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Silvana
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Elentos
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On August 10 2016 22:37 Silvana wrote: I just hope whatever virus Zest got today is not passed to TY as well. Watch out TY! Get away from him! Well in that case you should be more concerned with Zest's roommate Stats, who also has a match tomorrow. | ||
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Silvana
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Elentos
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On August 10 2016 22:45 Silvana wrote: Oh no. He's already done then. TY better stay away from Stats too. He should just stay away from everyone on the team so he doesn't catch the virus. Maybe spend the day at home or something. | ||
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zakadar
Germany409 Posts
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zakadar
Germany409 Posts
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Elentos
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Silvana
3713 Posts
But tbf I wasnt expecting him beat Dark. (I can now say it without being a downer) | ||
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On August 11 2016 21:56 Silvana wrote: *sigh* But tbf I wasnt expecting him beat Dark. (I can now say it without being a downer) I expected him to lose as well (but maybe 3-2 with some choking). At least he didn't go full Zest and play like shit, he played quite well. | ||
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Silvana
3713 Posts
On August 11 2016 21:59 Elentos wrote: I expected him to lose as well (but maybe 3-2 with some choking). At least he didn't go full Zest and play like shit, he played quite well. Thats true, but Im worried about the toll these results can take on their mentalities -.- Im gonna have to scream my lungs out to cheer them! | ||
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Wallenberg
203 Posts
 also out.. I dont know what to think about Zests game against Patience. Before he joined the freecs ppl was refeering to him as a B-protoss. But I never understood that, I watched his stream while being rank 1 GM, with sick apm. Patience is really good, and now recently been picking up some decent results in PRO-L. Heart and brain says Zest would own, but the last days had me worrying... I hope Zest reaches SSL-Finals. | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Zest can beat Patience I don't think anyone can doubt that, he shoudl logically stomp Dear again and go vs Dark in the finals. | ||
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evolsiefil
143 Posts
On August 11 2016 23:10 Fango wrote: TY didn't play bad but Dark is just a macro god. I think TY has good chance of advancing his GSL group though. Zest can beat Patience I don't think anyone can doubt that, he shoudl logically stomp Dear again and go vs Dark in the finals. zest vs classic final. classic is gonna murder dark. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
TY will always be the player with potential to win the big title but will never get there huh? :/ | ||
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On August 12 2016 00:22 The_Red_Viper wrote: Oh man TY -.- TY will always be the player with potential to win the big title but will never get there huh? :/ I think if his opponent in the GSL finals hadn't been Zest he'd be a GSL champion now. Also we can look on the bright side - TY lost a hard fought series (closer than the scoreline would suggest) playing at maybe just a bit below his top level against Dark who was absolutely on point (seriously he was crazy good) and is already a top player. Much more honorable than Zest's loss the other day. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Kinda sad for him because he always was the kid with the insane potential but apparently it will never lead to anything big :/ Didn't see the matches today, but will check them out later! | ||
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Elentos
55571 Posts
On August 12 2016 01:18 The_Red_Viper wrote: Yeah sure but the end result is the same: no title. Kinda sad for him because he always was the kid with the insane potential but apparently it will never lead to anything big :/ You're giving up a bit early now, aren't you? His tournament results (esp. in Korea) got better every year since he joined KT. He can still get the gold. As long as there are tournaments left to play in by next year. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On August 12 2016 02:01 Elentos wrote: You're giving up a bit early now, aren't you? His tournament results (esp. in Korea) got better every year since he joined KT. He can still get the gold. As long as there are tournaments left to play in by next year. Not really giving up, but to me it looks like he just doesn't have the right mentality to be a champion. He will always be extremely good though. | ||
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dazed25
3566 Posts
On August 12 2016 01:15 Elentos wrote: I think if his opponent in the GSL finals hadn't been Zest he'd be a GSL champion now. Also we can look on the bright side - TY lost a hard fought series (closer than the scoreline would suggest) playing at maybe just a bit below his top level against Dark who was absolutely on point (seriously he was crazy good) and is already a top player. Much more honorable than Zest's loss the other day. I disagree with the part about a bit below his top level. He did make some games very close when they shouldn't have been however. I do think TY has a few higher gears and I feel like he needs to sort out his late game. Dark's macro is insane and I would never favor TY in a game that goes end game. Even in HOTS he would either kill the opponent through his multi-task harass or a combination of insane micro tricks (remember that thor drop on soO's banelings?) but he would usually end up running out of steam when it actually came to close a game out through a big engagement. I thought it changed in LoTV but it still seems like an issue. Especially in that game where he had no idea what to do against Dark's air army (throwing away ravens and vikings and not splitting vs. parasitic bombs). Not that the result of the game would have been different but he just seemed so blah about the way he played the end of that game. I wish he still had Flash as an example of a macro terran to learn from on his team. KT ByuN please. I really do worry about KT as a whole going forward especially in regards to SKT. SKT has players like soO, Dark, and Innovation who are just macro monsters and once the game's meta gets figured out they become really scary in straight up play. In the past (LoTV) we've always been able to beat them because we come up with some creative strategies or aggressive timings (especially our Protoss). I do wonder what's going on in the KT house however in terms of chemistry and the coaching. I remember last year I wanted to blame the coach because they would have some really silly strategies and player choices for PL but that might be an easy scape goat this time around. | ||
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Elentos
55571 Posts
What I'm kinda questioning is his decision-making in the midgame, actually. He always seems way too content to throw down an extra CC and do less pressure while slightly overmaking workers compared to other Terrans on the same level. Same New Gettysburg game, TY just gets ahead in supply while they macro along (trading 1 or 2 units here and there) and expands more without pushing further. Then he was at 75 workers for at least 10 minutes of the game. The same as the Zerg who doesn't have MULEs. On Frost he was making a safe 3rd in his base and then made a greedy low ground 4th that got cancelled and subsequently he was on 3 bases for a long ass time. I'm not even sure having ByuN or Flash on the team would help tbh. Well for one, ByuN thinks TY is the best Terran right now so he probably wouldn't think he could teach him too much. But mostly, TY plays the game in a hugely stylistic way. Most Terrans go for the double medivac stim drop in TvZ a lot, by which I mean a loooooooooooot. TY has never done that build in a tournament match. Instead he does hellion/banshee, hellion drops, mine drops, tankivac plays. That 2 tank push TY did on Frost is not something other players do a lot, and I don't think any other Terran is as comfortable as TY is with his commonly late stim timings. Macro gods ByuN, Flash and INnoVation much rather do the same standard build every game and beat their opponent to death with it. TY does his own thing. I want to give huge props to Dark though. His performance was incredibly on-point. I think if he played even just slightly worse TY would have won the match for sure. If he just drops out of GSL now while playing mostly the same matchup I'll be pissed though.  | ||
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