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NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-17 21:33:43
July 17 2018 18:05 GMT
#4781
Damn I had some doubts but it seems like he's really going to stream until the voting for GSL vs The World closes today

Edit: Okay he didn't actually manage to stream until the voting closes (but he turned of only like 10 mins before the deadline so that's still great). He was very thankful for everyone who voted for him.
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
July 28 2018 22:25 GMT
#4782
What do you guys think about Zest's chance in GSL vs The World? Tbh I'm not really liking it one bit. Zest is facing ShoWTimE in his first match, and if he wins it then he's going to meet the winner of soO vs Maru. Tough chance really...

Even so, ShoWTimE is very good at PvP and I think he's going to put up a tough fight (and he has proven himself recently I think)...
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
July 28 2018 23:09 GMT
#4783
On July 29 2018 07:25 NinjaToss wrote:
What do you guys think about Zest's chance in GSL vs The World? Tbh I'm not really liking it one bit. Zest is facing ShoWTimE in his first match, and if he wins it then he's going to meet the winner of soO vs Maru. Tough chance really...

Even so, ShoWTimE is very good at PvP and I think he's going to put up a tough fight (and he has proven himself recently I think)...


Sharing the sentiment. Showtime 3-0 Stats recently and looked like he understands the matchup very well, Maru is Maru and soO before finals... I don’t have any hope this time for Zest .

On the other hand if he gets past these 2 series it will be a nice mini-achievement in itself :-)
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 28 2018 23:24 GMT
#4784
I don't think showtime is a really big threat even with the online wins vs stats and inno, but i also don't see zest winning vs maru tbh. That finals loss was way too onesided for me to even imagine how zest would beat maru in a bo5.

With that being said crazier things have happened before so we'll see. (and yes i don't think soO has any shot vs maru, at least zest plays toss )
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
July 29 2018 01:43 GMT
#4785
Should beat Showtime comfortably. His PvP is always top notch. And Stats is always rubbish online for some reason.

But yeah can't see him doing anything against Maru after those gsl finals. I think we can safely write soO off. :p
Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
July 29 2018 22:49 GMT
#4786
Yeah Maru is gonna be insanely tough. He is killing it on stream though and he’s at 6.9k mmr right now so I guess we’ll see what happens.
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
July 31 2018 10:42 GMT
#4787
Just watched his games in masters coliseum. He won againts Classic, Trap and Impact. The last game vs Impact was crazy from Zest.

I dont see him losing to Showtime (both of them in good form so i hope to see a good PvP), but i also dont see him winning againts Maru.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
August 02 2018 09:08 GMT
#4788
Lmao. I was so wrong. So much for his PvP always being top notch. Looked like garbage today.
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
August 02 2018 09:19 GMT
#4789
Doesnt matter if u have superior micro if u make dumb stubborn decesions like attacking into cannons and shield batteries.
First game nice throw.
Also i doubt he prepared for showtime it was clear when he tried to cannon rush him.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
August 02 2018 09:23 GMT
#4790
Well that's the worst performance I've seen from Zest in a long time. I don't understand what was going on with his decisions.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
DarkGamer
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany323 Posts
August 02 2018 12:09 GMT
#4791
I got a completly other view of the games. zest had good builds which would have killed almost anyone. but showtime was very well prepared and read the games perfectly. it was a very high class pvp.
i guess what many ppl dont get is that a transition in some situations to a third base isnt possible (like beeing 2 upgrades and 3 immortals behind).
the only point i didnt get is how showtime did know in some parts that zest is so committed.

sad is, that zest didnt prepare for showtime in particular: otherwise the canon rush fail could have been avoided.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 02 2018 16:09 GMT
#4792
I said a while ago that I wasn't sold on his PvP - he's done well in the matchup since, but today he showed the exact same weaknesses I mentioned then. His decisionmaking really isn't that great, especially once the game goes beyond opening build orders and you're looking at a third base and upgrades. He almost forces himself into these really all-in situations that shouldn't work against a solid defensive player, and Showtime is just that.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
August 02 2018 16:45 GMT
#4793
This series reminded me of his series against herO earlier in the year at GSL Supertournament. Just extreme aggression with weird decision making.
Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
August 08 2018 13:39 GMT
#4794
Zest got a very doable group with Leenock, Trap, and herO.
Plopus
Profile Joined November 2014
Switzerland112 Posts
August 13 2018 06:59 GMT
#4795
On August 08 2018 22:39 Lil_nooblet wrote:
Zest got a very doable group with Leenock, Trap, and herO.


That's true but he is really inconsistent at the moment. So I am a bit afraid for him. Still, he did well in the last GSL, so I hope he can do it again
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 13 2018 08:17 GMT
#4796
The good news is that Zest is #1 on the Korean ladder right now, with an account slightly above 7k MMR. He just won a Basetrade cup beating Cure, Innovation and Trap, and I believe he's also the one who won the most recent Anonymous tournament.

Of course there's been trouble translating online to offline form for him, but the fundamental skill should be there for him to win the group and do well in this GSL.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
ADTempys
Profile Joined December 2017
Finland60 Posts
August 13 2018 11:08 GMT
#4797
Never count Zest out, he is going to kill it
Zest is Best
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
August 14 2018 02:04 GMT
#4798
On August 02 2018 21:09 DarkGamer wrote:
I got a completly other view of the games. zest had good builds which would have killed almost anyone. but showtime was very well prepared and read the games perfectly. it was a very high class pvp.
i guess what many ppl dont get is that a transition in some situations to a third base isnt possible (like beeing 2 upgrades and 3 immortals behind).
the only point i didnt get is how showtime did know in some parts that zest is so committed.

sad is, that zest didnt prepare for showtime in particular: otherwise the canon rush fail could have been avoided.

If Zest had taken showtime seriously, then it would have been a 3-0 win for Zest. You could see how devastated he was after losing. I've been saying this - he is highly motivated right now and is about to go on an absolute tear. Any foreigner he meets at blizzcon will not be shown any mercy.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
August 14 2018 04:49 GMT
#4799
On August 14 2018 11:04 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2018 21:09 DarkGamer wrote:
I got a completly other view of the games. zest had good builds which would have killed almost anyone. but showtime was very well prepared and read the games perfectly. it was a very high class pvp.
i guess what many ppl dont get is that a transition in some situations to a third base isnt possible (like beeing 2 upgrades and 3 immortals behind).
the only point i didnt get is how showtime did know in some parts that zest is so committed.

sad is, that zest didnt prepare for showtime in particular: otherwise the canon rush fail could have been avoided.

If Zest had taken showtime seriously, then it would have been a 3-0 win for Zest. You could see how devastated he was after losing. I've been saying this - he is highly motivated right now and is about to go on an absolute tear. Any foreigner he meets at blizzcon will not be shown any mercy.


As long as it's not a zerg anyway.
Plopus
Profile Joined November 2014
Switzerland112 Posts
August 15 2018 08:23 GMT
#4800
I didn't see the match but Zest lost to aLive yesterday (Olimoleague 130). I am quite surprised. I know that Zest usually needs specific preparation to fully show what he can do but still.
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