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BoFFi
Sweden6 Posts
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ZeroCartin
Costa Rica2390 Posts
I feel you did his on purpose to grt kicked off and cancel the contract, which to me seems like the most disrespectful attitude towards the community as a whole. For fucks sake, this commhnity has given you a job in the esport career for more than 2years. Pay some respect to your employers and fans. Jesus christ | ||
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goxtisc
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The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
On March 22 2014 00:39 ZeroCartin wrote: This is an extremely unprofessional attitude. If I have a contract to whatever company and i have to work every day from 8am to 5pm, i must go even if I dont feel like it. Having a shitty rocksatr-ish attitude not respecting your employers and even using a card like "they forced me to play" is a bullshit move. To top that, you have fans that follow your work evry tournament and see you with respect, and this was a total disrespect to them as well. I feel you did his on purpose to grt kicked off and cancel the contract, which to me seems like the most disrespectful attitude towards the community as a whole. For fucks sake, this commhnity has given you a job in the esport career for more than 2years. Pay some respect to your employers and fans. Jesus christ If you don't have something supportive or nice to say in this fan club you should post it here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/446736-naniwa-released-from-alliance | ||
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ThePlagueJG
Sweden1010 Posts
I hope it clear up a little. He also mentioned its post-elim and not before IEM. | ||
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YuiHirasawa
Japan220 Posts
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Enel
Sudan430 Posts
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
However, this doesn't mean that I agree with how you handled the past while (since WCS EU RO32 till now). I hope being your fan means I'm still allowed to disagree with you at times, and I felt I needed to say that because right now the only responses I've read are either 100% against you or 100% affirming you. I guess I would consider myself still a Naniwa fan who wishes the best for you, but isn't afraid to give feedback and tell you his opinion that this isn't the right attitude for you. TL;DR I still support you Naniwa, and I'm a fan! But I don't think your actions in the past month or so were good or right. I hope the next steps you take turn out well, though. And if those steps lead to you being back in competitive SC2 matches soon, well, I'm sure a lot of us won't complain  NaNi #fighting | ||
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RaZorwire
Sweden718 Posts
On March 21 2014 16:34 Rainman5419 wrote: I totally agree with you on this part, you played, you earned it and if other played would have been better they would have earned it. That said I feel like you really shat on everyone who supports you when you said that you didn't owe anyone anything. You owed the team whatever the contract you signed. You also owed the sponsors some effort for the money they spent allowing you to do what some of us would dream about. Most of all you owe the fans who cheer you on a real effort to win the games they watch hoping you're the victor. This doesn't diminish what you put into Starcraft the hours work, time and thought that made you the Protoss foreign hope. Just something to think about if you do plan on playing seriously again. I agree about sponsors and team, but he's right about the fans: he really doesn't owe us anything. I was sad and disappointed as hell when he forfeited vs Polt, but he didn't owe it to me or any other fan to play that series if he doesn't want to. You should be a fan of players because you enjoy cheering for them, not because you expect something in return. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17971 Posts
On March 22 2014 00:39 ZeroCartin wrote: This is an extremely unprofessional attitude. If I have a contract to whatever company and i have to work every day from 8am to 5pm, i must go even if I dont feel like it. Having a shitty rocksatr-ish attitude not respecting your employers and even using a card like "they forced me to play" is a bullshit move. To top that, you have fans that follow your work evry tournament and see you with respect, and this was a total disrespect to them as well. I feel you did his on purpose to grt kicked off and cancel the contract, which to me seems like the most disrespectful attitude towards the community as a whole. For fucks sake, this commhnity has given you a job in the esport career for more than 2years. Pay some respect to your employers and fans. Jesus christ what if part of generating interest includes intentionally pissing people off to draw more attention to your brand? the WWE/WWF and Vince Mcmahon has done this very effectively over the past 30 years. if this is the case then Naniwa has done a great job. its a common ploy. Alliance looks like the "white knight saviour" and Naniwa leaves "the disgraced bad guy". THis makes Alliance look really good...its called "putting your opponent over". Naniwa laid down in the middle of the ring for the 3-count. Naniwa jobbed out to the Alliance in his final match. for all we know this whole thing is a work. if you think anything Naniwa says in this TL.Net forum is breaking kayfabe then you're his biggest mark. if Starcraft can have match-fixing scandals.. then some simple trickery as Naniwa retires is a walk in the park. | ||
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victarrr
United States21 Posts
Yeah, it would've been cool if Naniwa had played the series against Polt but judging by his WCS games and the fact that he claims he hasn't played in a month he would've just gotten wrecked. Might as well save himself and everyone else the time, plus got some good controversy for publicity. Maybe someone can explain the other side's view of this to me. | ||
BluemoonSC
SoCal8933 Posts
On March 21 2014 09:54 Naniwa wrote: everything that happened was extremly silly, to be honest i told my team atleast 5 times that i didnt want to go and that they should make iem get a replacement for me. but my team didnt agree with this and also IEM said that they would highly recommend me to go or there would be consequenses ( this is what my team told me ) i would ofcourse not want to go to waste my time playing a tournament in a game i dont even practice anymore as it was a huge waste of time but as i said i was forced to because of SPONSOR Things, and ironically enough i got kicked out of the team for going there and doing what i did when i didnt even wanna go or play sc2 in the first place funnily enough.  but whatever im not sad and i dont really care anymore about that, im sure that if i practice 2 weeks in the future i can make the comeback as the best foreign player at any time if i feel like it. its a bit funny tho that ppl think other people deserve the spot ( Yes i wanted to give it away cuz i didnt wanna play the tour ) but i won it fair and square by going top2 at newyork, if other people wouldve "deserved it" then they could learn to qualify to tournaments by their own skill let me preface this by saying that i may be biased because i am not particularly a fan of naniwa but i do wanna say that if you are contracted for whatever reason and you want to violate your contract, you shouldn't be surprised when there are consequences. if you wanted to opt out of your contract, you should have done it instead of making an organization look bad and potentially have sponsors question their sponsorship. this is the same organization that took him in when no one else would because of his temper and disregard for professionalism. nani was a great player, no doubt. but his lack professionalism was always a huge turn off for me when it came to respecting him as a player. this is just the icing on the cake that is his starcraft 2 career. what a shame. | ||
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scoobex
United Kingdom154 Posts
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showBanquo
Sweden182 Posts
On March 22 2014 03:54 BluemoonSC wrote: let me preface this by saying that i may be biased because i am not particularly a fan of naniwa You, and all others, post in the thread about him being released from [A]. Just, please, gtfo his fanclub. Idk but I think that should include fans who wants to lecture him. I doubt Naniwa will spend time reading his fanclub, but if he does (and it shouldn't really matter) this is a place supposed to support him. Idk I've had Naniwa as my favorite player for years (Dignitas days) and I've always supported him. Part of why I really like Nani is because of his mindset - he just cares about the game and winning. I guess to be professional one has to deal with all that other stuff, teams etc, but I've always liked that Nani has just been focused on winning - and not been a hypocrite about it. Sure you guys can call him all sorts of things (elsewhere!) but he has always been honest and straight forward. Also he has been the best foreigner pretty much most of the time. I mean last year without shadow of a doubt, but before that to I'd say that two Ro8 GSL placements is better than stomping Europeans (Stephano). I'll miss Naniwa, and of course hope he'll be back, but I fully support his decision. GL HF with everything Nani, and thanks for all good games. | ||
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xtorn
4067 Posts
"20 probes? but why? " LMAO I dont give a sh!t about all the drama that's put out there about him, he's a nice guy and deserves respect for what he's done, and understanding for what he's going through. | ||
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Estonia21 Posts
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Sweden1010 Posts
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