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Maybe it's the only GSL focus that hurt him.
but rakaka is not always the most reliable source. w&s.
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On July 31 2012 02:02 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 01:49 DrPandaPhD wrote:"Rumor : Naniwa leaves Quantic According to reliable sources Naniwa will be leaving Quantic Gaming. Today Rakaka got information about the swedish Code S player Johan "Naniwa" Lucceshi that he will leave Quantic. The definite reason to why he's leaving is unclear but according to Rakaka's sources, the team has had trouble sending them abroad. As an example, ASUS helped them to get to Dreamhack Open in Stockholm earlier this year. During WCS Nordic Rakaka noticed that Naniwa and Sase didn't hang out together as much as they did at the previous Dreamhack, and according to Rakaka's sources, the players had a quarrel. The reason for the quarrel is unclear, and it's also unclear if it was a contributing factor to Naniwa leaving the team. Any way, Naniwa has already gotten several offers from big teams, but we don't know which the teams are at the moment." Did a translaton of Naniwa leaving Quantic since the article had been posted but not translated. (Not a native speaker so don't be too harsh on my grammar etc) Wonder what team he will go to :o Source: Rakaka Rumor. I'll believe it when Nani or Quantic confirms it.
Ye, I just translated the article :/
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On July 31 2012 02:06 DrPandaPhD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 02:02 Zealously wrote:On July 31 2012 01:49 DrPandaPhD wrote:"Rumor : Naniwa leaves Quantic According to reliable sources Naniwa will be leaving Quantic Gaming. Today Rakaka got information about the swedish Code S player Johan "Naniwa" Lucceshi that he will leave Quantic. The definite reason to why he's leaving is unclear but according to Rakaka's sources, the team has had trouble sending them abroad. As an example, ASUS helped them to get to Dreamhack Open in Stockholm earlier this year. During WCS Nordic Rakaka noticed that Naniwa and Sase didn't hang out together as much as they did at the previous Dreamhack, and according to Rakaka's sources, the players had a quarrel. The reason for the quarrel is unclear, and it's also unclear if it was a contributing factor to Naniwa leaving the team. Any way, Naniwa has already gotten several offers from big teams, but we don't know which the teams are at the moment." Did a translaton of Naniwa leaving Quantic since the article had been posted but not translated. (Not a native speaker so don't be too harsh on my grammar etc) Wonder what team he will go to :o Source: Rakaka Rumor. I'll believe it when Nani or Quantic confirms it. Ye, I just translated the article :/
Of course  Rakaka has been known to not be a hundred percent trustworthy before, though.
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On July 31 2012 02:16 GeorgeH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 01:40 Waterflow wrote:On July 31 2012 01:24 GeorgeH wrote:On July 31 2012 00:20 Waterflow wrote:On July 30 2012 22:56 GeorgeH wrote:On July 30 2012 22:29 Waterflow wrote:On July 30 2012 16:15 Atropin wrote:
I dont know why everybody is making such a fuss about Nani being BM. Imagine his situation: He was the favorite player going into this match, has a hard time beating zerg at the moment and plays in the GSL. He lost versus a player who just turned up on the radar very recently.
Of course he is frustrated. Every one us would be in his situation. And given the amount of frustration he didnt even BM particularly much. He did not offend DJR directly, just expressed his frustration over the matchup. Exactly. Sometimes you just need to get your frustration out. And tbh JonnyREcco is good enough to know that he's good because of his skill and not because of the race he plays. So why should he get offended or anyone else. Anyone who is sane enough and knows what feelings are knows that it was just typical frustration wich happens to anybody and that it is good to ventilate those sometimes. There are no perfect humans and one can't expect everyone to be a happy camper with perfect control of their emotions 24/7. We are humans afterall. Not robots. You are trying to make it sound like typing out stuff like "congratz u play zerg" is acceptable. It isn't. There are better ways of venting your frustration. Telling the other guy he is only good because he plays a particular race isn't one of them. I was actually starting to be OK with Naniwa... then he does that. So YOU decide that it's not acceptable? I don't believe there is any global agreement that saying stuff like that isn't acceptable. You need a chillpill. Alot of other players complain about races they have problems playing against. NaNiwa just said it. It's the kind of guy he is. Brutally honest! And it wasn't like he said: "F#ck you son of a b#tch you play zerg". Just: "congratz you play zerg". Big deal? I seem to recall you posting a certain something... On July 02 2012 23:20 Waterflow wrote:On July 02 2012 10:45 Vodh wrote:
It's actually pretty sad to see how awful some people are with getting good and valid points across.
The one pretty important point in the Avilo and Idra discussion was that sure, if zerg decides to be greedy Terran can also be greedy, but it just works one way. Zerg can do whatever he wants, and if he decides to be greedy then except for some really extreme all-ins the worst that could happen to him is 'being forced' into a lategame, which is not bad at all. If Terran decides to be greedy, he's much more vulnerable. And with the way the Zerg economy develops it's easier for Zerg to reach the point where he can tech switch freely than for Terran to be able to do the same, which is also a relatively good point.
Avilo had a good shot at getting both of those across, but instead decided to focus on imputing a biased bs to Idra. There's a big difference between pointing out where TvZ is imbalanced, and calling the entire matchup an unwinable bs. It wasn't even a hard discussion to win, at the very least reach a draw. Sure, Idra was kinda bad mannered there, but how exactly is that news? JP and Idra were admittedly kind of biased towards Avilo, but he also got lost in his own argument towards the end, didn't really need much help to make himself sound stupid. "Sure, Idra was kinda bad mannered there, but how exactly is that news?" Just because he's known for being bad mannered and disrespectful doesn't make it more acceptable in any way. Stupid way of trying to sweep it under the rug. Ah, the wonders of double-standards. On July 31 2012 00:27 inanotherlifetime wrote:On July 30 2012 22:56 GeorgeH wrote:On July 30 2012 22:29 Waterflow wrote:On July 30 2012 16:15 Atropin wrote:
I dont know why everybody is making such a fuss about Nani being BM. Imagine his situation: He was the favorite player going into this match, has a hard time beating zerg at the moment and plays in the GSL. He lost versus a player who just turned up on the radar very recently.
Of course he is frustrated. Every one us would be in his situation. And given the amount of frustration he didnt even BM particularly much. He did not offend DJR directly, just expressed his frustration over the matchup. Exactly. Sometimes you just need to get your frustration out. And tbh JonnyREcco is good enough to know that he's good because of his skill and not because of the race he plays. So why should he get offended or anyone else. Anyone who is sane enough and knows what feelings are knows that it was just typical frustration wich happens to anybody and that it is good to ventilate those sometimes. There are no perfect humans and one can't expect everyone to be a happy camper with perfect control of their emotions 24/7. We are humans afterall. Not robots. You are trying to make it sound like typing out stuff like "congratz u play zerg" is acceptable. It isn't. There are better ways of venting your frustration. Telling the other guy he is only good because he plays a particular race isn't one of them. I was actually starting to be OK with Naniwa... then he does that. Oh, noes, how will he ever be able to sleep at night when he realize he did that to you who had started to be OK with him... Seriously, I will never understand why some people come to fanclubs just to state they don't support the players, we got enough of that everywhere else. Also who are you to say it's not acceptable to say this or that. Like Waterflow wrote, we are all humans. We do what we do best, we feel. If you don't accept a certain behavior that's totally up to you, but please don't come to his fanclub and tell us real fans what's acceptable and not. Oh, noes, how would I ever be able to sleep at night knowing that other people don't share my view on the subject... I don't have an issue with people supporting him nor was I going to comment on what he said in his fanclub, but once again, we have people that just try and make up excuses to turn something that was unnecessary into something that's "ok". That's what I have an issue with. Why do you bring that up? You go through all of my posts just so you can find something that will make your e-peen seem longer. It's a pretty big difference between calling someone a sociopath and shitting all over his personality (wich IdrA did to NaNiwa) VS saying "congratz u play zerg" after having lost a match. I'd say calling someone a sociopath without having actual medical proof of it is extremely unacceptable. Saying "congratz u play zerg" is not even near comparable. See what im saying? Pretty dumb comparison dude. Resorting to insults is not the best way to validate your point. You just come across as someone who wants to insult someone for the sake of it because you're angry or whatever. If I didn't know better, I wouldn't brand this as a typical response from a "naniwa fan". You are also comparing two things which are unnecessary/unacceptable (in my opinion, and to some degree, yours). Yes, they are both unnecessary/unacceptable. I never at any point said it was overwhelmingly, grossly, absolutely unacceptable and unnecessary, I just said it was "unnecessary" or "not acceptable". Then all of a sudden you jump on me as if I am the advocate to Naniwa's hate club or something and then proceed to agree with everyone who agrees with you to seem like I am in the minority. The double-standards point that I brought up demonstrates what is going on here: someone thought IdrA's behaviour was acceptable, you argued that it wasn't. I argued that what Naniwa said was unnecessary, you disagreed in a somewhat over-the-top manner, even going so far as to finding other posters that agreed with you for the sake of agreeing. What is also the case is that you never even took my point into consideration. You just dismissed it completely and never even tried to illustrate where I was at fault. You just came back with "you're dumb" and "you are only trying to make your e-peen longer".
Did i insult you? How?
Holy cow dude. I never said "you're dumb". I said it was a pretty dumb comparison. Now you are just trying to make yourself look like the victim.
And about the e-peen comment....... seriously? Are you that sensitive?
Not gonna discuss with you any longer because i can just see where this will be going.
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On July 31 2012 02:16 GeorgeH wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 01:40 Waterflow wrote:On July 31 2012 01:24 GeorgeH wrote:On July 31 2012 00:20 Waterflow wrote:On July 30 2012 22:56 GeorgeH wrote:On July 30 2012 22:29 Waterflow wrote:On July 30 2012 16:15 Atropin wrote:
I dont know why everybody is making such a fuss about Nani being BM. Imagine his situation: He was the favorite player going into this match, has a hard time beating zerg at the moment and plays in the GSL. He lost versus a player who just turned up on the radar very recently.
Of course he is frustrated. Every one us would be in his situation. And given the amount of frustration he didnt even BM particularly much. He did not offend DJR directly, just expressed his frustration over the matchup. Exactly. Sometimes you just need to get your frustration out. And tbh JonnyREcco is good enough to know that he's good because of his skill and not because of the race he plays. So why should he get offended or anyone else. Anyone who is sane enough and knows what feelings are knows that it was just typical frustration wich happens to anybody and that it is good to ventilate those sometimes. There are no perfect humans and one can't expect everyone to be a happy camper with perfect control of their emotions 24/7. We are humans afterall. Not robots. You are trying to make it sound like typing out stuff like "congratz u play zerg" is acceptable. It isn't. There are better ways of venting your frustration. Telling the other guy he is only good because he plays a particular race isn't one of them. I was actually starting to be OK with Naniwa... then he does that. So YOU decide that it's not acceptable? I don't believe there is any global agreement that saying stuff like that isn't acceptable. You need a chillpill. Alot of other players complain about races they have problems playing against. NaNiwa just said it. It's the kind of guy he is. Brutally honest! And it wasn't like he said: "F#ck you son of a b#tch you play zerg". Just: "congratz you play zerg". Big deal? I seem to recall you posting a certain something... On July 02 2012 23:20 Waterflow wrote:On July 02 2012 10:45 Vodh wrote:
It's actually pretty sad to see how awful some people are with getting good and valid points across.
The one pretty important point in the Avilo and Idra discussion was that sure, if zerg decides to be greedy Terran can also be greedy, but it just works one way. Zerg can do whatever he wants, and if he decides to be greedy then except for some really extreme all-ins the worst that could happen to him is 'being forced' into a lategame, which is not bad at all. If Terran decides to be greedy, he's much more vulnerable. And with the way the Zerg economy develops it's easier for Zerg to reach the point where he can tech switch freely than for Terran to be able to do the same, which is also a relatively good point.
Avilo had a good shot at getting both of those across, but instead decided to focus on imputing a biased bs to Idra. There's a big difference between pointing out where TvZ is imbalanced, and calling the entire matchup an unwinable bs. It wasn't even a hard discussion to win, at the very least reach a draw. Sure, Idra was kinda bad mannered there, but how exactly is that news? JP and Idra were admittedly kind of biased towards Avilo, but he also got lost in his own argument towards the end, didn't really need much help to make himself sound stupid. "Sure, Idra was kinda bad mannered there, but how exactly is that news?" Just because he's known for being bad mannered and disrespectful doesn't make it more acceptable in any way. Stupid way of trying to sweep it under the rug. Ah, the wonders of double-standards. On July 31 2012 00:27 inanotherlifetime wrote:On July 30 2012 22:56 GeorgeH wrote:On July 30 2012 22:29 Waterflow wrote:On July 30 2012 16:15 Atropin wrote:
I dont know why everybody is making such a fuss about Nani being BM. Imagine his situation: He was the favorite player going into this match, has a hard time beating zerg at the moment and plays in the GSL. He lost versus a player who just turned up on the radar very recently.
Of course he is frustrated. Every one us would be in his situation. And given the amount of frustration he didnt even BM particularly much. He did not offend DJR directly, just expressed his frustration over the matchup. Exactly. Sometimes you just need to get your frustration out. And tbh JonnyREcco is good enough to know that he's good because of his skill and not because of the race he plays. So why should he get offended or anyone else. Anyone who is sane enough and knows what feelings are knows that it was just typical frustration wich happens to anybody and that it is good to ventilate those sometimes. There are no perfect humans and one can't expect everyone to be a happy camper with perfect control of their emotions 24/7. We are humans afterall. Not robots. You are trying to make it sound like typing out stuff like "congratz u play zerg" is acceptable. It isn't. There are better ways of venting your frustration. Telling the other guy he is only good because he plays a particular race isn't one of them. I was actually starting to be OK with Naniwa... then he does that. Oh, noes, how will he ever be able to sleep at night when he realize he did that to you who had started to be OK with him... Seriously, I will never understand why some people come to fanclubs just to state they don't support the players, we got enough of that everywhere else. Also who are you to say it's not acceptable to say this or that. Like Waterflow wrote, we are all humans. We do what we do best, we feel. If you don't accept a certain behavior that's totally up to you, but please don't come to his fanclub and tell us real fans what's acceptable and not. Oh, noes, how would I ever be able to sleep at night knowing that other people don't share my view on the subject... I don't have an issue with people supporting him nor was I going to comment on what he said in his fanclub, but once again, we have people that just try and make up excuses to turn something that was unnecessary into something that's "ok". That's what I have an issue with. Why do you bring that up? You go through all of my posts just so you can find something that will make your e-peen seem longer. It's a pretty big difference between calling someone a sociopath and shitting all over his personality (wich IdrA did to NaNiwa) VS saying "congratz u play zerg" after having lost a match. I'd say calling someone a sociopath without having actual medical proof of it is extremely unacceptable. Saying "congratz u play zerg" is not even near comparable. See what im saying? Pretty dumb comparison dude. Resorting to insults is not the best way to validate your point. You just come across as someone who wants to insult someone for the sake of it because you're angry or whatever. If I didn't know better, I wouldn't brand this as a typical response from a "naniwa fan". You are also comparing two things which are unnecessary/unacceptable (in my opinion, and to some degree, yours). Yes, they are both unnecessary/unacceptable. I never at any point said it was overwhelmingly, grossly, absolutely unacceptable and unnecessary, I just said it was "unnecessary" or "not acceptable". Then all of a sudden you jump on me as if I am the advocate to Naniwa's hate club or something and then proceed to agree with everyone who agrees with you to seem like I am in the minority. The double-standards point that I brought up demonstrates what is going on here: someone thought IdrA's behaviour was acceptable, you argued that it wasn't. I argued that what Naniwa said was unnecessary, you disagreed in a somewhat over-the-top manner, even going so far as to finding other posters that agreed with you for the sake of agreeing. What is also the case is that you never even took my point into consideration. You just dismissed it completely and never even tried to illustrate where I was at fault. You just came back with "you're dumb" and "you are only trying to make your e-peen longer".
Troll please leave
And yes you are a troll... You come into a fan club purely with the intention of frustrating and arguing with the fans in it. Even if you are right, you are still a troll
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On July 31 2012 03:24 GeorgeH wrote:
I was attempting a reasonable discussion, then Waterflow came along and still continues to dodge the point entirely. So to prove I am not a troll, I will be discontinuing.
Is this george hagen? I love you if you are
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On July 31 2012 03:24 GeorgeH wrote:
I was attempting a reasonable discussion, then Waterflow came along and still continues to dodge the point entirely. So to prove I am not a troll, I will be discontinuing.
"even going so far as to finding other posters that agreed with you for the sake of agreeing."
Funny. I praise ONE guy for what he said because i agree with him and you make it out like i searched desperately for several posters to agree with me.
I simply agreed because he put the hammer down on you because we don't need you here. You're in a fanclub trying to be a smartass. You can type all the fancy words in the world you want but you are still in a fanclub trolling around like a homeless clown.
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No matter whos the victim or not, this isnt the place. My goal for this fanclub was that when naniwa was either feeling down or looking for some support he'd come here and talk to the fans who support him. Not. aying anyone isnt, just saying that when you want to check up on your fanclub one day. Would you like to meet this kind of pointless discussion?
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On July 31 2012 04:00 Waterflow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 03:24 GeorgeH wrote:
I was attempting a reasonable discussion, then Waterflow came along and still continues to dodge the point entirely. So to prove I am not a troll, I will be discontinuing. "even going so far as to finding other posters that agreed with you for the sake of agreeing." Funny. I praise ONE guy for what he said because i agree with him and you make it out like i searched desperately for several posters to agree with me. I simply agreed because he put the hammer down on you because we don't need you here. You're in a fanclub trying to be a smartass. You can type all the fancy words in the world you want but you are still in a fanclub trolling around like a homeless clown.
So, you couldn't help yourself and had to get the last word in after he said he wasn't going to continue the discussion. Good for you! Let me know when your nappies need a change
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On July 31 2012 05:28 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
No matter whos the victim or not, this isnt the place. My goal for this fanclub was that when naniwa was either feeling down or looking for some support he'd come here and talk to the fans who support him. Not. aying anyone isnt, just saying that when you want to check up on your fanclub one day. Would you like to meet this kind of pointless discussion?
Then I apologise. I've edited my posts out.
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Rod Breslau @Slasher
Effective immediately, Naniwa has been granted release from his Quantic Gaming contract, according to an official statement.
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upcoming announcement, ThorZaIN leaves EG to join team Ikea alongside MorroW and NaNiwa
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now go join EG!!
well.. join team grubby!
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On July 31 2012 05:35 Dr_Jones wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 04:00 Waterflow wrote:On July 31 2012 03:24 GeorgeH wrote:
I was attempting a reasonable discussion, then Waterflow came along and still continues to dodge the point entirely. So to prove I am not a troll, I will be discontinuing. "even going so far as to finding other posters that agreed with you for the sake of agreeing." Funny. I praise ONE guy for what he said because i agree with him and you make it out like i searched desperately for several posters to agree with me. I simply agreed because he put the hammer down on you because we don't need you here. You're in a fanclub trying to be a smartass. You can type all the fancy words in the world you want but you are still in a fanclub trolling around like a homeless clown. So, you couldn't help yourself and had to get the last word in after he said he wasn't going to continue the discussion. Good for you! Let me know when your nappies need a change
And yet you wrote this post to get the last word. Not only your post was completely worthless, it contains insults to the guy too.
Can you guys just stop it?
On related news, its confirmed, Naniwa left Quantic.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=357036
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Dubai Gaming - NaNiwa.
Gonna be so fucking rich!
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Nani, Sase, Inca and TOP to Nada's team.
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EPT
