing anybody from circuit players like Neeb, Serral or Elazer to Innovation or Stats. Elazer made the semi finals last year because he got Showtime in the rd of 8.

Hero is in a similar position to Dark. A great talented player who is in very good form right now.

TameNaken
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Australia361 Posts
October 30 2017 07:11 GMT
#256
Dark is eliminated at the hands of Elazer TT. Congratulations to Elazer.
Ukranian
Profile Joined April 2017
United Kingdom26 Posts
October 30 2017 14:14 GMT
#257
He really took the loss hard. He will have a great year in 2018.
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
October 30 2017 16:17 GMT
#258
It is tough to have a ZvZ as decider match. It is very volatile. So unfortunate for Dark.
ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
October 31 2017 03:52 GMT
#259
he was not in good shape at all. I saw the games he played vs herO and realized that he would be eliminated later if he keep play like that, and he actually gone earlier.
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
October 31 2017 19:36 GMT
#260
On October 31 2017 12:52 ParksonVN wrote:
he was not in good shape at all. I saw the games he played vs herO and realized that he would be eliminated later if he keep play like that, and he actually gone earlier.

Not just Dark. Some Koreans seem not on tip-top form for BlizzCon at all. TY and Stats are all shaky. Stats is of course gone now. His first game vs Special was the worst game I ever saw from him in big stage. TY was barely making it through though he has been a bit of weaker form compared to early this year. Stats has been very consistent until BlizzCon. Completely fell off the cliff.
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