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Space Invader
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia291 Posts
February 01 2011 04:46 GMT
#101
On February 01 2011 03:00 Autarch wrote:
He is also Australian and doesn't look like a nerd, so I automatically love him.

George Sotiropoulos is my other man crush.

I don't know about that, most pros don't even look like nerds. Artosis is the nerdiest of them all and he's pretty much on the godlike level of gorgeousness. Pimp out the glasses more.
I may be of thome athithtanthe if there ith a thudden crithith!
tangwhat
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand446 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 05:05:04
February 01 2011 05:03 GMT
#102
On January 31 2011 21:55 Space Invader wrote:
And yes, ZvZ is currently very volatile and you can easily win or lose by the flip of a coin.


Stop saying that, this was true about 1-2 months ago but it's no longer valid. ZvZ has reached a very stable point right now and players like Ret and IdrA consider it their favourite MU because it is as Ret once said "the only MU that is fair". There's no coinflipping there.
Space Invader
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia291 Posts
February 01 2011 06:35 GMT
#103
On February 01 2011 14:03 tangwhat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 21:55 Space Invader wrote:
And yes, ZvZ is currently very volatile and you can easily win or lose by the flip of a coin.


Stop saying that, this was true about 1-2 months ago but it's no longer valid. ZvZ has reached a very stable point right now and players like Ret and IdrA consider it their favourite MU because it is as Ret once said "the only MU that is fair". There's no coinflipping there.

It's a lot of zerg's favourite matchup because of how weak zerg is with the current map pool, not because it isn't volatile.
I may be of thome athithtanthe if there ith a thudden crithith!
Shuffleus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia764 Posts
February 01 2011 07:33 GMT
#104
GLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADE

Sign me up! Aussie Zergs Hwaiting!



On February 01 2011 15:35 Space Invader wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 14:03 tangwhat wrote:
On January 31 2011 21:55 Space Invader wrote:
And yes, ZvZ is currently very volatile and you can easily win or lose by the flip of a coin.


Stop saying that, this was true about 1-2 months ago but it's no longer valid. ZvZ has reached a very stable point right now and players like Ret and IdrA consider it their favourite MU because it is as Ret once said "the only MU that is fair". There's no coinflipping there.

It's a lot of zerg's favourite matchup because of how weak zerg is with the current map pool, not because it isn't volatile.



It's may be a match up that can be decided by the slightest thing, so in that regard it is volatile. But it is very very far from a coinflip or luck based match up.
| QuanticGaming.com | There is no greater feeling then to find order in the chaos, as you slip the puzzle pieces in place.
Robo-boogey
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia110 Posts
February 01 2011 07:59 GMT
#105
On January 31 2011 20:35 Stabby.aus wrote:
you better wear something australian into the GSL player boxes

GL HF

any relation to commander stab?
Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
February 01 2011 08:16 GMT
#106
mOOnGLaDe doing what he does best, owning face.

I support the man in all endeavours, plus, his stream was awesome
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
February 01 2011 08:25 GMT
#107
lol moonglade has sick hair, wonder how long that takes him :D Movie star user~
TwitteR: @NeverExpo follow me, i'll follow back :)
vinn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia112 Posts
February 01 2011 09:54 GMT
#108
haha he DOES have amazing hair!

sign me up ^^
.___.
mikell
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia352 Posts
February 01 2011 13:10 GMT
#109
after reading all of Space Invaders post, shouldn't a mod have decided he's a troll and ban him?

also

go go mOOnGLaDe I has a dang big man crush on you.
drone hard
SenSai
Profile Joined November 2005
Australia335 Posts
February 01 2011 13:30 GMT
#110

On January 31 2011 21:55 Space Invader wrote:
Blah blah blah ...



I think Space Invader needs to GTFO of this fan thread. Thanks
Space Invader
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia291 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 13:47:18
February 01 2011 13:43 GMT
#111
On February 01 2011 16:33 MooiSh wrote:
It's may be a match up that can be decided by the slightest thing, so in that regard it is volatile. But it is very very far from a coinflip or luck based match up.

It's a coinflip because build-order losses are so common. If you go pool first and the other Zerg goes hatch first you're basically all in because you're so far behind. If you go hatch first and the other Zerg goes 9pool then you'll normally lose, I've held off 9pools without getting behind going 15hatch before but 90% of the time if you don't die outright you'll be behind. If you go Baneling and the other Zerg goes Roach you're again so far behind that you either have to go all in or rely on a mistake by them. If you don't scout extremely well, or can't, and they go all-in you will normally lose. And there's so many other situations where you can just lose outright because their build beats your build. Most of the time scouting is pretty unreliable which doesn't help at all.

Please stop flaming me and calling me a troll, I haven't trolled anywhere in this thread, I made one joke thread and that's it.
I may be of thome athithtanthe if there ith a thudden crithith!
tangwhat
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand446 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 13:58:11
February 01 2011 13:57 GMT
#112
On February 01 2011 22:43 Space Invader wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 16:33 MooiSh wrote:
It's may be a match up that can be decided by the slightest thing, so in that regard it is volatile. But it is very very far from a coinflip or luck based match up.

It's a coinflip because build-order losses are so common. If you go pool first and the other Zerg goes hatch first you're basically all in because you're so far behind. If you go hatch first and the other Zerg goes 9pool then you'll normally lose, I've held off 9pools without getting behind going 15hatch before but 90% of the time if you don't die outright you'll be behind. If you go Baneling and the other Zerg goes Roach you're again so far behind that you either have to go all in or rely on a mistake by them. If you don't scout extremely well, or can't, and they go all-in you will normally lose. And there's so many other situations where you can just lose outright because their build beats your build. Most of the time scouting is pretty unreliable which doesn't help at all.

Please stop flaming me and calling me a troll, I haven't trolled anywhere in this thread, I made one joke thread and that's it.


Don't hatch first without scouting. Going 14 gas/14 pool your first 4 lings can enter his base and scout a baneling nest or roach warren building before your baneling nest finishes so you can snap cancel it. Also going pool before hatch isn't an autolose, it's definitely a lot harder to come back and could be construed as a BO loss but I see IdrA do it a fair amount and it's always the same response, so it seems he has found a transition at least to even out the field. I mean your entire post feels outdated, all your points were all trueish a month ago but at this point they're pretty invalid. You should maybe watch Mr. Bitter's ZvZ Foundation VOD with LiquidRet.

Don't get offended that people are calling you a troll, it's just that you seem really confident about stuff that is no longer true. That and saying "scouting is pretty unreliable" is pretty erroneous. I find ZvZ the easiest matchup to scout with actually what with no walloffs and overseers after you both hit lair tech. I mean by the time you no longer get enough information with lings is around the time you'll have an overseer anyway.
Space Invader
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia291 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-02 02:18:54
February 01 2011 23:06 GMT
#113
On February 01 2011 22:57 tangwhat wrote:
Don't hatch first without scouting. Going 14 gas/14 pool your first 4 lings can enter his base and scout a baneling nest or roach warren building before your baneling nest finishes so you can snap cancel it. Also going pool before hatch isn't an autolose, it's definitely a lot harder to come back and could be construed as a BO loss but I see IdrA do it a fair amount and it's always the same response, so it seems he has found a transition at least to even out the field. I mean your entire post feels outdated, all your points were all trueish a month ago but at this point they're pretty invalid. You should maybe watch Mr. Bitter's ZvZ Foundation VOD with LiquidRet.

Don't get offended that people are calling you a troll, it's just that you seem really confident about stuff that is no longer true. That and saying "scouting is pretty unreliable" is pretty erroneous. I find ZvZ the easiest matchup to scout with actually what with no walloffs and overseers after you both hit lair tech. I mean by the time you no longer get enough information with lings is around the time you'll have an overseer anyway.

In ZvZ it's more efficient to hatch first without scouting, I feel pretty confident holding off any pressure unless they go allin which is a different situation. The reason IdrA wins with pool first is actually basically because ZvZ can be so luck-based, as well as the fact that he's just a lot better than most of them. I've watched all of Mr. Bitter's videos, I don't lose ZvZs because of a lack of understanding but just because they go allin and I haven't prepared sufficiently.

The thing with scouting is, yeah once you get to Lair you have Overseers and speed upgrade, but that's not the dangerous point of the game. The point of the game where scouting really matters and where it's most-often denied is in the first few minutes, because the pool-firsting Zerg has map control the only way you can get information is with Overlords - that is, checking his expo. Some Zergs will make the expo, though, and then proceed to allin. So its not always reliable.
I may be of thome athithtanthe if there ith a thudden crithith!
tangwhat
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand446 Posts
February 02 2011 05:10 GMT
#114
Don't complain about losing to 9pool and earlier when you hatch first then? It's got nothing to do with luck, if you don't scout you have to accept that you will inevitably lose to a 9pool occasionally, if you drone scout then you will never lose to a 9pool. Also I don't know how you can say IdrA wins because ZvZ is luck-based then go on to say in the exact same sentence that he's better than them. If it was luck-based he wouldn't be beating them because he was better than them. I don't even see how it's luck-based, there's a small timing window for IdrA to attack with in order to set the hatch first on the backfoot so that IdrA can catch up in the macro game. This is a case of someone understanding the matchup and being better, it's got nothing to do with luck. I don't even know how you can actually say you can't scout with lings early on in the game, zerg can't wall off and if you're running your first 4 lings straight into his base without waiting there's no possible way for you to not get scouting information. I don't know how you can be wrong so vehemently and make so many excuses for holes in your gameplay. You're not going to get better at the matchup if you keep saying you can't do this and you can't do that when high level ZvZ disproves literally everything you say.
Trinz
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia72 Posts
February 02 2011 09:55 GMT
#115
Sign me up!!!!!!

AUSSIE PRIDE!!!
Deadlyfish
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1980 Posts
February 02 2011 12:31 GMT
#116
Seems like a really nice guy, hope he gets far in the GSL Sign me up!
If wishes were horses we'd be eating steak right now.
BrahCJ
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia659 Posts
February 02 2011 12:43 GMT
#117
Went on a bit of a mOOnGLaDe day today!
Watched him win the IEM again, then watched his interview with Artosis, then listened to an interview he did with TB.
What a stand-out bloke. All round nice guy, humble, polite, good man.
Play the games!
Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1259 Posts
February 06 2011 00:17 GMT
#118
I'm going to do some more commentaries today of Glade and some other Aussie players from TA invitational - hopefully they'll be uploaded by tomorrow
Former SC2 commentator. youtube.com/duckvillelol
blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
February 07 2011 22:03 GMT
#119
SIGN ME UP NOOOW :D

fiiiiiiiiightiiiing!!!
Liquid
BrahCJ
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia659 Posts
February 07 2011 23:38 GMT
#120
Any word from glade to see how hes going in S.Korea?
Hows the final month of prep going?
Play the games!
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