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On July 02 2011 08:27 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Did I say shit about balance? No.
I said facts, if you see what I said to be about imbalance than you have your own disposition.
Also, protoss always has better upgrades if they want them, it's their racial advantage. They can get a 7gate +2 blink stalker attack with chroboboost timing attack before you even start +2.
Haha you're right, you only said that protoss will ONLY EVER lose to zerg if they do "retarded shit". Nah, I can't see how anyone could assume that you're talking about imbalance right?
I enjoy trying to watch you back pedal.
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On July 02 2011 09:00 BearChocolate wrote:
This is the IdrA fan club. Stop arguing please.
Did anyone see that MLG has posted the groups for MLG Anaheim? IdrA's group has iNcontroL, SjoW, Sheth, and a Korean. Doesn't look like the hardest group he's ever been in but Sheth will have been practicing in Korea for a while, iNcontroL seems to have rededicated himself to being less of a caster and more of a player and SjoW was one of the few to take a game off of MMA.
I think he can do well in the group though.
Accordng to IdrA's NASL stats, Sheth will give him the hardest time.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7s74s.png)
The irony of these stats hurts my head.
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On July 02 2011 08:19 Mafs wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 04:55 ThreeActPlay wrote:Yeah, he's been playing EU so too much bonus pool i imagine -- he'll get back up there for sure. No he hasnt, he has been playing on NA from EU just on a smurf. He is practicing terran, I'm 90% sure the account is his. But I think he doesnt want to stream because he is playing on a smurf and he doesn't want people to know he is switching(not 100% sure if he will switch yet since his Z is still way better then his T)
I was wrong, Idra isnt practicing terran. Its someone else who knows machine, ret, skew, and theognis.Who also has a very similar playstyle to idra. OR that idra can ladder on 2account vs GM players at once with 2 different races.
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On July 02 2011 09:10 ploy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 08:27 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Did I say shit about balance? No.
I said facts, if you see what I said to be about imbalance than you have your own disposition.
Also, protoss always has better upgrades if they want them, it's their racial advantage. They can get a 7gate +2 blink stalker attack with chroboboost timing attack before you even start +2. Haha you're right, you only said that protoss will ONLY EVER lose to zerg if they do "retarded shit". Nah, I can't see how anyone could assume that you're talking about imbalance right? I enjoy trying to watch you back pedal.
What I said is based on observations, and my observation simply concludes that when zerg win, the protoss usually makes a major game-ending mistake that competent protoss players, do not.
The very rare time where a zerg and protoss both make zero major mistakes, it ends up that unless it's losira playing, the protoss wins more than 55-60% of the time.
Losira's entire play style is to try to cause one of these game-ending mistakes within the first 15 minutes to break a protoss before they can enter a stable mid-late game.
Out of all the GSL games in the last 3 GSL seasons, if a protoss is able to freely take a third and saturate it, they will win like 75% of the time against Z.
These are trends that I examine that I wish were as obvious to other people as they were to me, but they can't really discuss it on this website in most areas.
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They're obvious to me as well but whenever this type of discussion comes up, people get banned. So yeah.
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On July 02 2011 09:12 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 09:00 BearChocolate wrote:
This is the IdrA fan club. Stop arguing please.
Did anyone see that MLG has posted the groups for MLG Anaheim? IdrA's group has iNcontroL, SjoW, Sheth, and a Korean. Doesn't look like the hardest group he's ever been in but Sheth will have been practicing in Korea for a while, iNcontroL seems to have rededicated himself to being less of a caster and more of a player and SjoW was one of the few to take a game off of MMA.
I think he can do well in the group though. Accordng to IdrA's NASL stats, Sheth will give him the hardest time. The irony of these stats hurts my head.
6 games is not sufficient sample size to say anything reasonable.
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You have to look at who he lost to
Zenio has some of the best ZvZ in the world, second only to Nestea. And Sen who is widely considered to be one of the top foreign zergs with idra. No offense to Sheth but you can harldy put him in the same class as zenio and sen
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On July 02 2011 09:12 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 09:00 BearChocolate wrote:
This is the IdrA fan club. Stop arguing please.
Did anyone see that MLG has posted the groups for MLG Anaheim? IdrA's group has iNcontroL, SjoW, Sheth, and a Korean. Doesn't look like the hardest group he's ever been in but Sheth will have been practicing in Korea for a while, iNcontroL seems to have rededicated himself to being less of a caster and more of a player and SjoW was one of the few to take a game off of MMA.
I think he can do well in the group though. Accordng to IdrA's NASL stats, Sheth will give him the hardest time. The irony of these stats hurts my head.
Idra played Sheth in a pretty one-sided show match for $200 so looking at stats from a single tournament is pointless when we have head to head stats to look at.
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On July 02 2011 11:14 Mycl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 09:12 Chargelot wrote:On July 02 2011 09:00 BearChocolate wrote:
This is the IdrA fan club. Stop arguing please.
Did anyone see that MLG has posted the groups for MLG Anaheim? IdrA's group has iNcontroL, SjoW, Sheth, and a Korean. Doesn't look like the hardest group he's ever been in but Sheth will have been practicing in Korea for a while, iNcontroL seems to have rededicated himself to being less of a caster and more of a player and SjoW was one of the few to take a game off of MMA.
I think he can do well in the group though. Accordng to IdrA's NASL stats, Sheth will give him the hardest time. The irony of these stats hurts my head. Idra played Sheth in a pretty one-sided show match for $200 so looking at stats from a single tournament is pointless when we have head to head stats to look at.
That is one series, not even one tournament.
IdrA once 2-0'ed MC.
Showing stats from a single series is pointless when we have actual head to head stats to look at.
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On July 02 2011 11:26 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 11:14 Mycl wrote:On July 02 2011 09:12 Chargelot wrote:On July 02 2011 09:00 BearChocolate wrote:
This is the IdrA fan club. Stop arguing please.
Did anyone see that MLG has posted the groups for MLG Anaheim? IdrA's group has iNcontroL, SjoW, Sheth, and a Korean. Doesn't look like the hardest group he's ever been in but Sheth will have been practicing in Korea for a while, iNcontroL seems to have rededicated himself to being less of a caster and more of a player and SjoW was one of the few to take a game off of MMA.
I think he can do well in the group though. Accordng to IdrA's NASL stats, Sheth will give him the hardest time. The irony of these stats hurts my head. Idra played Sheth in a pretty one-sided show match for $200 so looking at stats from a single tournament is pointless when we have head to head stats to look at. That is one series, not even one tournament. IdrA once 2-0'ed MC. Showing stats from a single series is pointless when we have actual head to head stats to look at.
nvm they played a bo5, but idra most likely is the better ZvZ player as sheth hasn't really had an opportunity to practice against really good korean zergs for long enough, whereas idra has lost to sen and zenio which would prove to be a pretty big learning experience for him.
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@People talking about IdrA's ZvZ statistics:
IdrA played Sen and Zenio for the first time when his mind was behind the metagame. Sen and Zenio played on the Korean ladder, so they knew the current best trends and simply outplayed him because of that. I'm sure IdrA fixed that. On his second play vs Zenio, Zenio cheesed him once and hit a risky timing while IdrA made a game ending mistake at the same time. I cannot recall IdrA losing any other ZvZ recently. So, the statistics on IdrA's ZvZ are kind of misleading.
On July 02 2011 08:46 Starlos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 08:41 Mafs wrote:
Because TL doesnt like imbalance discussions and neither do I most the time. And when I do I go to BNET forums because the people there give better feedback about imbalance. Defending Idra is fine but if it is based on false assumptions then is is wrong. I prefer the truth over what someone thinks. Are you a mod ? No you're not, so it's not your job to "punish" players who "cry about imbalance". If it pisses you so much, then maybe you're not at the right place, as IdrA like to talk about balance. This isn't the "let's discuss IdrA" thread, this is the "IdrA FANCLUB" thread.
It is pretty common knowledge that you shouldn't talk about imbalance anywhere in TL. The only way I could see imbalance being talked about in the fanclub would be when IdrA makes a significant statement on imbalance and people want to discuss what he just said. But bringing up balance in any other situation in the fanclub is probably against the rules...just look at all of the banned/warned people who complained about balance in this thread in the past.
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I hope IdrA will be going out on top of that group. It's definately not impossible, but not an easy task either. Looking for Sheth to take the 2nd place. Go zergs! ;D
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i miss grack streams : (.
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On July 02 2011 14:20 Yozki wrote:
Where is IdrA??
back in the states but busy apparently so no stream 
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On July 02 2011 09:12 Chargelot wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 09:00 BearChocolate wrote:
This is the IdrA fan club. Stop arguing please.
Did anyone see that MLG has posted the groups for MLG Anaheim? IdrA's group has iNcontroL, SjoW, Sheth, and a Korean. Doesn't look like the hardest group he's ever been in but Sheth will have been practicing in Korea for a while, iNcontroL seems to have rededicated himself to being less of a caster and more of a player and SjoW was one of the few to take a game off of MMA.
I think he can do well in the group though. Accordng to IdrA's NASL stats, Sheth will give him the hardest time. The irony of these stats hurts my head.
rofl, too funny
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sheth will give IdrA a hard time? No way in hell.
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On July 02 2011 14:52 Zeetee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2011 09:12 Chargelot wrote:On July 02 2011 09:00 BearChocolate wrote:
This is the IdrA fan club. Stop arguing please.
Did anyone see that MLG has posted the groups for MLG Anaheim? IdrA's group has iNcontroL, SjoW, Sheth, and a Korean. Doesn't look like the hardest group he's ever been in but Sheth will have been practicing in Korea for a while, iNcontroL seems to have rededicated himself to being less of a caster and more of a player and SjoW was one of the few to take a game off of MMA.
I think he can do well in the group though. Accordng to IdrA's NASL stats, Sheth will give him the hardest time. The irony of these stats hurts my head. rofl, too funny
sen and zenio and way better than cloud socke(ok maybe he has a chance) tyler drewbie painuser mana....
On July 02 2011 16:28 Jaxtyk wrote:
sheth will give IdrA a hard time? No way in hell.
last showmatch idra won 4:0 against sheth
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If i remember correctly it was Bo5, and IdrA won 3-0...and it was a charity showmatch so...
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