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bestiszest
Profile Joined March 2015
France103 Posts
June 29 2017 10:25 GMT
#3481
and out now ...
Kt Rolster Zest and TY myboys freaking teamkills :'(
kingszmc
Profile Joined February 2017
3 Posts
June 29 2017 10:26 GMT
#3482
What happened to his PVP?
evolsiefil
Profile Joined October 2015
143 Posts
June 29 2017 12:01 GMT
#3483
how exactly did he get so bad all of a sudden? this really pains me
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
June 29 2017 12:26 GMT
#3484
The guy who tried a Canon rush in PL finals
TL+ Member
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
July 01 2017 12:04 GMT
#3485
The top player in European ladder right now is a Protoss and his name is a bar code.

Not Showtime, he is ranked 2nd. Neeb is 22nd. I don't think it is Drogo either because the record is 66-16 and Drogo would have a lot more games than that. All the European pros have 300+ games on that ladder.

I'm guessing a Korean Protoss is playing part time on the European ladder.

Zest playing today against Impact for SSL. Surely he can beat Impact?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 01 2017 12:09 GMT
#3486
Not sure about that PvZ today, i think it can go either way tbh
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
July 01 2017 12:21 GMT
#3487
On July 01 2017 21:04 Rolltide wrote:
The top player in European ladder right now is a Protoss and his name is a bar code.

Not Showtime, he is ranked 2nd. Neeb is 22nd. I don't think it is Drogo either because the record is 66-16 and Drogo would have a lot more games than that. All the European pros have 300+ games on that ladder.

I'm guessing a Korean Protoss is playing part time on the European ladder.

Zest playing today against Impact for SSL. Surely he can beat Impact?


It's Showtime
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 01 2017 14:15 GMT
#3488
I mean there is nothing you can say anymore tbh
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Saggymidgetbooty6969
Profile Joined September 2015
112 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-01 14:21:54
July 01 2017 14:19 GMT
#3489
On July 01 2017 23:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I mean there is nothing you can say anymore tbh

You can say plenty, Protoss is in the worst shape balance wise in years, (43% PvT, 42% PvZ in the month of June, sample size 1000 pro games)
He lost to impact yes but what protoss has beaten impact recently?
U guys need to stop this circlejerk that zest is shit, he still has the best PvP in the world (find 1 person with a positive winratio vs Zest in PvP i dare you.)

The other matchups are basically impossible, even more so for Zest than other players because his playstyle is numbers oriented not gimmicks oriented, thats why he has terrible form vs Zerg and Terran, but so does every toss, he just does a bit more
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-01 14:20:10
July 01 2017 14:19 GMT
#3490
Yikes!

0-2 loss to Impact. Horrible play. While he sends 2 Oracles to harass Impact's bases he is attacked with a Zergling rush and almost wiped out. Never recovered enough to have a chance. Had to use too much money just trying to catch up in workers.

Game 2 more of a macro game Zest just out executed by Impact who hit him with a lot of Roaches and Ravagers. Zest screws up by losing his mothership core early in the fight.

At this point he is playing like a tier one masters league player. Why he is so good on ladder and so horrible on lands is beyond me.

SoS was not much better losing 1-2 to Bunny with a nonsensical game one build where he had over 50 Zealots and 9 oracles.

[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 01 2017 14:22 GMT
#3491
On July 01 2017 23:19 Rolltide wrote:
At this point he is playing like a tier one masters league player. Why he is so good on ladder and so horrible on lands is beyond me.

I don't understand it either, and that makes me pretty sad
Rolltide
Profile Joined May 2017
United States447 Posts
July 01 2017 14:25 GMT
#3492
On July 01 2017 23:19 Saggymidgetbooty6969 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2017 23:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I mean there is nothing you can say anymore tbh

You can say plenty, Protoss is in the worst shape balance wise in years, (43% PvT, 42% PvZ in the month of June, sample size 1000 pro games)
He lost to impact yes but what protoss has beaten impact recently?


Quick recognition of the Zergling rush and sending his oracles back to base asap could have saved 10 probes. That has nothing to do with game balance.

Zealot charge upgrade is now cheaper, 100/100 instead of 200/200. That's a way to even things up though SoS over did it. Zest did not have a mothership core a cardinal sin against Zerg whose early attack units(Zerglings-Baelings-roaches) do not shoot up and for overcharge.

Between GSL and SSl that is 3 straight losses for Zest in which he lost maps 1-6.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
July 01 2017 14:29 GMT
#3493
I mean it's not about this one match, it's about everything Zest has produced in the last weeks/months.
I really hope he can back and be relevant in high lvl sc2, but it's just sad watching him play atm :/
Zest fighting
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 01 2017 16:02 GMT
#3494
The best players are way better than what you would find on the ladder
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 01 2017 16:07 GMT
#3495
While players like soO benefit from being teamless. Zest needs someone to tell him what to do
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
July 01 2017 16:17 GMT
#3496
He was bad last year too, just look at the PL finals, his coach told him to canon rush because he knew Zest wasnt able to macro against a decent player
TL+ Member
Lil_nooblet
Profile Joined March 2016
United States459 Posts
July 01 2017 16:46 GMT
#3497
On July 02 2017 01:17 DieuCure wrote:
He was bad last year too, just look at the PL finals, his coach told him to canon rush because he knew Zest wasnt able to macro against a decent player

He slumped from like july to september last year but near the end of the year he was playing a lot better right before the team disbanded.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
July 01 2017 17:17 GMT
#3498
Stop mentioning Proleague guys you're making me extra sad
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 01 2017 17:59 GMT
#3499
Nah he went on a slump after he picked Taeja for his group in GSl and got eliminated by him. But he had pretty much recovered by blizzcon time. He had a good shot of winning if he hadn't messed up vs Stats.

It was the new patch release + KT loss that ruined him
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Plopus
Profile Joined November 2014
Switzerland112 Posts
July 02 2017 07:49 GMT
#3500
On July 02 2017 01:07 Fango wrote:
While players like soO benefit from being teamless. Zest needs someone to tell him what to do


I'm not really sure that the lack of team is the major factor. Zest's level was already decreasing at the end of the proleague and the lasts season of GSL last year. I think it's more about the meta. I think he is not really adapting and if you add this lack of adaptation to the fact that the balance doesn't seem to be really okay at the moment for protoss...
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