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My prayers answered! Avilo vs solo on basetradetv! GOGO avilo!
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Well played vs JIG in game 2. That was intense.
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Too bad you had to play the last game against Jig on Daedalus Point. Rifkin gave you big props casting your game though for good manners and just playing the game anyways and throughout all of game 2. Hopefully that can turn some of the hate away!
Wish you could have qualified since you had a very reasonable draw with no protosses, but it was a really good showing. Hopefully you can get even better and qualify in season 2.
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On January 03 2014 12:56 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2014 12:45 captainwaffles wrote:On January 03 2014 12:16 avilo wrote:On January 03 2014 09:34 captainwaffles wrote:On January 03 2014 06:58 Shebuha wrote:On January 03 2014 05:49 captainwaffles wrote:On January 03 2014 01:46 Arkansassy wrote:Other than the fact that the members of Root (with the exception of perhaps two of their members) have obviously sniped avilo (too much of a coincidence imo to be matched up with a Root member more than 4-5 times in a row) they are just plain hateful toward avilo for no good reason other than the fact they don't like him. Of course, if I don't like someone, I just avoid him/her - maybe that's too mature. If I had been with avilo the night he did the showmatch v minigun, I would have vehemently discouraged his decision.Too many times, he has played Root members who were reported to be in Skype with the opponent and on avilo's stream at the same time.  I'm not saying that this was the case that night, but my decision would have been based on the fact that avilo was off his game earlier and was extremely tired when I left him. At one time I had had hopes for the SC Community, because there are a lot of nice people involved, but it seems the haters always win out and that's a sad statement to make. Avilo's chat was one of the nicest, most fun places to be and viewers enjoyed it, because the mods protected viewers against BM. The haters have tried to ruin it for us and even though people keep telling me that "the more viewers, the more trolls" I don't understand why that has to be. Surely, parents have brought they're kids up better and would be mortified if they knew how extremely rude and repulsive they're kids are online. I'm hoping that this New Year will bring more compassion and caring for others - both online and off. Cheating on ladder proves nothing. Hateful trolling, in part, is some misguided kid, who is angry and disappointed with his/her own life and has to vent for their own well being, albeit in a very destructive way. They need to feel a part of something and it's much easier to jump on the haters bandwagon than to stand up and fight for those upon whom the hate is thrust. Wishing you all a better New Year. Yeah it wouldn't have anything to do with his constant BM, balance whine, inability to take shit which he himself dishes out everyday, accusing well known pros of stream cheating/map hacking after every loss. This isn't anything that hasn't been mentioned before so I'll keep this short with a simple sentence: Any "hate" avilo gets he brought on himself if you honestly think its undeserved then Idk what to tell you. I find it very strange that Avilo's fanbase emphasizes being nice and discourages BM as a whole while proclaiming that Avilo himself doesn't BM -- that he's the victim. That isn't the case though. I've played Avilo on the ladder, lost, and gotten BM'ed. I didn't snipe him, didn't stream cheat, I lost the game. Usually it was a stomp in the super late game and I still get BM'ed or whined at. It's the same when I watch his stream. He can hardly go a game without making a silly claim about balance or what have you whether it's provoked or not. He brings it on himself indeed. Theres nothing strange about it, he just a hypocrite. Whats funny about it though is he'll say for example root players "bm him" and pretend to be angels everywhere else and here is doing the same exact thing, bming the fuck out of everyone and then when he gets called out he tries (keyword tries) to spin some kind of BS. Oh you must have seen the game where i played a rootseed player and they thought it was perfectly acceptable to just insta unpause the game because it's "avilo." There are some people that think it's perfectly ok to BM me just because other people in the community do it, then they do it too because it's trendy or some shiot. The difference is if I BM someone on ladder it's usually in fun and i'm just trolling...and i never personally insult them about who they are. I'll call someone bad every now and then, sure. Or gimmicky. I never insult their own person, nor would i want to. On January 03 2014 11:14 Lyyna wrote:
The problem with Avilo is that his goals are right, but the ways he's trying to achieve them are awful...
he wants to help terrans to get better with guides and tips and analysis and innovative play, but he's trying to brag and give all credits to himself (may be ironical or not... but what matters is how it is perceived by most people, and this is affected by his overall behavior) whenever someone else does something similar, be it fellow foreigners streamers, or koreans pro in streamed tournaments
He wants to point flaws in balance and the overall game, but ends up talking about it every single hour of the day, tries to prove his ideas with whatever (sometimes unrelated) things he can get his hands on and attributes a lot of his losses to this
He's denouncing the terrible attitude some people have about him, but ends up being as much as a jerk than these people, and making it even worse by often raging and yelling at some random people for whatever reasons
He's trying to get respected and known, but he himself fuel his haters and make it worse by saying "i don't care lol" even when people just want to help him by pointing what makes him hated by a lot.. for some good reasons
You know me Sassy, i have often been on his stream, never offensive or whatever, i'm not an hardcore fan who'll follow him until death, i'm not an hater wanting to burn him right now, i could be considered a rival because i'm in the same "niche" of spreading mech in the community, but well, i'm really just the average guy enjoying the original play of one of the few remaining terran streamers, and i just want to give a realistic insight about this. Avilo could be a really great part of the community : he's someone who dares to try stuff, to speak freely, and who is ok with sharing his knowledge and advices. But for that, he has to shut down his "cocky non-caring-about-criticism bitchy" side, or he'll just be remembered like "that whiner who plays mech and is known because he rages more than Idra and made a couple of funny guides who acts like he's the man who made every single terran metagame evolution happen and sometimes say smart things... covered by a layer of rage"
Take it as you want obviously... Just wanting to help everyone, you, your fans, the community.. But at some point, when so many people tells you the same things again and again and again about your flaws, considering what you want to achieve, you should try to improve yourself instead of just ignoring them, blaming them, or acting like it's totally undeserved When the majority of games on ladder you end up playing end up being vs Protoss every game abusing all-ins and nexus cannon...it's a bit unavoidable to discuss balance at that point. On January 03 2014 09:23 darthfoley wrote:
Avilo is an odd character.
I was also apparently one of the people who should die because in my head, I pronouced it aveelo. lmao :D never would i wish such a thing upon you for mispronouncing my username haha. Thanks for watching the stream  On January 03 2014 05:49 captainwaffles wrote:On January 03 2014 01:46 Arkansassy wrote:Other than the fact that the members of Root (with the exception of perhaps two of their members) have obviously sniped avilo (too much of a coincidence imo to be matched up with a Root member more than 4-5 times in a row) they are just plain hateful toward avilo for no good reason other than the fact they don't like him. Of course, if I don't like someone, I just avoid him/her - maybe that's too mature. If I had been with avilo the night he did the showmatch v minigun, I would have vehemently discouraged his decision.Too many times, he has played Root members who were reported to be in Skype with the opponent and on avilo's stream at the same time. I'm not saying that this was the case that night, but my decision would have been based on the fact that avilo was off his game earlier and was extremely tired when I left him. At one time I had had hopes for the SC Community, because there are a lot of nice people involved, but it seems the haters always win out and that's a sad statement to make. Avilo's chat was one of the nicest, most fun places to be and viewers enjoyed it, because the mods protected viewers against BM. The haters have tried to ruin it for us and even though people keep telling me that "the more viewers, the more trolls" I don't understand why that has to be. Surely, parents have brought they're kids up better and would be mortified if they knew how extremely rude and repulsive they're kids are online. I'm hoping that this New Year will bring more compassion and caring for others - both online and off. Cheating on ladder proves nothing. Hateful trolling, in part, is some misguided kid, who is angry and disappointed with his/her own life and has to vent for their own well being, albeit in a very destructive way. They need to feel a part of something and it's much easier to jump on the haters bandwagon than to stand up and fight for those upon whom the hate is thrust. Wishing you all a better New Year. Yeah it wouldn't have anything to do with his constant BM, balance whine, inability to take shit which he himself dishes out everyday, accusing well known pros of stream cheating/map hacking after every loss. This isn't anything that hasn't been mentioned before so I'll keep this short with a simple sentence: Any "hate" avilo gets he brought on himself if you honestly think its undeserved then Idk what to tell you. You are one of the most dedicated avilo haters of late. Get it straight. I do not accuse known pros of stream cheating/hacking ever. You and other little haters continue this BS with no context to the situation. I have played known players before that were on barcodes metagaming the fuck out of me, and to any outside observer it would look like the guy was stream sniping in some way, and possibly stream cheating. Not my fault i didn't know some d00d sniping me was on a barcode. If you honestly think i ever accuse known players of cheating, something is wrong with you. I never would. This is what me and Lynna were talking about lol. Why would you even quote lynna if you're just going to ignore his constructive criticisms? Unlike me he still thinks theres hope for you I think this post of yours will show him that you are hopeless to become a positive in the scene You really don't get it you do? I can't believe how dense you are. Your actions alone have warranted any negative actions people do onto you. Simple as that, look in the mirror if you want to find out why people would bm you. You accuse everyone (Known players, random masters players, etc) of cheating all the time If you're gonna put your head in the sand and deny it and go la la la thats fine don't expect me to put any effort into pulling up examples with timestamps from your VODs. Tbh I think Kane said it best: "you have to understand he's not a mentally stable individual. it's completely obvious he has some sort of disability (i.e. autism, aspergers, etc.). You can't take anything he says seriously; no healthy individual would say half the stuff he says." (source: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1u4jly/why_is_avilo_so_mean_to_everyone_he_calls/ceefq3x) Not going to respond to you anymore, except with: You need to go to jelly school, immediately.
Haha good one Avilo. "Jelly school". That quote is going in Phrase of the Day for sure. It's also just begging for a cartoonist to draw a picture of a school full of strawberry jelly or something.
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On January 19 2014 03:49 codonbyte wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2014 12:56 avilo wrote:On January 03 2014 12:45 captainwaffles wrote:On January 03 2014 12:16 avilo wrote:On January 03 2014 09:34 captainwaffles wrote:On January 03 2014 06:58 Shebuha wrote:On January 03 2014 05:49 captainwaffles wrote:On January 03 2014 01:46 Arkansassy wrote:Other than the fact that the members of Root (with the exception of perhaps two of their members) have obviously sniped avilo (too much of a coincidence imo to be matched up with a Root member more than 4-5 times in a row) they are just plain hateful toward avilo for no good reason other than the fact they don't like him. Of course, if I don't like someone, I just avoid him/her - maybe that's too mature. If I had been with avilo the night he did the showmatch v minigun, I would have vehemently discouraged his decision.Too many times, he has played Root members who were reported to be in Skype with the opponent and on avilo's stream at the same time. I'm not saying that this was the case that night, but my decision would have been based on the fact that avilo was off his game earlier and was extremely tired when I left him. At one time I had had hopes for the SC Community, because there are a lot of nice people involved, but it seems the haters always win out and that's a sad statement to make. Avilo's chat was one of the nicest, most fun places to be and viewers enjoyed it, because the mods protected viewers against BM. The haters have tried to ruin it for us and even though people keep telling me that "the more viewers, the more trolls" I don't understand why that has to be. Surely, parents have brought they're kids up better and would be mortified if they knew how extremely rude and repulsive they're kids are online. I'm hoping that this New Year will bring more compassion and caring for others - both online and off. Cheating on ladder proves nothing. Hateful trolling, in part, is some misguided kid, who is angry and disappointed with his/her own life and has to vent for their own well being, albeit in a very destructive way. They need to feel a part of something and it's much easier to jump on the haters bandwagon than to stand up and fight for those upon whom the hate is thrust. Wishing you all a better New Year. Yeah it wouldn't have anything to do with his constant BM, balance whine, inability to take shit which he himself dishes out everyday, accusing well known pros of stream cheating/map hacking after every loss. This isn't anything that hasn't been mentioned before so I'll keep this short with a simple sentence: Any "hate" avilo gets he brought on himself if you honestly think its undeserved then Idk what to tell you. I find it very strange that Avilo's fanbase emphasizes being nice and discourages BM as a whole while proclaiming that Avilo himself doesn't BM -- that he's the victim. That isn't the case though. I've played Avilo on the ladder, lost, and gotten BM'ed. I didn't snipe him, didn't stream cheat, I lost the game. Usually it was a stomp in the super late game and I still get BM'ed or whined at. It's the same when I watch his stream. He can hardly go a game without making a silly claim about balance or what have you whether it's provoked or not. He brings it on himself indeed. Theres nothing strange about it, he just a hypocrite. Whats funny about it though is he'll say for example root players "bm him" and pretend to be angels everywhere else and here is doing the same exact thing, bming the fuck out of everyone and then when he gets called out he tries (keyword tries) to spin some kind of BS. Oh you must have seen the game where i played a rootseed player and they thought it was perfectly acceptable to just insta unpause the game because it's "avilo." There are some people that think it's perfectly ok to BM me just because other people in the community do it, then they do it too because it's trendy or some shiot. The difference is if I BM someone on ladder it's usually in fun and i'm just trolling...and i never personally insult them about who they are. I'll call someone bad every now and then, sure. Or gimmicky. I never insult their own person, nor would i want to. On January 03 2014 11:14 Lyyna wrote:
The problem with Avilo is that his goals are right, but the ways he's trying to achieve them are awful...
he wants to help terrans to get better with guides and tips and analysis and innovative play, but he's trying to brag and give all credits to himself (may be ironical or not... but what matters is how it is perceived by most people, and this is affected by his overall behavior) whenever someone else does something similar, be it fellow foreigners streamers, or koreans pro in streamed tournaments
He wants to point flaws in balance and the overall game, but ends up talking about it every single hour of the day, tries to prove his ideas with whatever (sometimes unrelated) things he can get his hands on and attributes a lot of his losses to this
He's denouncing the terrible attitude some people have about him, but ends up being as much as a jerk than these people, and making it even worse by often raging and yelling at some random people for whatever reasons
He's trying to get respected and known, but he himself fuel his haters and make it worse by saying "i don't care lol" even when people just want to help him by pointing what makes him hated by a lot.. for some good reasons
You know me Sassy, i have often been on his stream, never offensive or whatever, i'm not an hardcore fan who'll follow him until death, i'm not an hater wanting to burn him right now, i could be considered a rival because i'm in the same "niche" of spreading mech in the community, but well, i'm really just the average guy enjoying the original play of one of the few remaining terran streamers, and i just want to give a realistic insight about this. Avilo could be a really great part of the community : he's someone who dares to try stuff, to speak freely, and who is ok with sharing his knowledge and advices. But for that, he has to shut down his "cocky non-caring-about-criticism bitchy" side, or he'll just be remembered like "that whiner who plays mech and is known because he rages more than Idra and made a couple of funny guides who acts like he's the man who made every single terran metagame evolution happen and sometimes say smart things... covered by a layer of rage"
Take it as you want obviously... Just wanting to help everyone, you, your fans, the community.. But at some point, when so many people tells you the same things again and again and again about your flaws, considering what you want to achieve, you should try to improve yourself instead of just ignoring them, blaming them, or acting like it's totally undeserved When the majority of games on ladder you end up playing end up being vs Protoss every game abusing all-ins and nexus cannon...it's a bit unavoidable to discuss balance at that point. On January 03 2014 09:23 darthfoley wrote:
Avilo is an odd character.
I was also apparently one of the people who should die because in my head, I pronouced it aveelo. lmao :D never would i wish such a thing upon you for mispronouncing my username haha. Thanks for watching the stream On January 03 2014 05:49 captainwaffles wrote:On January 03 2014 01:46 Arkansassy wrote:Other than the fact that the members of Root (with the exception of perhaps two of their members) have obviously sniped avilo (too much of a coincidence imo to be matched up with a Root member more than 4-5 times in a row) they are just plain hateful toward avilo for no good reason other than the fact they don't like him. Of course, if I don't like someone, I just avoid him/her - maybe that's too mature. If I had been with avilo the night he did the showmatch v minigun, I would have vehemently discouraged his decision.Too many times, he has played Root members who were reported to be in Skype with the opponent and on avilo's stream at the same time. I'm not saying that this was the case that night, but my decision would have been based on the fact that avilo was off his game earlier and was extremely tired when I left him. At one time I had had hopes for the SC Community, because there are a lot of nice people involved, but it seems the haters always win out and that's a sad statement to make. Avilo's chat was one of the nicest, most fun places to be and viewers enjoyed it, because the mods protected viewers against BM. The haters have tried to ruin it for us and even though people keep telling me that "the more viewers, the more trolls" I don't understand why that has to be. Surely, parents have brought they're kids up better and would be mortified if they knew how extremely rude and repulsive they're kids are online. I'm hoping that this New Year will bring more compassion and caring for others - both online and off. Cheating on ladder proves nothing. Hateful trolling, in part, is some misguided kid, who is angry and disappointed with his/her own life and has to vent for their own well being, albeit in a very destructive way. They need to feel a part of something and it's much easier to jump on the haters bandwagon than to stand up and fight for those upon whom the hate is thrust. Wishing you all a better New Year. Yeah it wouldn't have anything to do with his constant BM, balance whine, inability to take shit which he himself dishes out everyday, accusing well known pros of stream cheating/map hacking after every loss. This isn't anything that hasn't been mentioned before so I'll keep this short with a simple sentence: Any "hate" avilo gets he brought on himself if you honestly think its undeserved then Idk what to tell you. You are one of the most dedicated avilo haters of late. Get it straight. I do not accuse known pros of stream cheating/hacking ever. You and other little haters continue this BS with no context to the situation. I have played known players before that were on barcodes metagaming the fuck out of me, and to any outside observer it would look like the guy was stream sniping in some way, and possibly stream cheating. Not my fault i didn't know some d00d sniping me was on a barcode. If you honestly think i ever accuse known players of cheating, something is wrong with you. I never would. This is what me and Lynna were talking about lol. Why would you even quote lynna if you're just going to ignore his constructive criticisms? Unlike me he still thinks theres hope for you I think this post of yours will show him that you are hopeless to become a positive in the scene You really don't get it you do? I can't believe how dense you are. Your actions alone have warranted any negative actions people do onto you. Simple as that, look in the mirror if you want to find out why people would bm you. You accuse everyone (Known players, random masters players, etc) of cheating all the time If you're gonna put your head in the sand and deny it and go la la la thats fine don't expect me to put any effort into pulling up examples with timestamps from your VODs. Tbh I think Kane said it best: "you have to understand he's not a mentally stable individual. it's completely obvious he has some sort of disability (i.e. autism, aspergers, etc.). You can't take anything he says seriously; no healthy individual would say half the stuff he says." (source: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1u4jly/why_is_avilo_so_mean_to_everyone_he_calls/ceefq3x) Not going to respond to you anymore, except with: You need to go to jelly school, immediately. Haha good one Avilo. "Jelly school". That quote is going in Phrase of the Day for sure. It's also just begging for a cartoonist to draw a picture of a school full of strawberry jelly or something.
It's from South Park tho lol look it up :D
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BREAKING NEWS *** BREAKING NEWS *** BREAKING NEWS *** BREAKING NEWS *** BREAKING NEWS
AVILO BEATS MINIGUN IN ZOTAC NA CUP USING MECH! THATS RIGHT FOLKS!! AVILO BEAT PROTOSS WITH MECH!!!!! AND THE PROTOSS WAS MINIGUN!! WHO'S ACTUALLY GOOD!!!! AND MINIGUN WENT CARRIERS!! HE WENT STRAIGHT TO CARRIERS!!!! YET SOMEHOW, AVILO MANAGED TO SPANK HIS BROKEN ASS!!!
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On January 19 2014 09:08 codonbyte wrote:
BREAKING NEWS *** BREAKING NEWS *** BREAKING NEWS *** BREAKING NEWS *** BREAKING NEWS
AVILO BEATS MINIGUN IN ZOTAC NA CUP USING MECH! THATS RIGHT FOLKS!! AVILO BEAT PROTOSS WITH MECH!!!!! AND THE PROTOSS WAS MINIGUN!! WHO'S ACTUALLY GOOD!!!! AND MINIGUN WENT CARRIERS!! HE WENT STRAIGHT TO CARRIERS!!!! YET SOMEHOW, AVILO MANAGED TO SPANK HIS BROKEN ASS!!!
Minigun threw away the game by storming his own units, all i can say lmao
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what the hell?!
Where is my avilo opinion on balance test map 1/24
I've been waiting all day to read it
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On January 24 2014 13:09 neoghaleon55 wrote:what the hell?! Where is my avilo opinion on balance test map 1/24 I've been waiting all day to read it
I think he is uploading/has uploaded a metagame update, so hold fast! :D
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Fanclub has been updated, guys, with PROOF that Avilo is NOT the only one to say that protoss is underpowered, although he does seem to get 100% of the hate for it.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PPEISVn.png)
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^ Taeja is a notorious balance whiner...
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Plus I dont think anyone ever disagreed with the fact that you can be slow and a good protoss player, also that the race is less mechanically intensive (not that Avilo would know much about that but that's a discussion for later  )
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u have been railing against Blizzard's balance team for a long while now.
if u have little faith in their ability to make a solid balanced game...
isn't it time to .. as Lebron James stated...
take your talents to... some other game?
there are lots of competitive games that you can earn a decent living playing.
why not consider switching to a different game Avilo ?
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You going to qualify tonight Avilo? Good luck! Hope you've done everything you could do to prepare.
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avilo i challenge u bo5 ;3 with prize for winner do you accept?
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welcome to mech #ENDERSGAMEONBLURAY
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LOL!! This kid Avilo is raging hard!! whining non-stop on his stream right now!! kicking his chair and throwing cups!! OMG LOL!
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On February 20 2014 06:15 Jornada wrote:
LOL!! This kid Avilo is raging hard!! whining non-stop on his stream right now!! kicking his chair and throwing cups!! OMG LOL!
1st time tuning in?
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