On November 11 2010 01:46 zev318 wrote: Still don't know why people are all upset at what Cella streams on his own stream. He's not holding a gun to your head making you watch it. If he wants his fans to see his friend, he's allowed to do that, if you don't like it, go somewhere else? Some people acting like it's Cella's job to play SC2 all day when he's streaming, and now retards are on his ass 24/7 PMing mods whenever Cella does something they don't like (streaming his friend, making jokes about donations, etc)
edit: Cella might say donate, but honestly I don't even know where to donate. He doesn't spam his paypal account in chat and go DONATE DONATE DONATE (I assume he uses paypal)
The issue isn't what he does on his stream. The issue is whether the stream should be featured while he's doing all this other stuff.
EDIT: I'm not saying it should or it shouldn't since I haven't been able to watch much lately, just that that is what the concern is.
On November 11 2010 01:46 zev318 wrote: Still don't know why people are all upset at what Cella streams on his own stream. He's not holding a gun to your head making you watch it. If he wants his fans to see his friend, he's allowed to do that, if you don't like it, go somewhere else? Some people acting like it's Cella's job to play SC2 all day when he's streaming, and now retards are on his ass 24/7 PMing mods whenever Cella does something they don't like (streaming his friend, making jokes about donations, etc)
edit: Cella might say donate, but honestly I don't even know where to donate. He doesn't spam his paypal account in chat and go DONATE DONATE DONATE (I assume he uses paypal)
The issue isn't what he does on his stream. The issue is whether the stream should be featured while he's doing all this other stuff.
EDIT: I'm not saying it should or it shouldn't since I haven't been able to watch much lately, just that that is what the concern is.
That would be quite hard for you Mods then. If Cella is playing SC2 85%-90% of the time and wants to entertain his fans afterwards or in between his SC2 sessions, you'd have to constantly watch his stream to unfeature him when he's not playing SC2 and then refeature him when he is. And to unfeature him because of what he does in that 10%-15%.... I dunno, just seems like a lot of work lol.
The complaints are pretty ridiculous if I understand them correctly. Cella streams more games than any other streamer out there (especially at the level he plays). He'll have probably an hour of doing miscellaneous stuff in total like talking to his friend on skype, or eating, or karoke, but that's followed by something insane like 8+ hours of gaming. For example he was streaming games for a few hours today before he took around a 30 minute break to chat with his friend sonia. And now he's been playing games non-stop on the EU server (Probably 13+ so far). And he has the flu.
On November 11 2010 01:50 Chill wrote: It's not a black and white issue, so don't pretend it is.
You don't have to stream SC2 all the time. But you also can't spend your entire streaming time joking around and doing nothing. I can't even watch his stream at work to verify what's happening, so this is a clusterfuck to moderate.
Cella basically never streams SC2 at first. I've been tuning in lately at work because I'm doing a lot of spec'ing things out, which is insanely boring to me. At any rate, the first 30 - 60 minutes is usually something that isn't in SC2, but then he'll go on a tear of playing for at least 4 hours almost straight. He definitely spends some time doing things that aren't SC2, but I don't agree with posts saying it's all he does.
I'm sure someone could come up with some anecdote to how he spent X hours Y days ago doing something not SC2, but it seems a little over-done.
On November 11 2010 01:46 zev318 wrote: Still don't know why people are all upset at what Cella streams on his own stream. He's not holding a gun to your head making you watch it. If he wants his fans to see his friend, he's allowed to do that, if you don't like it, go somewhere else? Some people acting like it's Cella's job to play SC2 all day when he's streaming, and now retards are on his ass 24/7 PMing mods whenever Cella does something they don't like (streaming his friend, making jokes about donations, etc)
edit: Cella might say donate, but honestly I don't even know where to donate. He doesn't spam his paypal account in chat and go DONATE DONATE DONATE (I assume he uses paypal)
The issue isn't what he does on his stream. The issue is whether the stream should be featured while he's doing all this other stuff.
EDIT: I'm not saying it should or it shouldn't since I haven't been able to watch much lately, just that that is what the concern is.
That would be quite hard for you Mods then. If Cella is playing SC2 85%-90% of the time and wants to entertain his fans afterwards or in between his SC2 sessions, you'd have to constantly watch his stream to unfeature him when he's not playing SC2 and then refeature him when he is. And to unfeature him because of what he does in that 10%-15%.... I dunno, just seems like a lot of work lol.
Actually, he could just set his stream status to [misc] instead of [SC2]
Hmm, stupid question. As long as he isn't playing sc2, he could put a [misc] in front of his name. And when he's playing o.c. [SC2] as others do... or? edit: BroOd was faster :p (higher APM?)
Like the above have said, Cella does in fact stream games the majority of the time, and goes on some incredible gaming sessions. Yeah he'll take a break and shoot the shit for a while sometimes, but surely checking up to unfeature him whenever he does that is unfeasible.
Maybe some haters that Q.Q b/c there streams are not featured may think twice instead of messing around. Cella is fun to watch and he plays on 3 differents ladders. His stream is just different from other ppl that just play and be too serious about the game. He understood the issue with asking donation, and he does it less if not at all.
cella doing silly things/singing I believe is what makes his stream entertaining on top of his sc2 play. It is also what I believe sprouted this fan club in the first place (you dont see fan clubs of many other game only streams).
For example you tune into a BW stream, there might be almost as much commercial time as game time on a random day, do streamers have to set the stream to misc during commercials?
On some days he would only stream his games then sigh off, on other days he might do some silly things (singing) before his sleep, but the viewers would keep posting videos for him to watch and ask him to sing more.
If people do not like what they are watching just go watch something else.
On November 11 2010 02:34 Hikari wrote: cella doing silly things/singing I believe is what makes his stream entertaining on top of his sc2 play. It is also what I believe sprouted this fan club in the first place (you dont see fan clubs of many other game only streams).
For example you tune into a BW stream, there might be almost as much commercial time as game time on a random day, do streamers have to set the stream to misc during commercials?
On some days he would only stream his games then sigh off, on other days he might do some silly things (singing) before his sleep, but the viewers would keep posting videos for him to watch and ask him to sing more.
If people do not like what they are watching just go watch something else.
On November 11 2010 02:34 Hikari wrote: cella doing silly things/singing I believe is what makes his stream entertaining on top of his sc2 play. It is also what I believe sprouted this fan club in the first place (you dont see fan clubs of many other game only streams).
For example you tune into a BW stream, there might be almost as much commercial time as game time on a random day, do streamers have to set the stream to misc during commercials?
On some days he would only stream his games then sigh off, on other days he might do some silly things (singing) before his sleep, but the viewers would keep posting videos for him to watch and ask him to sing more.
If people do not like what they are watching just go watch something else.
You know that the streamers don't start those commercials themselves, right? They're controlled by the streaming service and play at different times for every viewer, it's a completely incomparable situation on every level.
Like I said, Cella is free to do what he likes on his stream (within reason, of course), but setting the [misc] tag if he wants to eat or webcam or chat with his viewers only serves to increase clarity and is really no burden. If he's taking a 5-10 minute break or something it's not really necessary to go to the trouble, but if he's doing his karaoke or skyping or eating for a block of time there's really no reason not to do it.
On November 11 2010 02:50 Xadar wrote: wow, didnt know chill was such a jerk
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Chill has been completely reasonable here. You, on the other hand, have a very unimpressive posting history and shouldn't be swinging into threads to post one-liner insults.
I enjoy his Stream alot, hes playing 2v2 random now and its just as fun to watch as his Zerg 1v1 earlier, even if he isn't playing his main race. He is still human after all, and he streams alot of SC2. He deserves his feature in my opinion and shouldn't be expected to stream JUST SC2 24/7. Give the guy a break he contributes alot already.
On November 11 2010 02:34 Hikari wrote: cella doing silly things/singing I believe is what makes his stream entertaining on top of his sc2 play. It is also what I believe sprouted this fan club in the first place (you dont see fan clubs of many other game only streams).
For example you tune into a BW stream, there might be almost as much commercial time as game time on a random day, do streamers have to set the stream to misc during commercials?
On some days he would only stream his games then sigh off, on other days he might do some silly things (singing) before his sleep, but the viewers would keep posting videos for him to watch and ask him to sing more.
If people do not like what they are watching just go watch something else.
You know that the streamers don't start those commercials themselves, right? They're controlled by the streaming service and play at different times for every viewer, it's a completely incomparable situation on every level.
Like I said, Cella is free to do what he likes on his stream (within reason, of course), but setting the [misc] tag if he wants to eat or webcam or chat with his viewers only serves to increase clarity and is really no burden. If he's taking a 5-10 minute break or something it's not really necessary to go to the trouble, but if he's doing his karaoke or skyping or eating for a block of time there's really no reason not to do it.
I would like to confirm this. With each streaming service the ad rotation is totally different. With Livestream and Ustream it's based on when the user joins. So at a single time with 1000 viewers 300 might be on a commercial and 700 watching, or 1000 watching and no commercials. You never know, it does not tell you this stuff.
And every other featured streamer sets their status to misc when not doing SCII. GLHF.tv does it when they do other games, we do it when we used to do DoW2 or when Raelcun holds a Robot Unicorn Attack showdown, Trump sets it when he plays WoW, etc, etc. I don't think it's unreasonable request to ask Cella to do the same.
I still think cella laddering a new acc was the funniest thing i ever saw, when i get home i will just look for pro´s smurfing, vods are so fuuuuuuuuuuuuun
I do enjoy watching Cella play his games on all servers and he's proven himself to be one of the top players in the world. I know sometimes he goes off on weird tangents, but the majority of the time, he does play Starcraft games.
He streams A LOT. I can understand that sometimes he does not want to play because of the hours he plays a day and would rather goof off. I know he may be able to change it to Misc, but I usually see those goofing off periods to be probably... 30 minutes to one hour max? I don't watch him everyday but I never see those "Misc" periods lasting for a long time.
I really do not think he should be un-featured due to what he does 10% of the time. He brings entertainment, which is primarily SC2, to a lot of the community and that should say enough.
He may ask for donations, never found it excessive... but you don't have to donate. He's not one of those people who say, "Give donations or I won't stream." ...If he switches to that, then... pretty sure a lot of us will have changing positions.
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