The mOOnGLaDe Fan Club! - Page 6

On February 01 2011 03:00 Autarch wrote:
He is also Australian and doesn't look like a nerd, so I automatically love him.

George Sotiropoulos is my other man crush.

On January 31 2011 21:55 Space Invader wrote:
And yes, ZvZ is currently very volatile and you can easily win or lose by the flip of a coin.

On February 01 2011 14:03 tangwhat wrote:


Stop saying that, this was true about 1-2 months ago but it's no longer valid. ZvZ has reached a very stable point right now and players like Ret and IdrA consider it their favourite MU because it is as Ret once said "the only MU that is fair". There's no coinflipping there.

On February 01 2011 15:35 Space Invader wrote:

It's a lot of zerg's favourite matchup because of how weak zerg is with the current map pool, not because it isn't volatile.

On January 31 2011 20:35 Stabby.aus wrote:
you better wear something australian into the GSL player boxes

GL HF

On January 31 2011 21:55 Space Invader wrote:
Blah blah blah ...

On February 01 2011 16:33 MooiSh wrote:
It's may be a match up that can be decided by the slightest thing, so in that regard it is volatile. But it is very very far from a coinflip or luck based match up.

On February 01 2011 22:43 Space Invader wrote:

It's a coinflip because build-order losses are so common. If you go pool first and the other Zerg goes hatch first you're basically all in because you're so far behind. If you go hatch first and the other Zerg goes 9pool then you'll normally lose, I've held off 9pools without getting behind going 15hatch before but 90% of the time if you don't die outright you'll be behind. If you go Baneling and the other Zerg goes Roach you're again so far behind that you either have to go all in or rely on a mistake by them. If you don't scout extremely well, or can't, and they go all-in you will normally lose. And there's so many other situations where you can just lose outright because their build beats your build. Most of the time scouting is pretty unreliable which doesn't help at all.

Please stop flaming me and calling me a troll, I haven't trolled anywhere in this thread, I made one joke thread and that's it.

On February 01 2011 22:57 tangwhat wrote:
Don't hatch first without scouting. Going 14 gas/14 pool your first 4 lings can enter his base and scout a baneling nest or roach warren building before your baneling nest finishes so you can snap cancel it. Also going pool before hatch isn't an autolose, it's definitely a lot harder to come back and could be construed as a BO loss but I see IdrA do it a fair amount and it's always the same response, so it seems he has found a transition at least to even out the field. I mean your entire post feels outdated, all your points were all trueish a month ago but at this point they're pretty invalid. You should maybe watch Mr. Bitter's ZvZ Foundation VOD with LiquidRet.

Don't get offended that people are calling you a troll, it's just that you seem really confident about stuff that is no longer true. That and saying "scouting is pretty unreliable" is pretty erroneous. I find ZvZ the easiest matchup to scout with actually what with no walloffs and overseers after you both hit lair tech. I mean by the time you no longer get enough information with lings is around the time you'll have an overseer anyway.