EPTPhoenixes when used right can pick up Marauders and take the meat out of an army and they are ideal for picking off Medivacs and Vikings.
That's my favorite build now.
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Rolltide
United States447 Posts
Phoenixes when used right can pick up Marauders and take the meat out of an army and they are ideal for picking off Medivacs and Vikings. That's my favorite build now. | ||
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On July 25 2017 07:27 NinjaToss wrote: being at HSC in person and withness him winning was FUCKING SURREAL, and it was probably the highlight of my year. Hearing everyone chanting Zest is Best was really touching for me, and I think it felt the same way for him as well. He had a lot of fun afterward, I think he's totally motivated now. So what you're saying is you were at the last 2 HSCs and both times Zest made the final, but he has neither hired nor married you for good luck yet. | ||
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NinjaToss
Austria1383 Posts
On July 25 2017 07:57 Elentos wrote: So what you're saying is you were at the last 2 HSCs and both times Zest made the final, but he has neither hired nor married you for good luck yet. Last year I wasn't able to watch the Finals => He lost the Finals This year I was at the Finals => He won the Finals I think there's clearly a connection and he should totally marry me for good luck On July 25 2017 07:35 Olli wrote: I saw you on stream, knew you'd enjoy that! Oh it felt amazing to actually see him winning in person, of course I would enjoy it. Too bad you guys weren't around, I felt like I was one of the only few people actually cheering for Zest there | ||
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Rolltide
United States447 Posts
Obviously they must have at least one translator available to help these guys when they come off the plane, take a cab to the hotel and get situated. Somebody had to help them with getting to the venue and knowing the schedule. In 2015 when Zest was at Katowice they asked him to say a word for the Polish fans in the audience. He said "Thank you, I love you". That was charming but it also indicates he was not comfortable with much else. My wife is from the Philippines and her mom probably knows as much English as Zest does. If you tried to interview her she would say something like that. | ||
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On July 25 2017 15:43 Rolltide wrote: They need to have a Korean translator so they can properly interview these guys. Byun and Zest simply don't know English well enough to do an interview in that language. I felt sorry for them. Obviously they must have at least one translator available to help these guys when they come off the plane, take a cab to the hotel and get situated. Somebody had to help them with getting to the venue and knowing the schedule. In 2015 when Zest was at Katowice they asked him to say a word for the Polish fans in the audience. He said "Thank you, I love you". That was charming but it also indicates he was not comfortable with much else. My wife is from the Philippines and her mom probably knows as much English as Zest does. If you tried to interview her she would say something like that. Inviting Solar was proposed by several fans, including myself, because he would be both an amazing player and excellent translator, especially because he is so close with many progamers (being one himself). But yeah, the idea of needing a translator is definitely correct. Without one guys like Zest can't really say anything meaningful. As an example of how this language barrier can distort perception, Inno is apparently regarded as a pretty funny guy in Korea, contrasting sharply with his utterly robotic reputation among foreigners (we caught a glimpse at NationWars). | ||
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Rolltide
United States447 Posts
Zest could not get an automatic WCS place because it is for circuit players only but the money and the points should be available to anybody. It should be like an IEM. The winner of Dreamhack Montreal gets 3000 WCS points and $25,000. 2nd place is $10,000 and 1400 points. I think they should apply to either side. Now I know what Blizzard is afraid of. It would not just be Zest. It would a few other Koreans on the bubble who will be coming over for those points and it will end up being 4 Koreans in the top 8 and an all Korean finals. Would not bother me at all. | ||
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Rolltide
United States447 Posts
Great idea! That could be a job opportunity for Polt after he finishes in the army. A guy who speaks English really well and certainly knows Starcraft inside and out. He would be a great interviewer-translator-anaylst. | ||
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Plopus
Switzerland112 Posts
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
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swissman777
1106 Posts
On July 25 2017 15:50 pvsnp wrote: Inviting Solar was proposed by several fans, including myself, because he would be both an amazing player and excellent translator, especially because he is so close with many progamers (being one himself). But yeah, the idea of needing a translator is definitely correct. Without one guys like Zest can't really say anything meaningful. As an example of how this language barrier can distort perception, Inno is apparently regarded as a pretty funny guy in Korea, contrasting sharply with his utterly robotic reputation among foreigners (we caught a glimpse at NationWars). Pretty sure Inno gives the same interviews, albeit it got better recently. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On July 25 2017 07:27 NinjaToss wrote: being at HSC in person and withness him winning was FUCKING SURREAL, and it was probably the highlight of my year. Hearing everyone chanting Zest is Best was really touching for me, and I think it felt the same way for him as well. He had a lot of fun afterward, I think he's totally motivated now. so i do have a decent memory, i hesitated if that was you in the background on stream glad you enjoyed it | ||
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Rolltide
United States447 Posts
That brings up another issue. Many casters live in Korea and as a result speak Korean well. Artosis, Tasteless, Wolf, Valdez, Rapid. Any of them would have been a nice addition. I know nobody seems to like Rapid but the casting of HSC is so informal and ridiculous at times he would have actually fit in. | ||
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zakadar
Germany409 Posts
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lidary
Russian Federation51 Posts
Or he streams randomly? ^^ | ||
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Rolltide
United States447 Posts
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lidary
Russian Federation51 Posts
On July 27 2017 23:49 Rolltide wrote: I don't think there is a formal schedule. He's streaming right now and was streaming yesterday. Given his popularity he should stream every time he practices online. Always 500-600 people or more watching him. Thank you ^^ yeah. many many many many people | ||
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ghostmaster93
155 Posts
On July 25 2017 15:43 Rolltide wrote: They need to have a Korean translator so they can properly interview these guys. Byun and Zest simply don't know English well enough to do an interview in that language. I felt sorry for them. Obviously they must have at least one translator available to help these guys when they come off the plane, take a cab to the hotel and get situated. Somebody had to help them with getting to the venue and knowing the schedule. In 2015 when Zest was at Katowice they asked him to say a word for the Polish fans in the audience. He said "Thank you, I love you". That was charming but it also indicates he was not comfortable with much else. My wife is from the Philippines and her mom probably knows as much English as Zest does. If you tried to interview her she would say something like that. Actually, Japanese, Korean and Chinese usually has trouble with learning English since their language do not follow Anphabet characters (character from A-Z) and they have very high national pride. And Philipines has long time being US's colony so I think it's only natural. | ||
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ghostmaster93
155 Posts
On July 25 2017 16:24 Rolltide wrote: This is one thing about the current WCS structure that I do not like. Why couldn't a guy like Zest play in a Dreamhack and get the WCS points for the Korean standings? I'm talking about Montreal in September. Zest could not get an automatic WCS place because it is for circuit players only but the money and the points should be available to anybody. It should be like an IEM. The winner of Dreamhack Montreal gets 3000 WCS points and $25,000. 2nd place is $10,000 and 1400 points. I think they should apply to either side. Now I know what Blizzard is afraid of. It would not just be Zest. It would a few other Koreans on the bubble who will be coming over for those points and it will end up being 4 Koreans in the top 8 and an all Korean finals. Would not bother me at all. Well what you said is basically what happen before 2013 and 2015 Global Finals. The Koreans come to all tournaments in NA and Europe and basically owning all. To me, I prefer the current system. It's not perfect, but it has shorten the distance between Koreans scene and Foreigner scene. And I think to Blizzard, growing SC2 in foreigner scene is more easier than growing SC2 in korean scene which had been declining due to the nation love to BroodWar. | ||
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