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Pogomais
Profile Joined April 2012
Mexico48 Posts
July 16 2012 10:46 GMT
#8321
On July 16 2012 19:42 finkelboy wrote:
Can you explain bettere the 5+ overlords stuff? I can't understand how making so many overlord at once help you to be more reactive and make the perfect unit combo..


Because if you have 120/150 you can produice 30 supply
And when you are at 120/128 you cant
finkelboy
Profile Joined December 2008
Italy372 Posts
July 16 2012 10:48 GMT
#8322
On July 16 2012 19:45 NeonFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 19:42 finkelboy wrote:
Can you explain bettere the 5+ overlords stuff? I can't understand how making so many overlord at once help you to be more reactive and make the perfect unit combo..


Dunno if we are speaking about the same thing, but DRG does it too. After lair in ZvP when you are scouting the protoss you basically have the choice to macro hard, pump units for the 12:00 max and attack the third, or defend. What some zergs do is free up enough supply to be able to do any of those possibilities, scout and be able to make 10+ drones or pump mass roach the second they know what's up.


Got it, thx for the explanation
Ma jae yoon, what else? By.hero next bonjwa
Mr Mauve
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom386 Posts
July 16 2012 11:06 GMT
#8323
Congratulations Stephano!

I'm monstrously late to this party but please sign me up if the doors are open!
Hello! How are you today?
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
July 16 2012 11:37 GMT
#8324
He said in an interview he would be only playing GSTL and not GSL in Korea. A bit sad, even if winning code S with just a one-season shot would have been really hard and near impossible I would have liked to see him try at least
Kuni
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Austria765 Posts
July 16 2012 12:05 GMT
#8325
I'm not sure we should be sad about it. Yes, the GSL is the most prestigious tournament, but being able to prepare an entire week for one single opponent is something completely different than facing various players throughout a single weekend, where specific preparation is not possible. Whether one is more interesting than the other depends on the viewer I guess.

Still, he beats GSL players on a regular basis everywhere and an action packed tournament over a weekend is much more fun than a 1 month GSL. + more money for him :-)
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Ylrahc
Profile Joined September 2011
France496 Posts
July 16 2012 12:12 GMT
#8326
On July 16 2012 19:15 Makro wrote:
edit : lol btw i didn't notice Johan Lucchesi ‏@QuanticNaNi
so thankful for @millstephano playing sc2, making it so that there is a reason to train to become best foreigner )) motivational!

shit just got real

Stephano doesn't give a damn to be the best foreigner, he wants to be the best, period Only lesser players focus on lesser objectives, it says everything about Naniwa ! (/troll)

Anyway, impressive run at NASL3, especially against MC, it truly was a final before the hour.
Shadow and dust
zedrOne
Profile Joined May 2010
France471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-16 12:58:57
July 16 2012 12:25 GMT
#8327
note :
stop arguing with arkazon, it's just useless.

I just wanna say my take on GSL :

I never see the internationnal and Korean scene like the majority of SC audience.
GSL got a legacy, but for me that's all. Some say, the best game are played in GSL so you need to watch / follow / adore GSL, I disagree.
I find most of GSL matches boring. I don't deny that some of Nestea, DRG and Leenock game where crazy good to watch, but it's more the exeption that the norm in my opinion. Add the fact that most korean don't have any personality (not all) and are just boring in Interview, I dont see the point of following GSL.

Maybe it's the prize money that make it such a great event ?
Well, the repartition of the money is so bad, that unless you win it all, it's not a great Time investment.
Loosing a full season lengh to play GSL, i dont really want stephano doing that, and i understand if he don't want to do it.

GSTL appeals to me more, because of the team format, the all kill possibility bring excitement, the pressure on the shoulder of the last player or the ace in some important match, the fact that you dont know for sure witch player the adversary will send and so on. for me a player doing great in GSTL matches after matches is more amazing that a one shoot win at GSL.

The fact that i dont really like GSL make me "value" player streng differently than most, and curiously, this last month have been really good for my prediction. The level difference between EU and Korea was never so big in my opinion, and it narrow at every internationnal event with korean in it. I dont really think the korean got less good and the rest of the world better, I believe that lot of them already win the matches before it started, because the rest of the world used to think they already lost.
(I must agree that a big majority of korean got amazing mechanics, better than the rest of the world, but mechanics only dont make you win every game)

This seams to go away, slowly, for some of the top player. (it never was a problem for stephano, 'cause he dont care who the fuck he is playing against)

So stephano in Code S ?
For what ? If he loose everybody gonna say "Korean OP", if he win, they will way "it's just one time MVP got 4 !"
Money ? like I say, it's not a good time investment, unless you win it all. Stephano say he actually think he his the best zerg in the world, he doesnt have to prove it to anybody, but he is smart enought to understand that being the best in the world dont mean that you win every game. the time he need to stay in korea for winning a GSL is not really worth it.
(I refer to the interview after winning, where he say "i'm the best in the world")

To conclude, a word about naniwa. (the player, not the man)
I really think that his choice are bad. but i respect his dedication and stubbornness. If he was able to elevate is level of play like he did, and play a lot of non-GSL event with the focus he need to win, he could be the most succefull player in SC2. winning more money and tournament than almost anybody. He prefer to focus only on GSL, and maybe never winning it.
Not the best choice for his exposure (or his team exposure on international scene), not the best choice for his earning in SC2. Unless he manage to win one. In a way, it's a gamble, and naniwa it's just the guy capable of doing it.

Since nani got to korea, how many tournament stephano win or place top 5 ? how many money the win in tournament earning ?


I just Hope MC win this GSL, and come back to an internationnal event and got stomped again by stephano. (it's not against MC, i really like the guy, on of the rare korean to have a personality)

(sry for the big wall of text, and the bad english)

LockeTazeline October 31 2012 06:02. Posts 166 : A Bo9 is really just a Bo1 played 9 times.
Kuni
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Austria765 Posts
July 16 2012 12:33 GMT
#8328
No problem brah, I understood everything you said and agree :-)
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Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
July 16 2012 12:41 GMT
#8329
On July 16 2012 21:25 zedrOne wrote:
Stephano say he actually thing he his the best zerg in the world


if you mean "think", Stephano said recently that he thinks DRG is the best zerg in the world.
Meggiroth
Profile Joined March 2012
239 Posts
July 16 2012 12:44 GMT
#8330
Lol I can't belive i'm reading this ignorant bs.

@zedrOne You follow sc2 progaming for the interviews? And also, "they don't have any personality" that sounds so dumb and racist it hurts my head.
The GSL matches are more spectacular and amazing than any foreign event, but you couldn't really notice that if your focus is on what i mentioned above.
"He who fishes in other man’s well often catches crabs." - Confucius
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
July 16 2012 12:49 GMT
#8331
i really don't understand why stephano should focus on GSL whereas he has the chance to make a lot of international event, however training in korea is very useful

this is why i'm happy that stephano doesn't want compete in gsl, gsl system is good for korean who live there and need to make themselves, a lot of korean want to compete in international event, it's really a chance

yes it's good to have in his achievement "gsl champion" but stephano doesn't need this to still have a scary list of achievement
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Dawg_Snow
Profile Joined September 2011
France425 Posts
July 16 2012 12:54 GMT
#8332
He doesn't really care about achievments, he wants cash. And GSL is not the best way to get it. Moreover, if he plays in GSL we will see MUCH less games from him wich is sad.

The GSL would double their season ticket sales though xD
Stephano, Sarens, Tarson, Mana, MMA, MVP -- Dawg EU Master Terran
Meggiroth
Profile Joined March 2012
239 Posts
July 16 2012 12:56 GMT
#8333
Stephano doesn't care about GSL. And GSL basicaly represents the crown of "Best SC2 player in the world".
Stephano wants money and maybe some international fame at best and for that he only needs to participate in foreign tournaments thats why he only wants to go to korea for only a month of training so he can win more foreign tournaments.
If he wanted to continue his progaming career for more years I'm sure he would have played GSL until he would have won it but as he wants to quit this year and only wants the largest amount of money in the shortest time, winning as many foreign events as possible until he quits is the best way to go for him.
"He who fishes in other man’s well often catches crabs." - Confucius
Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
July 16 2012 12:57 GMT
#8334
I disagree Stephano needs a GSL championship to really be seen as a legend.
NaNiwa | Innovation | Flash | DeMuslim ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
July 16 2012 13:00 GMT
#8335
@zedrone : obviously you're not gonna find them interesting if you don't watch. In GSL there is so much room for metagaming and surprise, two games are never the same. If it was just that i could understand, but saying mc is one of the only Koreans with personality shows you're just ignorant. Know what you're talking about man.

But then i could hardly understand anything you said. Could you at least make an effort ? You're utterly unreadable.
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
July 16 2012 13:02 GMT
#8336
On July 16 2012 21:57 Fus wrote:
I disagree Stephano needs a GSL championship to really be seen as a legend.


Eventhough I don't care if Stephano plays in the GSL or not , I do agree that to be seen as a legend of Sc2 being the first and only foreigner to win a GSL , that helps a lot !
rly ?
Karalius
Profile Joined January 2008
Lithuania271 Posts
July 16 2012 13:03 GMT
#8337
On July 16 2012 21:57 Fus wrote:
I disagree Stephano needs a GSL championship to really be seen as a legend.

I disagree.
Meggiroth
Profile Joined March 2012
239 Posts
July 16 2012 13:05 GMT
#8338
On July 16 2012 21:57 Fus wrote:
I disagree Stephano needs a GSL championship to really be seen as a legend.

True but if he would achieve that and show all the other slacking foreigners that its possible, all the SC2 scene would be changed and the korean vs foreigner imbalance would also change because a lot of foreigners would be more motivated.
"He who fishes in other man’s well often catches crabs." - Confucius
Dawg_Snow
Profile Joined September 2011
France425 Posts
July 16 2012 13:08 GMT
#8339
winning a GSL would really crown him on top of Starcraft and would make him a legend when he retires
Stephano, Sarens, Tarson, Mana, MMA, MVP -- Dawg EU Master Terran
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
July 16 2012 13:13 GMT
#8340
On July 16 2012 22:08 Dawg_Snow wrote:
winning a GSL would really crown him on top of Starcraft and would make him a legend when he retires


legend or not people will remember of him, stephano did already a lot
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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