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bigjenk
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1543 Posts
May 13 2011 18:24 GMT
#10321
Kind of funny that tb makes these comments when he isn't a commentator towards the other end of the spectrum. It is like watching a hockey player commentate gymnastics with how little he knows.
Ignore my opinions I am bad
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
May 13 2011 18:26 GMT
#10322
i personally am not a fan of the exchange.

i am really liking the growth of sc2 in the west. with all the new tourneys poping up it would be sad to see top players like idra or whoever pack up and leave.

isleyofthenorth
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Austria894 Posts
May 13 2011 18:45 GMT
#10323
On May 14 2011 03:24 bigjenk wrote:
Kind of funny that tb makes these comments when he isn't a commentator towards the other end of the spectrum. It is like watching a hockey player commentate gymnastics with how little he knows.


total biscuit just has a good voice and a damn sexy haircut thats it
JeffJohnson
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany62 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 18:56:10
May 13 2011 18:48 GMT
#10324
On May 14 2011 03:18 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 02:12 Nagano wrote:
On May 13 2011 12:21 Euclid wrote:
[image loading]


Are they not disappointed in cruncher's trollbaiting of idra? Does complexity believe Cruncher really had no part in this? It takes two to tango, guys. While cruncher's approach is more conspicuous than Idra's, he's been trying really hard the past month or two to get a huge rise out of idra, from "" to stream sniping, inevitably resulting in an idra comment and ban.

"Badmannered"?, yes. "Uncalled for"? Really?


Just curious, does any1 actually know why Idra hates cruncher so much? How did it start? Does idra just hate his play style or something? I find it entertaining so I'm not complaining, but yea seems ridiculous if its just based on Idra disliking his play style.

It's also sad how much hate Cruncher gets here on TL just because of Idra. He's not actually that bad of a player,


Somebody who qualified for TSL and is playing in the NASL, like cruncher, cant be bad!
Afaik Idra hates him only cuz he played much cheese in TSL and beat Idra few times, no real reason
HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
May 13 2011 18:49 GMT
#10325
On May 14 2011 03:18 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 02:12 Nagano wrote:
On May 13 2011 12:21 Euclid wrote:
[image loading]


Are they not disappointed in cruncher's trollbaiting of idra? Does complexity believe Cruncher really had no part in this? It takes two to tango, guys. While cruncher's approach is more conspicuous than Idra's, he's been trying really hard the past month or two to get a huge rise out of idra, from "" to stream sniping, inevitably resulting in an idra comment and ban.

"Badmannered"?, yes. "Uncalled for"? Really?


Just curious, does any1 actually know why Idra hates cruncher so much? How did it start? Does idra just hate his play style or something? I find it entertaining so I'm not complaining, but yea seems ridiculous if its just based on Idra disliking his play style.

It's also sad how much hate Cruncher gets here on TL just because of Idra. He's not actually that bad of a player, and if it wasn't for Idra fanboyism I think a lot more people would be acknowledging that. Lol I find idra hilarious and he's my favorite zerg outside korea atm, but its odd how so many people adhere to what he says oO

You want to know why IdrA hates CrunCher? Here's why:

If it were not so, I would have told you.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
May 13 2011 18:51 GMT
#10326
Cruncher always BMs him on ladder, actually.
JeffJohnson
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany62 Posts
May 13 2011 18:56 GMT
#10327
On May 14 2011 03:51 Jinsho wrote:
Cruncher always BMs him on ladder, actually.


Do u have an example?
JeffJohnson
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany62 Posts
May 13 2011 18:58 GMT
#10328
On May 14 2011 03:49 HULKAMANIA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 03:18 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On May 14 2011 02:12 Nagano wrote:
On May 13 2011 12:21 Euclid wrote:
[image loading]


Are they not disappointed in cruncher's trollbaiting of idra? Does complexity believe Cruncher really had no part in this? It takes two to tango, guys. While cruncher's approach is more conspicuous than Idra's, he's been trying really hard the past month or two to get a huge rise out of idra, from "" to stream sniping, inevitably resulting in an idra comment and ban.

"Badmannered"?, yes. "Uncalled for"? Really?


Just curious, does any1 actually know why Idra hates cruncher so much? How did it start? Does idra just hate his play style or something? I find it entertaining so I'm not complaining, but yea seems ridiculous if its just based on Idra disliking his play style.

It's also sad how much hate Cruncher gets here on TL just because of Idra. He's not actually that bad of a player, and if it wasn't for Idra fanboyism I think a lot more people would be acknowledging that. Lol I find idra hilarious and he's my favorite zerg outside korea atm, but its odd how so many people adhere to what he says oO

You want to know why IdrA hates CrunCher? Here's why:



that was an great reply from cruncher without offense to Idras interview, where he said that it will be an walkover...
Leavzou
Profile Joined January 2011
France156 Posts
May 13 2011 18:59 GMT
#10329
On May 14 2011 03:58 JeffJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 03:49 HULKAMANIA wrote:
On May 14 2011 03:18 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On May 14 2011 02:12 Nagano wrote:
On May 13 2011 12:21 Euclid wrote:
[image loading]


Are they not disappointed in cruncher's trollbaiting of idra? Does complexity believe Cruncher really had no part in this? It takes two to tango, guys. While cruncher's approach is more conspicuous than Idra's, he's been trying really hard the past month or two to get a huge rise out of idra, from "" to stream sniping, inevitably resulting in an idra comment and ban.

"Badmannered"?, yes. "Uncalled for"? Really?


Just curious, does any1 actually know why Idra hates cruncher so much? How did it start? Does idra just hate his play style or something? I find it entertaining so I'm not complaining, but yea seems ridiculous if its just based on Idra disliking his play style.

It's also sad how much hate Cruncher gets here on TL just because of Idra. He's not actually that bad of a player, and if it wasn't for Idra fanboyism I think a lot more people would be acknowledging that. Lol I find idra hilarious and he's my favorite zerg outside korea atm, but its odd how so many people adhere to what he says oO

You want to know why IdrA hates CrunCher? Here's why:



that was an great reply from cruncher without offense to Idras interview, where he said that it will be an walkover...


The smiley should have been a good response to the idra statement if he did not cheese idra.
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
May 13 2011 19:00 GMT
#10330
Don't think IdrA hates Cruncher, he just doesn't think he's very good and only accomplishes stuff by abusing colossus or cheesing. I think the hate is quite onesided.
JeffJohnson
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany62 Posts
May 13 2011 19:01 GMT
#10331
On May 14 2011 03:59 Leavzou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 03:58 JeffJohnson wrote:
On May 14 2011 03:49 HULKAMANIA wrote:
On May 14 2011 03:18 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On May 14 2011 02:12 Nagano wrote:
On May 13 2011 12:21 Euclid wrote:
[image loading]


Are they not disappointed in cruncher's trollbaiting of idra? Does complexity believe Cruncher really had no part in this? It takes two to tango, guys. While cruncher's approach is more conspicuous than Idra's, he's been trying really hard the past month or two to get a huge rise out of idra, from "" to stream sniping, inevitably resulting in an idra comment and ban.

"Badmannered"?, yes. "Uncalled for"? Really?


Just curious, does any1 actually know why Idra hates cruncher so much? How did it start? Does idra just hate his play style or something? I find it entertaining so I'm not complaining, but yea seems ridiculous if its just based on Idra disliking his play style.

It's also sad how much hate Cruncher gets here on TL just because of Idra. He's not actually that bad of a player, and if it wasn't for Idra fanboyism I think a lot more people would be acknowledging that. Lol I find idra hilarious and he's my favorite zerg outside korea atm, but its odd how so many people adhere to what he says oO

You want to know why IdrA hates CrunCher? Here's why:



that was an great reply from cruncher without offense to Idras interview, where he said that it will be an walkover...


The smiley should have been a good response to the idra statement if he did not cheese idra.


Cheese is a normal strategy in the game :-) his playstyle didnt change anything at the response
Leach
Profile Joined December 2010
United States536 Posts
May 13 2011 19:01 GMT
#10332
Man I wished IdrA would commentate the NASL forever... For the first time I had the feeling that I was not only entertained but actually learned something about Starcraft!
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
May 13 2011 19:06 GMT
#10333
On May 14 2011 03:26 integrity wrote:
i personally am not a fan of the exchange.

i am really liking the growth of sc2 in the west. with all the new tourneys poping up it would be sad to see top players like idra or whoever pack up and leave.



Yeah good point, however I think bridging the "us and them" -gap would do wonders for the longterm success of sc2. Some of the players ending up going to korea would (inevitably) raise the bars for what is expected of the foreign scene and so on. Generally I don't like these artificial ways of accomplishing things though, trying to force more foreigners into gsl isn't the best way of going about it.
HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
May 13 2011 19:06 GMT
#10334
On May 14 2011 03:58 JeffJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 03:49 HULKAMANIA wrote:
On May 14 2011 03:18 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On May 14 2011 02:12 Nagano wrote:
On May 13 2011 12:21 Euclid wrote:
[image loading]


Are they not disappointed in cruncher's trollbaiting of idra? Does complexity believe Cruncher really had no part in this? It takes two to tango, guys. While cruncher's approach is more conspicuous than Idra's, he's been trying really hard the past month or two to get a huge rise out of idra, from "" to stream sniping, inevitably resulting in an idra comment and ban.

"Badmannered"?, yes. "Uncalled for"? Really?


Just curious, does any1 actually know why Idra hates cruncher so much? How did it start? Does idra just hate his play style or something? I find it entertaining so I'm not complaining, but yea seems ridiculous if its just based on Idra disliking his play style.

It's also sad how much hate Cruncher gets here on TL just because of Idra. He's not actually that bad of a player, and if it wasn't for Idra fanboyism I think a lot more people would be acknowledging that. Lol I find idra hilarious and he's my favorite zerg outside korea atm, but its odd how so many people adhere to what he says oO

You want to know why IdrA hates CrunCher? Here's why:



that was an great reply from cruncher without offense to Idras interview, where he said that it will be an walkover...

You're defending CrunCher as if I was attacking him, but I wasn't. I was just spitting knowledge about where the CrunCher vs. IdrA beef really kicked off.

Anyway, I can see that you fancy yourself something of a CrunCher apologist. That's cool. Everyone has to have a hobby!
If it were not so, I would have told you.
ViperVwV
Profile Joined March 2011
United States15 Posts
May 13 2011 19:07 GMT
#10335
On May 14 2011 03:56 JeffJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 03:51 Jinsho wrote:
Cruncher always BMs him on ladder, actually.


Do u have an example?



At least twice on the stream, I've seen IdrA beat cruncher, but cruncher doesn't leave the game. IdrA has to kill everything to get the win. Thats pretty BM by itself, but the whole time cruncher talks shit.
Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 19:12:58
May 13 2011 19:11 GMT
#10336
lol @Idra biting his lips to prevent himself from bursting in laughters earing White-Ra's interview...

EDIT :

On May 14 2011 04:07 ViperVwV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 03:56 JeffJohnson wrote:
On May 14 2011 03:51 Jinsho wrote:
Cruncher always BMs him on ladder, actually.


Do u have an example?



At least twice on the stream, I've seen IdrA beat cruncher, but cruncher doesn't leave the game. IdrA has to kill everything to get the win. Thats pretty BM by itself, but the whole time cruncher talks shit.

I can confirm this as a fact, Cruncher is very immature each time he faces Idra on ladder ("Hello my old friend !" and various allins to try to get some tears from him).
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OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
May 13 2011 19:15 GMT
#10337
On May 14 2011 04:11 Ahelvin wrote:
lol @Idra biting his lips to prevent himself from bursting in laughters earing White-Ra's interview...

EDIT :

Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 04:07 ViperVwV wrote:
On May 14 2011 03:56 JeffJohnson wrote:
On May 14 2011 03:51 Jinsho wrote:
Cruncher always BMs him on ladder, actually.


Do u have an example?



At least twice on the stream, I've seen IdrA beat cruncher, but cruncher doesn't leave the game. IdrA has to kill everything to get the win. Thats pretty BM by itself, but the whole time cruncher talks shit.

I can confirm this as a fact, Cruncher is very immature each time he faces Idra on ladder ("Hello my old friend !" and various allins to try to get some tears from him).


Can't really say I blame him, I mean "I consider this match a walkover" is quite arrogant and would make most serious players annoyed.
FinBenton
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland870 Posts
May 13 2011 19:16 GMT
#10338
On May 14 2011 04:11 Ahelvin wrote:
lol @Idra biting his lips to prevent himself from bursting in laughters earing White-Ra's interview...

.

Yeah I was laughing pretty hard as I couldnt understand a half what RA said but thats ok :D
Dawski
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada435 Posts
May 13 2011 19:36 GMT
#10339
On May 14 2011 04:15 OrchidThief wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 04:11 Ahelvin wrote:
lol @Idra biting his lips to prevent himself from bursting in laughters earing White-Ra's interview...

EDIT :

On May 14 2011 04:07 ViperVwV wrote:
On May 14 2011 03:56 JeffJohnson wrote:
On May 14 2011 03:51 Jinsho wrote:
Cruncher always BMs him on ladder, actually.


Do u have an example?



At least twice on the stream, I've seen IdrA beat cruncher, but cruncher doesn't leave the game. IdrA has to kill everything to get the win. Thats pretty BM by itself, but the whole time cruncher talks shit.

I can confirm this as a fact, Cruncher is very immature each time he faces Idra on ladder ("Hello my old friend !" and various allins to try to get some tears from him).


Can't really say I blame him, I mean "I consider this match a walkover" is quite arrogant and would make most serious players annoyed.


id like to read the thread title and remind yourself that this is IdrAs fanclub, though you prolly wont get moderated due to thousands of posts in here id remember the fact that insulting the player in his own fan club does merrit a temp ban.

basically this is a place where we can share the same view of idrAs and be complete fan boys and others cant do anything about it :D
do you REALLY want additional pylons?
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 19:39:58
May 13 2011 19:37 GMT
#10340
On May 14 2011 04:15 OrchidThief wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 04:11 Ahelvin wrote:
lol @Idra biting his lips to prevent himself from bursting in laughters earing White-Ra's interview...

EDIT :

On May 14 2011 04:07 ViperVwV wrote:
On May 14 2011 03:56 JeffJohnson wrote:
On May 14 2011 03:51 Jinsho wrote:
Cruncher always BMs him on ladder, actually.


Do u have an example?



At least twice on the stream, I've seen IdrA beat cruncher, but cruncher doesn't leave the game. IdrA has to kill everything to get the win. Thats pretty BM by itself, but the whole time cruncher talks shit.

I can confirm this as a fact, Cruncher is very immature each time he faces Idra on ladder ("Hello my old friend !" and various allins to try to get some tears from him).


Can't really say I blame him, I mean "I consider this match a walkover" is quite arrogant and would make most serious players annoyed.


Yes and no. Defeating Idra was the best response he could have ever hoped for. If he wanted to be BM, he could have done it on ladder or in the forums or in a post-match interview, like Idra himself usually would. Doing it in a broadcasted game was BM on a different level, not to mention that it is something illegal in a lot of major leagues.

I'm assuming that their history doesn't start with Idra's "I consider the match a walkover" and Cruncher's in-game BM during TSL - they have probably exchanged pleasentries on ladder before that. It's all blown way out of proportion, as it usually is. Complexity's "disappointment" is hypocritical but they are expected to defend their player, even when he is BM. Similarly, no one expects Liquid to publicly say anything negative about Huk.

Still, I'm a bit disappointed by the fact that Idra used his role as a commentator to express his feelings in such a way. He is usually really professional when necessary and there are enough opportunities for him to make fun of Cruncher.. It sounded almost as if NASL wanted some controversy.

On May 14 2011 04:36 Dawski wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2011 04:15 OrchidThief wrote:
On May 14 2011 04:11 Ahelvin wrote:
lol @Idra biting his lips to prevent himself from bursting in laughters earing White-Ra's interview...

EDIT :

On May 14 2011 04:07 ViperVwV wrote:
On May 14 2011 03:56 JeffJohnson wrote:
On May 14 2011 03:51 Jinsho wrote:
Cruncher always BMs him on ladder, actually.


Do u have an example?



At least twice on the stream, I've seen IdrA beat cruncher, but cruncher doesn't leave the game. IdrA has to kill everything to get the win. Thats pretty BM by itself, but the whole time cruncher talks shit.

I can confirm this as a fact, Cruncher is very immature each time he faces Idra on ladder ("Hello my old friend !" and various allins to try to get some tears from him).


Can't really say I blame him, I mean "I consider this match a walkover" is quite arrogant and would make most serious players annoyed.


id like to read the thread title and remind yourself that this is IdrAs fanclub, though you prolly wont get moderated due to thousands of posts in here id remember the fact that insulting the player in his own fan club does merrit a temp ban.

basically this is a place where we can share the same view of idrAs and be complete fan boys and others cant do anything about it :D


Eh... what? There was no insult and nothing worth of even a warning, let alone a ban.
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