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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 05 2013 23:57 GMT
#6361
On September 06 2013 08:54 bearhug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 08:44 painkilla wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:25 Dodgin wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:18 sunshinehero wrote:
nail in the coffin?


he's still going to blizzcon with a 99.9915% chance or something along those lines

I hope he trains hard and shows a good result there, shouldn't let those points go to waste on another performance where he loses to EU players.


That's a coin flip simulation though thus Mvp actually has more chance to drop out considering the players below him are strong and still in.


Imagine if Mvp played in WCS KR instead of EU. He would probably get 0 points. lol


Eh, hard to say. His form in season 1 was pretty good so he might have been able to make top 5 in that season and got the same top 4 finish at the season finals. His form for the past two seasons has been pretty bad though.
cookiz
Profile Joined March 2013
Burma181 Posts
September 06 2013 00:34 GMT
#6362
On September 06 2013 08:54 bearhug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 08:44 painkilla wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:25 Dodgin wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:18 sunshinehero wrote:
nail in the coffin?


he's still going to blizzcon with a 99.9915% chance or something along those lines

I hope he trains hard and shows a good result there, shouldn't let those points go to waste on another performance where he loses to EU players.


That's a coin flip simulation though thus Mvp actually has more chance to drop out considering the players below him are strong and still in.


Imagine if Mvp played in WCS KR instead of EU. He would probably get 0 points. lol



KR is strong still?
I don't think so man..look at the S2 finals
and Eu is so lag
.. i think maybe in KR he is better..
and theres another thing i'm wondering..
WHY THE CASTERS looks so happy when he lost..
I mean without those superstars
who give a shit about EU..
well for me, WCS is over now
IM_MVP | DRG (<ゝω·)☆
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 00:40:37
September 06 2013 00:39 GMT
#6363
On September 06 2013 09:34 cookiz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 08:54 bearhug wrote:
On September 06 2013 08:44 painkilla wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:25 Dodgin wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:18 sunshinehero wrote:
nail in the coffin?


he's still going to blizzcon with a 99.9915% chance or something along those lines

I hope he trains hard and shows a good result there, shouldn't let those points go to waste on another performance where he loses to EU players.


That's a coin flip simulation though thus Mvp actually has more chance to drop out considering the players below him are strong and still in.


Imagine if Mvp played in WCS KR instead of EU. He would probably get 0 points. lol



KR is strong still?
I don't think so man..look at the S2 finals
and Eu is so lag
.. i think maybe in KR he is better..
and theres another thing i'm wondering..
WHY THE CASTERS looks so happy when he lost..
I mean without those superstars
who give a shit about EU..
well for me, WCS is over now

Yeah, I hate when casters don't hype up all of the players equally.
You're still going to watch DRG (he's in your sig) right?
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
cookiz
Profile Joined March 2013
Burma181 Posts
September 06 2013 00:45 GMT
#6364
On September 06 2013 09:39 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 09:34 cookiz wrote:
On September 06 2013 08:54 bearhug wrote:
On September 06 2013 08:44 painkilla wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:25 Dodgin wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:18 sunshinehero wrote:
nail in the coffin?


he's still going to blizzcon with a 99.9915% chance or something along those lines

I hope he trains hard and shows a good result there, shouldn't let those points go to waste on another performance where he loses to EU players.


That's a coin flip simulation though thus Mvp actually has more chance to drop out considering the players below him are strong and still in.


Imagine if Mvp played in WCS KR instead of EU. He would probably get 0 points. lol



KR is strong still?
I don't think so man..look at the S2 finals
and Eu is so lag
.. i think maybe in KR he is better..
and theres another thing i'm wondering..
WHY THE CASTERS looks so happy when he lost..
I mean without those superstars
who give a shit about EU..
well for me, WCS is over now

Yeah, I hate when casters don't hype up all of the players equally.
You're still going to watch DRG (he's in your sig) right?


LOL
DRG is out already.
His group is so strong...
I'm just so sad for Mvp..
IM_MVP | DRG (<ゝω·)☆
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17749 Posts
September 06 2013 00:58 GMT
#6365
On September 06 2013 08:44 painkilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 05:25 Dodgin wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:18 sunshinehero wrote:
nail in the coffin?


he's still going to blizzcon with a 99.9915% chance or something along those lines

I hope he trains hard and shows a good result there, shouldn't let those points go to waste on another performance where he loses to EU players.


That's a coin flip simulation though thus Mvp actually has more chance to drop out considering the players below him are strong and still in.

Yea I still need to get it to pull from aligulac, won't be hard I just haven't gotten around to it. Although it is worth noting that the players in premier league are pretty close to each other.
"Expert" mods4ever.com
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
September 06 2013 01:09 GMT
#6366
On September 06 2013 08:54 bearhug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 08:44 painkilla wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:25 Dodgin wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:18 sunshinehero wrote:
nail in the coffin?


he's still going to blizzcon with a 99.9915% chance or something along those lines

I hope he trains hard and shows a good result there, shouldn't let those points go to waste on another performance where he loses to EU players.


That's a coin flip simulation though thus Mvp actually has more chance to drop out considering the players below him are strong and still in.


Imagine if Mvp played in WCS KR instead of EU. He would probably get 0 points. lol


What are you doing in this fan club?
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
September 06 2013 01:11 GMT
#6367
On September 06 2013 09:58 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 08:44 painkilla wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:25 Dodgin wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:18 sunshinehero wrote:
nail in the coffin?


he's still going to blizzcon with a 99.9915% chance or something along those lines

I hope he trains hard and shows a good result there, shouldn't let those points go to waste on another performance where he loses to EU players.


That's a coin flip simulation though thus Mvp actually has more chance to drop out considering the players below him are strong and still in.

Yea I still need to get it to pull from aligulac, won't be hard I just haven't gotten around to it. Although it is worth noting that the players in premier league are pretty close to each other.


Yes. Personally I think he will be 13-16th by the end of the season.
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17749 Posts
September 06 2013 01:15 GMT
#6368
On September 06 2013 10:11 painkilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 09:58 Die4Ever wrote:
On September 06 2013 08:44 painkilla wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:25 Dodgin wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:18 sunshinehero wrote:
nail in the coffin?


he's still going to blizzcon with a 99.9915% chance or something along those lines

I hope he trains hard and shows a good result there, shouldn't let those points go to waste on another performance where he loses to EU players.


That's a coin flip simulation though thus Mvp actually has more chance to drop out considering the players below him are strong and still in.

Yea I still need to get it to pull from aligulac, won't be hard I just haven't gotten around to it. Although it is worth noting that the players in premier league are pretty close to each other.


Yes. Personally I think he will be 13-16th by the end of the season.

Either way he's got an incredibly good chance to make it, I'd say at least 99% even after factoring in aligulac ratings.
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 02:41:27
September 06 2013 01:38 GMT
#6369
Just got home, finished watching all of the games. I did my duty and faithfully added all the VODs to the fan club, so you can check them out...

God damn it!!! I am so sad right now... So this is what I come home to find? One of the most depressing events I have witnessed this year...

I don't recommend watching the games. Seriously, the VODs suck (I assume the stream was dying or something) and the games themselves were largely terrible.

Mvp vs. ShoWTimE was just depressing... clearly Mvp hasn't figured out TvP, he couldn't punish the greedy Protoss. Mvp tried different approaches such as Widow Mines and Hellions and drops and SCV pulls, but in the end, the Protoss just teched up, hit 3-3, and rolled over Mvp. Watching those games was incredibly frustrating... the Protoss seemed so safe with just a Mothership Core and lategame PvT is as difficult as ever...

Mvp vs Noname was okay... at least Mvp handily crushed Noname, but that isn't indicative of Mvp's skill at all. Noname played pretty badly, walking into Mvp's siege line and handing him the victory.

Overall, it was a terrible day for Mvp. He really needs to focus on his health and prepare for BlizzCon, because we all know he's going to qualify. Right now, his chances look dismal but remember that Mvp plays better when he faces stronger opponents... a fact which makes it all the more depressing when he loses to people worse than himself!

I am looking forward to the Sydney event, it will be so cool to see Mvp chilling out with his fans and relaxing. Other than that, I guess we'll see Mvp in Challenger League Round of 40.


Update 10
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I have added the following three videos to the fan club:

Mvp Admits That MMA Is Better


WCS EU Season 2 - Are You Ready?


Arts n' StarCraft Episode 3 - Battlecruiser Archon Toilet


In addition, I have added these two images to the fan club:

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IMMvp (정종현) | Fan Club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=211431
cookiz
Profile Joined March 2013
Burma181 Posts
September 06 2013 03:59 GMT
#6370
Sad to see a hero past his prime
IM_MVP | DRG (<ゝω·)☆
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
September 06 2013 08:00 GMT
#6371
On September 06 2013 09:34 cookiz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 08:54 bearhug wrote:
On September 06 2013 08:44 painkilla wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:25 Dodgin wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:18 sunshinehero wrote:
nail in the coffin?


he's still going to blizzcon with a 99.9915% chance or something along those lines

I hope he trains hard and shows a good result there, shouldn't let those points go to waste on another performance where he loses to EU players.


That's a coin flip simulation though thus Mvp actually has more chance to drop out considering the players below him are strong and still in.


Imagine if Mvp played in WCS KR instead of EU. He would probably get 0 points. lol



KR is strong still?
I don't think so man..look at the S2 finals
and Eu is so lag
.. i think maybe in KR he is better..
and theres another thing i'm wondering..
WHY THE CASTERS looks so happy when he lost..
I mean without those superstars
who give a shit about EU..
well for me, WCS is over now


What is a superstar? A superstar should perform like a SUPERSTAR. Otherwise, he is just a normal player.
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
September 06 2013 08:16 GMT
#6372
On September 06 2013 12:59 cookiz wrote:
Sad to see a hero past his prime



oh come on haven't you learn't anything about mvp the past couple years? people will keep saying things like that then bam! he will show up and add another championship to his collection.
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 08:35:15
September 06 2013 08:29 GMT
#6373
On September 06 2013 17:00 bearhug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 09:34 cookiz wrote:
On September 06 2013 08:54 bearhug wrote:
On September 06 2013 08:44 painkilla wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:25 Dodgin wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:18 sunshinehero wrote:
nail in the coffin?


he's still going to blizzcon with a 99.9915% chance or something along those lines

I hope he trains hard and shows a good result there, shouldn't let those points go to waste on another performance where he loses to EU players.


That's a coin flip simulation though thus Mvp actually has more chance to drop out considering the players below him are strong and still in.


Imagine if Mvp played in WCS KR instead of EU. He would probably get 0 points. lol



KR is strong still?
I don't think so man..look at the S2 finals
and Eu is so lag
.. i think maybe in KR he is better..
and theres another thing i'm wondering..
WHY THE CASTERS looks so happy when he lost..
I mean without those superstars
who give a shit about EU..
well for me, WCS is over now


What is a superstar? A superstar should perform like a SUPERSTAR. Otherwise, he is just a normal player.

If the best SC2 player of all time is not a superstar then who the fuck is?
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
September 06 2013 08:31 GMT
#6374
On September 06 2013 17:16 igay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 12:59 cookiz wrote:
Sad to see a hero past his prime



oh come on haven't you learn't anything about mvp the past couple years? people will keep saying things like that then bam! he will show up and add another championship to his collection.


That's so true. Infact that is why he started to be really popular. At some point, when people like Nestea, MKP DRG, MMA, MC etc got a huuuuuuge fan support from the get go when they started to win major tournament, MVP didn't had that much support again, yet he was the most consistent of them all and ended up being the most dominating player of WoL. Luckily around that time the majority of people started to realize how awesome he really was.

In short: MVP will rise from the ashes as he always have, because unlike most players: MVP doesn't slump, he rests... to bring the thunder another day

And guys pleeeeeeeeeease don't hate on (P)ShowTime, what he did is so huge for him, we should be proud of a newcomer beating the best WoL player twice in a row, something the majority of the best foreigners STILL can't do
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
September 06 2013 08:45 GMT
#6375
On September 06 2013 17:31 SmoKim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 17:16 igay wrote:
On September 06 2013 12:59 cookiz wrote:
Sad to see a hero past his prime



oh come on haven't you learn't anything about mvp the past couple years? people will keep saying things like that then bam! he will show up and add another championship to his collection.


That's so true. Infact that is why he started to be really popular. At some point, when people like Nestea, MKP DRG, MMA, MC etc got a huuuuuuge fan support from the get go when they started to win major tournament, MVP didn't had that much support again, yet he was the most consistent of them all and ended up being the most dominating player of WoL. Luckily around that time the majority of people started to realize how awesome he really was.

In short: MVP will rise from the ashes as he always have, because unlike most players: MVP doesn't slump, he rests... to bring the thunder another day

And guys pleeeeeeeeeease don't hate on (P)ShowTime, what he did is so huge for him, we should be proud of a newcomer beating the best WoL player twice in a row, something the majority of the best foreigners STILL can't do

I remember that Mvp wasnt that popular back in 2011 when he dominated everyone especially not with the Korean fans. I think his injury made him a fan favorite because we have seen what happens with injured players. They start slumping or take really long breaks off from SC2 but Mvp kept playing and went deep in tournaments and kept winning with most likely heavily reduced practice time which is just amazing.
cookiz
Profile Joined March 2013
Burma181 Posts
September 06 2013 15:05 GMT
#6376
On September 06 2013 17:45 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 17:31 SmoKim wrote:
On September 06 2013 17:16 igay wrote:
On September 06 2013 12:59 cookiz wrote:
Sad to see a hero past his prime



oh come on haven't you learn't anything about mvp the past couple years? people will keep saying things like that then bam! he will show up and add another championship to his collection.


That's so true. Infact that is why he started to be really popular. At some point, when people like Nestea, MKP DRG, MMA, MC etc got a huuuuuuge fan support from the get go when they started to win major tournament, MVP didn't had that much support again, yet he was the most consistent of them all and ended up being the most dominating player of WoL. Luckily around that time the majority of people started to realize how awesome he really was.

In short: MVP will rise from the ashes as he always have, because unlike most players: MVP doesn't slump, he rests... to bring the thunder another day

And guys pleeeeeeeeeease don't hate on (P)ShowTime, what he did is so huge for him, we should be proud of a newcomer beating the best WoL player twice in a row, something the majority of the best foreigners STILL can't do

I think his injury made him a fan favorite because we have seen what happens with injured players. They start slumping or take really long breaks off from SC2 but Mvp kept playing and went deep in tournaments and kept winning with most likely heavily reduced practice time which is just amazing.


Agree....
IM_MVP | DRG (<ゝω·)☆
Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 15:12:13
September 06 2013 15:11 GMT
#6377
Watching one of the best SC2 players of all time get 4-2d by a european random protoss is pretty sad i hope Mvp will come back again.
Lhynz
Profile Joined January 2013
Spain7 Posts
September 07 2013 23:18 GMT
#6378
Sign me into the club :D. Love MVP !
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
September 08 2013 02:44 GMT
#6379
I have added Lhynz to the fan club, making our numbers 409 strong! Welcome to the fan club and please continue to support Mvp!

I have added one more article too: WCS EU Ro32 - Group C Recap + Interviews.
IMMvp (정종현) | Fan Club: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=211431
rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
September 08 2013 14:28 GMT
#6380
possible innovation vs Mvp rematch on iem kr/tw qualifier. mvp will have to go through pigbaby and alive/curious tho >.<
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