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Well, he has done the hardest part in this tournament.
But let's hope he does not pull a Sase or a Mana, aka not playing his best versus supposedly worse opponent.
(and please keep him away from alcohol :p)
edit: according to his twitter, the alcohol part will be avoided, but maybe not the underestimation of his opponent...
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Well played Stephano. Hero and MC were both crushed today!
We will have to see how the Finals go tomorrow. Hopefully he can win as this current slump is hampering his results...
;+D
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dear god please, protect him from alcohol for tonight
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Think we should all tweet him and politely ask him to save the alcohol until tomorrow night
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Stephano is gaurenteed 15k Dollars the dude makes to much money in 10 months he has made 145k dollars since his win at IPL 3! o.0
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On July 15 2012 09:53 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2012 09:52 The_Darkness wrote:On July 15 2012 09:47 Azarkon wrote:On July 15 2012 09:45 Ireniicus wrote:On July 12 2012 06:59 Azarkon wrote:On July 12 2012 05:00 The_Darkness wrote:On July 12 2012 02:54 Azarkon wrote:On July 12 2012 02:41 a3den wrote:On July 12 2012 01:58 Khonsou wrote:
Well, I hope he gets his sh*t together because he didn't look scary at all the last couple of time his games were shown. I agree, for the first time in a long time, I feel like he's gonna get bodied at NASL & MLG Summer. Too much travel takes its toll, and I know he says he doesn't need much practice to be good, but that's too little right now. Fortunately, Korea is around the corner so the timing isn't that bad. Yeah, HerO is a huge challenge for him in great form, and he isn't in great form. I said that one day, the music is going to end for Stephano - is this going to be that day? Are you implying that if Stephano loses to Hero his career is over -- or that he's no longer an elite player? It's idiotic to suggest that a loss to Hero would imply some sort of failing on the part of any Zerg. DRG just got spanked by Hero in the IPL imports tournament so perhaps, if you're suggesting that losing to Hero means you're done, you should alert DRG's fans to the fact that "music has ended" for DRG, if you haven't already. Also, since you're not a fan of Stephano, why do you bother posting in this fanclub? By the sycophantic definition of fandom, I am not a fan of any player, because I refuse to be a sychophant who gives players a pass whenever they lose / make mistakes, and who over hypes them at the cost of objectivity. Yet, I do think I am a fan of Stephano, because I have a special attachment to his play and character and will tune in to events that he attends specifically to watch him play and to root for him - which is the better definition of fandom, in my opinion. But whether you think I'm a fan, it has no bearing on posting in the fanclub because the way TL fanclubs operate, they are discussion threads for individual players, and because what I'm saying is specific to Stephano, it belongs nowhere else. With that out of the way, I am not saying that if Stephano loses to HerO his career is over. Rather, I am musing on whether this is going to be the beginning of a slump for Stephano. His refusal to practice ZvZ - and inability to practice hard towards addressing his weaknesses - was bound to bite him, and I have been observing declines in his play from about 2-3 months prior. Presently speaking, I don't think he's ready for HerO, and failing in the first round of NASL is not going to do well for his confidence. Furthermore, with no time in between NASL finals, IEM quals, and MLG Summer Arena, he won't have an opportunity to regain his form after it. It has all the setup of an incoming slump period, and with it the end of his reputation of being the best NA / EU player. That is what I'm talking about when I say that the music is ending - Stephano gets a pass in a lot of areas because he is the best NA / EU player. He is able to, for example, forfeit tournaments repeatedly without losing his sponsorship, and without tournament organizers banning him from their events. When he streams, he is able to get >9000 viewers. All of this is because he is the best, and that is the reputation he has to maintain for the music and the parties to continue. Ummmm you were saying? I was wrong? Happy to be so. Stephano prepared well for this tournament. You're able to tell it from the variety of styles he showed. He wasn't a one trick pony this tournament and that moves his play forward. I'm glad for that. You were wrong about just about everything you said. Stephano has always been able to play these styles. Did you base your entire analysis on Dreamhack? No I wasn't. First of all, he hasn't shown he's gotten over his ZvZ, which was my primary criticism of him and is a larger problem by far. Second, no, it wasn't just DH - remember the tournament before that one when he lost to SaSe on his way to the finals?
Azarkon's analysis is without foundation. Stephano's only weakness is his partying which affects him the next day. Bar that he appears to be able to play at Super GM level consistently.
Azarkon...Who is playing at their ability...no one because everyone can improve and should always strive to do so. Your views are silly.. Results indicate that he is by a country mile he is the most consistent player outside of Korea and on his day can beat anyone on the planet.
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On July 15 2012 10:07 Ireniicus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2012 09:53 Azarkon wrote:On July 15 2012 09:52 The_Darkness wrote:On July 15 2012 09:47 Azarkon wrote:On July 15 2012 09:45 Ireniicus wrote:On July 12 2012 06:59 Azarkon wrote:On July 12 2012 05:00 The_Darkness wrote:On July 12 2012 02:54 Azarkon wrote:On July 12 2012 02:41 a3den wrote:On July 12 2012 01:58 Khonsou wrote:
Well, I hope he gets his sh*t together because he didn't look scary at all the last couple of time his games were shown. I agree, for the first time in a long time, I feel like he's gonna get bodied at NASL & MLG Summer. Too much travel takes its toll, and I know he says he doesn't need much practice to be good, but that's too little right now. Fortunately, Korea is around the corner so the timing isn't that bad. Yeah, HerO is a huge challenge for him in great form, and he isn't in great form. I said that one day, the music is going to end for Stephano - is this going to be that day? Are you implying that if Stephano loses to Hero his career is over -- or that he's no longer an elite player? It's idiotic to suggest that a loss to Hero would imply some sort of failing on the part of any Zerg. DRG just got spanked by Hero in the IPL imports tournament so perhaps, if you're suggesting that losing to Hero means you're done, you should alert DRG's fans to the fact that "music has ended" for DRG, if you haven't already. Also, since you're not a fan of Stephano, why do you bother posting in this fanclub? By the sycophantic definition of fandom, I am not a fan of any player, because I refuse to be a sychophant who gives players a pass whenever they lose / make mistakes, and who over hypes them at the cost of objectivity. Yet, I do think I am a fan of Stephano, because I have a special attachment to his play and character and will tune in to events that he attends specifically to watch him play and to root for him - which is the better definition of fandom, in my opinion. But whether you think I'm a fan, it has no bearing on posting in the fanclub because the way TL fanclubs operate, they are discussion threads for individual players, and because what I'm saying is specific to Stephano, it belongs nowhere else. With that out of the way, I am not saying that if Stephano loses to HerO his career is over. Rather, I am musing on whether this is going to be the beginning of a slump for Stephano. His refusal to practice ZvZ - and inability to practice hard towards addressing his weaknesses - was bound to bite him, and I have been observing declines in his play from about 2-3 months prior. Presently speaking, I don't think he's ready for HerO, and failing in the first round of NASL is not going to do well for his confidence. Furthermore, with no time in between NASL finals, IEM quals, and MLG Summer Arena, he won't have an opportunity to regain his form after it. It has all the setup of an incoming slump period, and with it the end of his reputation of being the best NA / EU player. That is what I'm talking about when I say that the music is ending - Stephano gets a pass in a lot of areas because he is the best NA / EU player. He is able to, for example, forfeit tournaments repeatedly without losing his sponsorship, and without tournament organizers banning him from their events. When he streams, he is able to get >9000 viewers. All of this is because he is the best, and that is the reputation he has to maintain for the music and the parties to continue. Ummmm you were saying? I was wrong? Happy to be so. Stephano prepared well for this tournament. You're able to tell it from the variety of styles he showed. He wasn't a one trick pony this tournament and that moves his play forward. I'm glad for that. You were wrong about just about everything you said. Stephano has always been able to play these styles. Did you base your entire analysis on Dreamhack? No I wasn't. First of all, he hasn't shown he's gotten over his ZvZ, which was my primary criticism of him and is a larger problem by far. Second, no, it wasn't just DH - remember the tournament before that one when he lost to SaSe on his way to the finals? Azarkon's analysis is without foundation. Stephano's only weakness is his partying which affects him the next day. Bar that he appears to be able to play at Super GM level consistently. Azarkon...Who is playing at their ability...no one because everyone can improve and should always strive to do so. Your views are silly.. Results indicate that he is by a country mile he is the most consistent player outside of Korea and on his day can beat anyone on the planet.
Yeah, and that's why he, in the last month -
Lost 0-2 to SaSe, which cost him thousands of $.
Lost 0-2 to MaNa, which cost him tens of thousands of $.
Lost 0-4 to Cytoplasm, which cost him TSL 4 and his team SC2SL.
Lost 1-2 to Ziktomini and 1-2 to Slivko, which didn't cost him $ but does show that his ZvZ needs a lot of work.
His weakness in ZvZ is still able to cost him this tournament, but I find it ridiculous that people have such short memories. This tournament, he's worked out fundamental flaws in his ZvP, which made him easy to meta-game against in the previous two. That's an improvement, and that's why he's there in the finals instead of dropping out in the Ro8-Ro4.
What I learned from my mistake is that it's hard to call Stephano's form because it's very hard to tell when he's practicing and when he's not. What have you learned? Blind faith? That didn't work the last two tournaments he lost, did it?
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I think people don't understand stephano.
Better his the player against him, better he play.
He say he didnt practice more than 10 game.
I really believe it. I sure he THINK a lot about the game and strategy.
Ret is dangerous, Alicia too.
Ret : Zerg. worst matchup, even if he is not so bad.
Alicia : he may underestimate Alicia after winning Hero and MC.
Like i say before the win against MC, I dont care if he loose, watching him play is just amazing.
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Azarkon don't know if you are ridiculous or funny? Probably both of them.
Please continue ;-) I just love reading your well-informed posts !
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On July 15 2012 10:12 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2012 10:07 Ireniicus wrote:On July 15 2012 09:53 Azarkon wrote:On July 15 2012 09:52 The_Darkness wrote:On July 15 2012 09:47 Azarkon wrote:On July 15 2012 09:45 Ireniicus wrote:On July 12 2012 06:59 Azarkon wrote:On July 12 2012 05:00 The_Darkness wrote:On July 12 2012 02:54 Azarkon wrote:On July 12 2012 02:41 a3den wrote:
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I agree, for the first time in a long time, I feel like he's gonna get bodied at NASL & MLG Summer. Too much travel takes its toll, and I know he says he doesn't need much practice to be good, but that's too little right now.
Fortunately, Korea is around the corner so the timing isn't that bad. Yeah, HerO is a huge challenge for him in great form, and he isn't in great form. I said that one day, the music is going to end for Stephano - is this going to be that day? Are you implying that if Stephano loses to Hero his career is over -- or that he's no longer an elite player? It's idiotic to suggest that a loss to Hero would imply some sort of failing on the part of any Zerg. DRG just got spanked by Hero in the IPL imports tournament so perhaps, if you're suggesting that losing to Hero means you're done, you should alert DRG's fans to the fact that "music has ended" for DRG, if you haven't already. Also, since you're not a fan of Stephano, why do you bother posting in this fanclub? By the sycophantic definition of fandom, I am not a fan of any player, because I refuse to be a sychophant who gives players a pass whenever they lose / make mistakes, and who over hypes them at the cost of objectivity. Yet, I do think I am a fan of Stephano, because I have a special attachment to his play and character and will tune in to events that he attends specifically to watch him play and to root for him - which is the better definition of fandom, in my opinion. But whether you think I'm a fan, it has no bearing on posting in the fanclub because the way TL fanclubs operate, they are discussion threads for individual players, and because what I'm saying is specific to Stephano, it belongs nowhere else. With that out of the way, I am not saying that if Stephano loses to HerO his career is over. Rather, I am musing on whether this is going to be the beginning of a slump for Stephano. His refusal to practice ZvZ - and inability to practice hard towards addressing his weaknesses - was bound to bite him, and I have been observing declines in his play from about 2-3 months prior. Presently speaking, I don't think he's ready for HerO, and failing in the first round of NASL is not going to do well for his confidence. Furthermore, with no time in between NASL finals, IEM quals, and MLG Summer Arena, he won't have an opportunity to regain his form after it. It has all the setup of an incoming slump period, and with it the end of his reputation of being the best NA / EU player. That is what I'm talking about when I say that the music is ending - Stephano gets a pass in a lot of areas because he is the best NA / EU player. He is able to, for example, forfeit tournaments repeatedly without losing his sponsorship, and without tournament organizers banning him from their events. When he streams, he is able to get >9000 viewers. All of this is because he is the best, and that is the reputation he has to maintain for the music and the parties to continue. Ummmm you were saying? I was wrong? Happy to be so. Stephano prepared well for this tournament. You're able to tell it from the variety of styles he showed. He wasn't a one trick pony this tournament and that moves his play forward. I'm glad for that. You were wrong about just about everything you said. Stephano has always been able to play these styles. Did you base your entire analysis on Dreamhack? No I wasn't. First of all, he hasn't shown he's gotten over his ZvZ, which was my primary criticism of him and is a larger problem by far. Second, no, it wasn't just DH - remember the tournament before that one when he lost to SaSe on his way to the finals? Azarkon's analysis is without foundation. Stephano's only weakness is his partying which affects him the next day. Bar that he appears to be able to play at Super GM level consistently. Azarkon...Who is playing at their ability...no one because everyone can improve and should always strive to do so. Your views are silly.. Results indicate that he is by a country mile he is the most consistent player outside of Korea and on his day can beat anyone on the planet. Yeah, and that's why he, in the last month - Lost 0-2 to SaSe, which cost him thousands of $. Lost 0-2 to MaNa, which cost him tens of thousands of $. Lost 0-4 to Cytoplasm, which cost him TSL 4 and his team SC2SL. Lost 1-2 to Ziktomini and 1-2 to Slivko, which didn't cost him $ but does show that his ZvZ needs a lot of work. His weakness in ZvZ is still able to cost him this tournament, but I find it ridiculous that people have such short memories. This tournament, he's worked out fundamental flaws in his ZvP, which made him easy to meta-game against in the previous two. That's an improvement, and that's why he's there in the finals instead of dropping out in the Ro8-Ro4. What I learned from my mistake is that it's hard to call Stephano's form because it's very hard to tell when he's practicing and when he's not. What have you learned? Blind faith? That didn't work the last two tournaments he lost, did it?
he made still a top 4 at dreamhack and top 6 at this mlg where he lost, we can't say that he's not in form : he's the most regular player of all foreigner, however i agree with u about his zvz, but when it matter(offline event) , stephano do the job (vs violet, vs nerchio at dreamhack ...)
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Azarkon could you just gtfo?
This is not your personal debating club.
And I think we all should stop feeding him and help him move this thread off topic.
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@MillStephano :
4-2 against MC, I'll do my best to do nothing but sleep tonight, and I should have this tournament in ZE pocket ! haha
Dont get too confident !
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Both his ZvZ and ZvT can look either awesome or bad there are not even close to his stability in ZvP when his starting base is already world class.
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That was top-notch, gratz Ilyes. He's already beaten both Alicia and Ret at Anaheim so I'm confident he can pull it off.
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On July 15 2012 10:27 zedrOne wrote:Show nested quote +@MillStephano :
4-2 against MC, I'll do my best to do nothing but sleep tonight, and I should have this tournament in ZE pocket ! haha Dont get too confident !
Well atleast he isnt drinking thx god
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On July 15 2012 10:25 Redox wrote:
Azarkon could you just gtfo?
This is not your personal debating club.
And I think we all should stop feeding him and help him move this thread off topic.
A fanclub is a place for discussing a player. There's no other place to do it on TL. Sorry, but I'm going to continue posting what I think about Stephano here.
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I didnt catch all the Interview, someone know when are the vods of NASL Final uploaded ?
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Does anyone know if there are any VODs of the games (especially looking for Stephano's games tbh)
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So protoss V Zerg all the way.
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