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On April 06 2011 10:08 OHKae wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 09:58 HolyArrow wrote:
Haha. Go into a player's fanclub, call him a tool/fool/one-dimensional player/one-trick pony, and insist, "Oh, but I'm actually a fan!"
Niiiice. Troll harder, son. You`re getting the wrong impression here. I`m a fan... because of his one dimensional plays, because it's very entertaining, and he's very confident which makes me a bigger fan, so whenever he loses, I don't feel pity for him 'cause his confidence overwhelms me. "Don't worry, Losing will only make him better.... Look at MKP" <<<that's my thought (: He's a one trick pony but a two time champion.. What's not to be a fan of?
Welcome to TL, enjoy your stay.
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I was so looking forward to an Mvp vs. MC finals >.<. That would have been AMAZING.
At least now I get to see Mvp manhandle MarineKing, I guess.
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On April 06 2011 10:32 Moonloop wrote:
I was so looking forward to an Mvp vs. MC finals >.<. That would have been AMAZING.
At least now I get to see Mvp manhandle MarineKing, I guess.
Yeah, I'm going to be pretty annoyed if MVP rolls MKP 4:0. It would just make me think about how much better MC vs. MVP would have been.
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On April 06 2011 10:57 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 10:32 Moonloop wrote:
I was so looking forward to an Mvp vs. MC finals >.<. That would have been AMAZING.
At least now I get to see Mvp manhandle MarineKing, I guess. Yeah, I'm going to be pretty annoyed if MVP rolls MKP 4:0. It would just make me think about how much better MC vs. MVP would have been.
Funny that you accuse others of trolling while making complete assumptions yourself. "How much better MC vs. MVP would have been"... Hrmmm. I'm thinking one should only type that statement after the games have been played. But even then, who knows how good a series between MVP and MC would be without actually experiencing it? K.
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On April 06 2011 11:48 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 10:57 HolyArrow wrote:On April 06 2011 10:32 Moonloop wrote:
I was so looking forward to an Mvp vs. MC finals >.<. That would have been AMAZING.
At least now I get to see Mvp manhandle MarineKing, I guess. Yeah, I'm going to be pretty annoyed if MVP rolls MKP 4:0. It would just make me think about how much better MC vs. MVP would have been. Funny that you accuse others of trolling while making complete assumptions yourself. "How much better MC vs. MVP would have been"... Hrmmm. I'm thinking one should only type that statement after the games have been played. But even then, who knows how good a series between MVP and MC would be without actually experiencing it? K.
My point wasn't to presume that MC vs. MVP would definitely be better than MKP vs. MVP. My point was that IF (important word right there) it's a 4:0 blowout like last time then there are very excellent odds that MC vs. MVP would have been better. If MVP vs. MKP turns out to be really close and epic, then I'll be perfectly happy.
Oh, and your first sentence makes absolutely no sense. Trolling and making assumptions are completely different things, so if you're trying to paint me as a hypocrite or something, you're doing a pretty bad job of it. I could further elaborate on why that sentence is nonsensical, but I'd rather not waste my time.
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On April 06 2011 11:48 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 10:57 HolyArrow wrote:On April 06 2011 10:32 Moonloop wrote:
I was so looking forward to an Mvp vs. MC finals >.<. That would have been AMAZING.
At least now I get to see Mvp manhandle MarineKing, I guess. Yeah, I'm going to be pretty annoyed if MVP rolls MKP 4:0. It would just make me think about how much better MC vs. MVP would have been. Funny that you accuse others of trolling while making complete assumptions yourself. "How much better MC vs. MVP would have been"... Hrmmm. I'm thinking one should only type that statement after the games have been played. But even then, who knows how good a series between MVP and MC would be without actually experiencing it? K.
"think about"
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On April 06 2011 11:48 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 10:57 HolyArrow wrote:On April 06 2011 10:32 Moonloop wrote:
I was so looking forward to an Mvp vs. MC finals >.<. That would have been AMAZING.
At least now I get to see Mvp manhandle MarineKing, I guess. Yeah, I'm going to be pretty annoyed if MVP rolls MKP 4:0. It would just make me think about how much better MC vs. MVP would have been. Funny that you accuse others of trolling while making complete assumptions yourself. "How much better MC vs. MVP would have been"... Hrmmm. I'm thinking one should only type that statement after the games have been played. But even then, who knows how good a series between MVP and MC would be without actually experiencing it? K.
Rofl. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
How the hell is saying "If Mvp rolls marineking, it'll make me wonder how much better MC vs Mvp would be.", trolling?"
MC is one of the most dangerous players in the world. Whether he's the best or not is arguable, but you can't deny that people are terrified of him. Mvp? The same.
MarineKing got rolled 4-0 when he played against Mvp. I think it's a pretty safe bet that MC would put up a bigger fight than that.
Seriously ...
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On April 06 2011 13:18 Moonloop wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 11:48 FallDownMarigold wrote:On April 06 2011 10:57 HolyArrow wrote:On April 06 2011 10:32 Moonloop wrote:
I was so looking forward to an Mvp vs. MC finals >.<. That would have been AMAZING.
At least now I get to see Mvp manhandle MarineKing, I guess. Yeah, I'm going to be pretty annoyed if MVP rolls MKP 4:0. It would just make me think about how much better MC vs. MVP would have been. Funny that you accuse others of trolling while making complete assumptions yourself. "How much better MC vs. MVP would have been"... Hrmmm. I'm thinking one should only type that statement after the games have been played. But even then, who knows how good a series between MVP and MC would be without actually experiencing it? K. Rofl. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. How the hell is saying "If Mvp rolls marineking, it'll make me wonder how much better MC vs Mvp would be.", trolling?" MC is one of the most dangerous players in the world. Whether he's the best or not is arguable, but you can't deny that people are terrified of him. Mvp? The same. MarineKing got rolled 4-0 when he played against Mvp. I think it's a pretty safe bet that MC would put up a bigger fight than that. Seriously ...
its alright. some people on this forum are fucking retarded. they were born that way. they cant really help it
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On April 06 2011 12:00 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 11:48 FallDownMarigold wrote:On April 06 2011 10:57 HolyArrow wrote:On April 06 2011 10:32 Moonloop wrote:
I was so looking forward to an Mvp vs. MC finals >.<. That would have been AMAZING.
At least now I get to see Mvp manhandle MarineKing, I guess. Yeah, I'm going to be pretty annoyed if MVP rolls MKP 4:0. It would just make me think about how much better MC vs. MVP would have been. Funny that you accuse others of trolling while making complete assumptions yourself. "How much better MC vs. MVP would have been"... Hrmmm. I'm thinking one should only type that statement after the games have been played. But even then, who knows how good a series between MVP and MC would be without actually experiencing it? K. My point wasn't to presume that MC vs. MVP would definitely be better than MKP vs. MVP. My point was that IF (important word right there) it's a 4:0 blowout like last time then there are very excellent odds that MC vs. MVP would have been better. If MVP vs. MKP turns out to be really close and epic, then I'll be perfectly happy. Oh, and your first sentence makes absolutely no sense. Trolling and making assumptions are completely different things, so if you're trying to paint me as a hypocrite or something, you're doing a pretty bad job of it. I could further elaborate on why that sentence is nonsensical, but I'd rather not waste my time.
Then you'd better make a complete list of assumptions like:
If MVP 4:0 MKP, I will be ..
If MVP 4:3 MKP, I will be...
............
If MVP 3:4 MKP, I will be ...
IFMVP 0:4 MKP, I will be...
The fact that you purposely only presume that MVP 4:0 MKP clearly shows something. People can read your words. Don't try to find stupid excuses to defend yourself by treating others like idiots.
Mind you. MC lost because he got outplayed by MKP. Don't blame or curse MKP. Face it: the better player atm wins. Cursing the opponents cannot bring you to victory. It only makes you look like an idiot.
I'm sure MC will never say the same stupid thing as you said, cause he is a great Champion! And he puts trust in hard work as the key to success.
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He's the sickest protoss ever. Sad to see him face the comeback of MKP.
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Should update the OP with achievements and stuffz, MC deserves an awesome fan club 
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On April 06 2011 14:10 bearhug wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 12:00 HolyArrow wrote:On April 06 2011 11:48 FallDownMarigold wrote:On April 06 2011 10:57 HolyArrow wrote:On April 06 2011 10:32 Moonloop wrote:
I was so looking forward to an Mvp vs. MC finals >.<. That would have been AMAZING.
At least now I get to see Mvp manhandle MarineKing, I guess. Yeah, I'm going to be pretty annoyed if MVP rolls MKP 4:0. It would just make me think about how much better MC vs. MVP would have been. Funny that you accuse others of trolling while making complete assumptions yourself. "How much better MC vs. MVP would have been"... Hrmmm. I'm thinking one should only type that statement after the games have been played. But even then, who knows how good a series between MVP and MC would be without actually experiencing it? K. My point wasn't to presume that MC vs. MVP would definitely be better than MKP vs. MVP. My point was that IF (important word right there) it's a 4:0 blowout like last time then there are very excellent odds that MC vs. MVP would have been better. If MVP vs. MKP turns out to be really close and epic, then I'll be perfectly happy. Oh, and your first sentence makes absolutely no sense. Trolling and making assumptions are completely different things, so if you're trying to paint me as a hypocrite or something, you're doing a pretty bad job of it. I could further elaborate on why that sentence is nonsensical, but I'd rather not waste my time. Then you'd better make a complete list of assumptions like: If MVP 4:0 MKP, I will be .. If MVP 4:3 MKP, I will be... ............ If MVP 3:4 MKP, I will be ... IFMVP 0:4 MKP, I will be... The fact that you purposely only presume that MVP 4:0 MKP clearly shows something. People can read your words. Don't try to find stupid excuses to defend yourself by treating others like idiots. Mind you. MC lost because he got outplayed by MKP. Don't blame or curse MKP. Face it: the better player atm wins. Cursing the opponents cannot bring you to victory. It only makes you look like an idiot. I'm sure MC will never say the same stupid thing as you said, cause he is a great Champion! And he puts trust in hard work as the key to success.
I don't even know where to begin.
First, my 4:0 statement is justified (or at least somewhat supported) by how the finals of MKP vs. MVP previously went. Why should I make a complete list of assumptions? Yes, the fact that I'm only discussing a MVP vs. MKP 4:0 does show something: It shows that I look toward what happened in the past when I discuss upcoming games. Is there anything wrong with that? Your suggestion that I make a complete list of assumptions is completely ridiculous.
Secondly, I try not to talk down to people unless there's something provably wrong and flawed about what they say in response to a post of mine. What was provably wrong about FallDownMarigold's post? To begin, the first sentence makes no sense. He seems to try to equate making assumptions to trolling to imply that I'm a hypocrite somehow, which makes zero sense. Secondly, he tries to fault me for speculating on why MC vs. MVP might be a better series than MKP vs. MVP, even though my speculation is backed up by MKP's last encounter with MVP - it was the most one-sided finals in GSL history, while we haven't ever seen a Bo7 between MC and MVP. Is there anything wrong with speculating that the unseen matchup might produce a better series than a matchup that we've already seen in the finals of the January GSL? I don't see anything wrong with it.
Thus, I don't see myself trying to make "stupid excuses to defend myself by treating others like idiots". I've specifically outlined my thought process, and it seems completely reasonable. I've also clarified that if MKP vs. MVP this time around happens to be really awesome, then I'd be perfectly happy. You seem to take offense at me speculating based off of very real past results, which I find laughable. Remember - it's just speculation. I'm not saying that there WILL be a 4:0 again - in fact, I made it clear that I'd much rather it be a good, close series. People can read my words? Yeah, sure they can. They can read my words completely incorrectly if they're already looking so hard to attack my statements that they perceive insults to MKP that aren't even there.
You strawman me by accusing me of blaming/cursing MKP. Where did I do that? I'm quite confused by that accusation because I frankly don't see it. It seems like you're just misinterpreting me left and right or otherwise are simply not thinking about my statements thoroughly enough. I don't even know what you meant by "MC would never say the same stupid thing that you said". What stupid thing? You should be clearer when you try to deliver dramatic insults like that.
Lastly, I see NOTHING wrong with professing my desire (and my inclination that MC vs. MVP would be a better series than MKP vs. MVP) for a MC vs. MVP finals over a MKP vs. MVP finals in the friggin' MC fanclub.
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STOP FEEDING TROLLS This thread is about admiration of the great MC, if you don't like him get out.
Anyway, here is latest Twitter from MC (google translated) he sounds pissed and wants to crush souls!
"Wrath of the ladder, starting"
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Good to see MC tweeting like that, I was worried he'd be feeling down due to his loss last night 
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On April 06 2011 12:00 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2011 11:48 FallDownMarigold wrote:On April 06 2011 10:57 HolyArrow wrote:On April 06 2011 10:32 Moonloop wrote:
I was so looking forward to an Mvp vs. MC finals >.<. That would have been AMAZING.
At least now I get to see Mvp manhandle MarineKing, I guess. Yeah, I'm going to be pretty annoyed if MVP rolls MKP 4:0. It would just make me think about how much better MC vs. MVP would have been. Funny that you accuse others of trolling while making complete assumptions yourself. "How much better MC vs. MVP would have been"... Hrmmm. I'm thinking one should only type that statement after the games have been played. But even then, who knows how good a series between MVP and MC would be without actually experiencing it? K. My point wasn't to presume that MC vs. MVP would definitely be better than MKP vs. MVP. My point was that IF (important word right there) it's a 4:0 blowout like last time then there are very excellent odds that MC vs. MVP would have been better. If MVP vs. MKP turns out to be really close and epic, then I'll be perfectly happy. Oh, and your first sentence makes absolutely no sense. Trolling and making assumptions are completely different things, so if you're trying to paint me as a hypocrite or something, you're doing a pretty bad job of it. I could further elaborate on why that sentence is nonsensical, but I'd rather not waste my time.
Calm down there buddy, I was under the impression that unfounded assumptions counted as 'trolling'. My apologies if the rigorously defined term 'trolling' does not actually include this interpretation of the word in its list of proper uses. I didn't know it was such a narrowly defined and proper word - I thought it was just a loose term applicable to annoying instances, utterances, or occurrences on the internet.
Anyway, I was merely annoyed by the fact that you assumed MC vs. MVP would be much better than a 4-0 against MKP (perhaps "could" is what you meant in place of "would"?). Based off your words, the insinuation is that MKP is a worse player than MVP, which is simply unfair to assume based off one previous GSL's results. In fact, according to interviews, the current remaining GSL players feel very even against one another. Regardless, the fact of the matter is, we don't know that MC vs. MVP would be any better than a 4-0 MVP:MKP set. It could very well be a 4-0 MC:MVP result. Moreover, it has been stated in interviews that MVP isn't feeling good about Protoss at the moment; thusly, it is in fact unreasonable to assume that an MVP vs. MC matchup would be any "better" than an MKP vs. MVP matchup - even at its worst. To assume that it would be "better", is, well, an assumption. Hence my discontent, and hence my application of the term 'troll' to the situation. I didn't include any personal attacks, nor will I, but if you'd like to continue berating me for being "ignorant" and "stupid", so be it. I'm simply clarifying, and that is all.
Cheers.
edit: To be fair, I now see that your post was not the post that included flagrant personal attacks. That was a following post by another user. I will suggest, however, that you avoid "talking down" to people (even if you disagree about a perceived 'wrong' statement) - it's simply not the most efficient way to win over support or admiration. You can disagree without "talking down". It's much more mature and conducive to discussion.
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I don't care what you're arguing about, or with who, but use a PM, not MCs fanclub thread. GTFO. please.
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idd, be gone, this is a place of worship! ;-)
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On April 07 2011 01:04 mizU wrote:
I don't care what you're arguing about, or with who, but use a PM, not MCs fanclub thread. GTFO. please.
You're right, I apologize. I just didn't expect to be attacked for wishing for an MC vs. MVP finals in MC's very own fanclub thread I thought I would be safe here... :X
Anyway, I noticed after translating stuff on twitter via google translate that MC is mentioning a girlfriend. Anyone have pics? >_>
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It's no secret that MVP vs. MC would have been a better finals from a viewer's standpoint before the match begins. You have the best protoss player in the world going up agains the best terran player in the world and a lot of questions get answered in a best of 7. It'd definitely be more hyped and the two have not played each other outside of one game in the GSTL where MVP hard countered MC's dt rush. Don't really see how people are actually arguing that MKP vs. MVP is a somewhat disappointing finals to look forward to considering the two have met twice before to play in a best of 5 and 7 and where MKP will be a huge underdog.
And now chances are that we won't see an MVP MC series for quite a while since MVP is in code A next season, and also out of the TSL.
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Sorry MC, im a huge fan of you and your playstyle, but I gotta root for the RA during this upcoming match. Heratige > Fandom (I have Ukrainian heratige, not Korean)
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