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marvin.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States469 Posts
May 05 2011 22:00 GMT
#9721
On May 06 2011 06:58 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 06:48 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:45 starfish wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:41 travis wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:39 starfish wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:35 travis wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:30 starfish wrote:
travis, do you really think he'll read the comments while playing the game? that makes no sense at all.


maybe you should read my post again -.-

anyways, my point is, for top and near top players the goal is to improve. you won't really find the people that play(and have a shot at winning) live tournaments maphacking or stream cheating, unless it's in an online tournament. the reason is, they want to actually spend their time trying to improve.

now maybe he is actually juvenile enough that there was some exception to this because it was idra he was playing. but I am not going to jump to that conclusion just because people say they saw him in idra's stream.


also, a question about justin.tv. to be listed under viewers in the chat, do you have to open the chat window? and if you are already signed in to your own justin.tv stream, do you have to sign into it again to participate in someone else's chat?

travis, have you actually read the interview from cruncher? have you actually watched the stream of idra where cruncher BMs constantly? do you really think a person that mock'd this one specific person over and over would like to lose to that specific person? and yes, you can check to viewer list in chat.


except that with this logic it could just as easily be idra watching cruncher's stream. I doubt cruncher cares *that* much about losing. it's probably more likely he just wants to piss off idra and his fans.


yeah thats what i mean, except its fucked up to see someone go that low. that's same as cheating in ladder. this is one of the reason why cruncher has lots of haters, things he does is just pathetic.


Not that I condone cheating, but you speak about ladder as if it was actually prestigious or something. Ladder games don't really matter, Cruncher probably just wanted to get a good laugh about it. It's not like Idra hasnt spoken bad about Cruncher to deserve this



On May 06 2011 06:48 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:46 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:41 travis wrote: it's probably more likely he just wants to piss off idra and his fans.


And Idra's never done that before, right?



Err, players flaming eachother is okay, that stuff happens.. Looking at a stream of the oppenent your playing is both really pathetic but also cheating. Stuff like this gets you banned from tournaments


Obviously it was wrong. But again, it's ladder - and come on, everyone knows how easily idra is pissed off. Do you think Cruncher really cheated to win, or cheated to get a good laugh?

Im curious as to if you think "Cheating for a good laugh" actually makes it alright or something


I like how everyone in this thread is twisting my words.
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
May 05 2011 22:01 GMT
#9722
When you ladder, you expect to be in a 1v1 with someone just as blind as you are with FOV. I think any type of cheating or maphack or even watching/hearing IdrA streaming while he is trying to inform people about the game is stupid. I hope this doesn't happen again because it doesn't take a genius to listen to what IdrA is saying or making and build a good timing around that.
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Shaetan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1175 Posts
May 05 2011 22:01 GMT
#9723
Idra isn't going to Super Tournament.
My Casts: www.youtube.com/Shaetan
Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
May 05 2011 22:01 GMT
#9724
On May 06 2011 06:45 oman573 wrote:
IdrA please unban me on Justin.tv i can't remember what i was banned for but can you please do it. I love you idrA and now that you've started talking I really need to ask you questions on that. My justin.tv name is oman573

If you have a question you can try to post it at his twitter or post it on his stream's thread and not his fanclub
(。◕ ω ◕。) Beer Time !!!! (。◕ ω ◕。)
marvin.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States469 Posts
May 05 2011 22:01 GMT
#9725
On May 06 2011 06:59 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 06:56 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:53 Denzil wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:48 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:45 starfish wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:41 travis wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:39 starfish wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:35 travis wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:30 starfish wrote:
travis, do you really think he'll read the comments while playing the game? that makes no sense at all.


maybe you should read my post again -.-

anyways, my point is, for top and near top players the goal is to improve. you won't really find the people that play(and have a shot at winning) live tournaments maphacking or stream cheating, unless it's in an online tournament. the reason is, they want to actually spend their time trying to improve.

now maybe he is actually juvenile enough that there was some exception to this because it was idra he was playing. but I am not going to jump to that conclusion just because people say they saw him in idra's stream.


also, a question about justin.tv. to be listed under viewers in the chat, do you have to open the chat window? and if you are already signed in to your own justin.tv stream, do you have to sign into it again to participate in someone else's chat?

travis, have you actually read the interview from cruncher? have you actually watched the stream of idra where cruncher BMs constantly? do you really think a person that mock'd this one specific person over and over would like to lose to that specific person? and yes, you can check to viewer list in chat.


except that with this logic it could just as easily be idra watching cruncher's stream. I doubt cruncher cares *that* much about losing. it's probably more likely he just wants to piss off idra and his fans.


yeah thats what i mean, except its fucked up to see someone go that low. that's same as cheating in ladder. this is one of the reason why cruncher has lots of haters, things he does is just pathetic.


Not that I condone cheating, but you speak about ladder as if it was actually prestigious or something. Ladder games don't really matter, Cruncher probably just wanted to get a good laugh about it. It's not like Idra hasnt spoken bad about Cruncher to deserve this



On May 06 2011 06:48 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:46 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:41 travis wrote: it's probably more likely he just wants to piss off idra and his fans.


And Idra's never done that before, right?



Err, players flaming eachother is okay, that stuff happens.. Looking at a stream of the oppenent your playing is both really pathetic but also cheating. Stuff like this gets you banned from tournaments


Obviously it was wrong. But again, it's ladder - and come on, everyone knows how easily idra is pissed off. Do you think Cruncher really cheated to win, or cheated to get a good laugh?


You're acting as if when I play football with my Sunday team I should be able to handball it whenever I choose because it's not the Premier League and I want "a good laugh".


How is that the slightest bit funny? And if you did it once, yeah it wouldn't be that big of a deal.



My Statistics test only makes up 3% of my final grade, so should I be able to cheat on that, I mean it's not that significant?

The point is stupid, Cruncher shouldn't have done it. I don't think anyone is asking for him to be locked from battlenet or something, but at the very least he should acknowledge it and explain/apologize.


Except that this ladder game has no effect on... well... anything except ladder rank. Which really means nothing at this point. Whereas your 3% means something towards your final grade.
loveeholicce
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Korea (South)785 Posts
May 05 2011 22:02 GMT
#9726
From idras Q&A on his stream just now

brood war is definitely a better game. more balanced, better design, more fair

<3 <3
상처받은 그대에 가슴에 사랑을 심어줄께요♥
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
May 05 2011 22:03 GMT
#9727
On May 06 2011 07:01 Shaetan wrote:
Idra isn't going to Super Tournament.


Did he say that?

I'm sad already
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
marvin.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States469 Posts
May 05 2011 22:03 GMT
#9728
On May 06 2011 07:01 Demonace34 wrote:
When you ladder, you expect to be in a 1v1 with someone just as blind as you are with FOV. I think any type of cheating or maphack or even watching/hearing IdrA streaming while he is trying to inform people about the game is stupid. I hope this doesn't happen again because it doesn't take a genius to listen to what IdrA is saying or making and build a good timing around that.


I don't think anyone is arguing against that - it sucks that people kept watching whitera's stream while playing so he stopped talking about his special tactics during the game.
Mickey
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2606 Posts
May 05 2011 22:03 GMT
#9729
He needs to stop abusing commercials. He's running one every two minutes.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
May 05 2011 22:04 GMT
#9730
On May 06 2011 06:56 marvin. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 06:53 Denzil wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:48 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:45 starfish wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:41 travis wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:39 starfish wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:35 travis wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:30 starfish wrote:
travis, do you really think he'll read the comments while playing the game? that makes no sense at all.


maybe you should read my post again -.-

anyways, my point is, for top and near top players the goal is to improve. you won't really find the people that play(and have a shot at winning) live tournaments maphacking or stream cheating, unless it's in an online tournament. the reason is, they want to actually spend their time trying to improve.

now maybe he is actually juvenile enough that there was some exception to this because it was idra he was playing. but I am not going to jump to that conclusion just because people say they saw him in idra's stream.


also, a question about justin.tv. to be listed under viewers in the chat, do you have to open the chat window? and if you are already signed in to your own justin.tv stream, do you have to sign into it again to participate in someone else's chat?

travis, have you actually read the interview from cruncher? have you actually watched the stream of idra where cruncher BMs constantly? do you really think a person that mock'd this one specific person over and over would like to lose to that specific person? and yes, you can check to viewer list in chat.


except that with this logic it could just as easily be idra watching cruncher's stream. I doubt cruncher cares *that* much about losing. it's probably more likely he just wants to piss off idra and his fans.


yeah thats what i mean, except its fucked up to see someone go that low. that's same as cheating in ladder. this is one of the reason why cruncher has lots of haters, things he does is just pathetic.


Not that I condone cheating, but you speak about ladder as if it was actually prestigious or something. Ladder games don't really matter, Cruncher probably just wanted to get a good laugh about it. It's not like Idra hasnt spoken bad about Cruncher to deserve this



On May 06 2011 06:48 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:46 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:41 travis wrote: it's probably more likely he just wants to piss off idra and his fans.


And Idra's never done that before, right?



Err, players flaming eachother is okay, that stuff happens.. Looking at a stream of the oppenent your playing is both really pathetic but also cheating. Stuff like this gets you banned from tournaments


Obviously it was wrong. But again, it's ladder - and come on, everyone knows how easily idra is pissed off. Do you think Cruncher really cheated to win, or cheated to get a good laugh?


You're acting as if when I play football with my Sunday team I should be able to handball it whenever I choose because it's not the Premier League and I want "a good laugh".


How is that the slightest bit funny? And if you did it once, yeah it wouldn't be that big of a deal.


How is streamwatching Idra to precisly counter everything he does funny?
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Incursus
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States415 Posts
May 05 2011 22:04 GMT
#9731
Wouldn't you run a bunch of commercials when you're making a fortune off of em?
Don't be surprised when a crack in the ice...appears under your feet.
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
May 05 2011 22:05 GMT
#9732
On May 06 2011 07:01 marvin. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 06:59 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:56 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:53 Denzil wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:48 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:45 starfish wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:41 travis wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:39 starfish wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:35 travis wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:30 starfish wrote:
travis, do you really think he'll read the comments while playing the game? that makes no sense at all.


maybe you should read my post again -.-

anyways, my point is, for top and near top players the goal is to improve. you won't really find the people that play(and have a shot at winning) live tournaments maphacking or stream cheating, unless it's in an online tournament. the reason is, they want to actually spend their time trying to improve.

now maybe he is actually juvenile enough that there was some exception to this because it was idra he was playing. but I am not going to jump to that conclusion just because people say they saw him in idra's stream.


also, a question about justin.tv. to be listed under viewers in the chat, do you have to open the chat window? and if you are already signed in to your own justin.tv stream, do you have to sign into it again to participate in someone else's chat?

travis, have you actually read the interview from cruncher? have you actually watched the stream of idra where cruncher BMs constantly? do you really think a person that mock'd this one specific person over and over would like to lose to that specific person? and yes, you can check to viewer list in chat.


except that with this logic it could just as easily be idra watching cruncher's stream. I doubt cruncher cares *that* much about losing. it's probably more likely he just wants to piss off idra and his fans.


yeah thats what i mean, except its fucked up to see someone go that low. that's same as cheating in ladder. this is one of the reason why cruncher has lots of haters, things he does is just pathetic.


Not that I condone cheating, but you speak about ladder as if it was actually prestigious or something. Ladder games don't really matter, Cruncher probably just wanted to get a good laugh about it. It's not like Idra hasnt spoken bad about Cruncher to deserve this



On May 06 2011 06:48 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:46 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:41 travis wrote: it's probably more likely he just wants to piss off idra and his fans.


And Idra's never done that before, right?



Err, players flaming eachother is okay, that stuff happens.. Looking at a stream of the oppenent your playing is both really pathetic but also cheating. Stuff like this gets you banned from tournaments


Obviously it was wrong. But again, it's ladder - and come on, everyone knows how easily idra is pissed off. Do you think Cruncher really cheated to win, or cheated to get a good laugh?


You're acting as if when I play football with my Sunday team I should be able to handball it whenever I choose because it's not the Premier League and I want "a good laugh".


How is that the slightest bit funny? And if you did it once, yeah it wouldn't be that big of a deal.



My Statistics test only makes up 3% of my final grade, so should I be able to cheat on that, I mean it's not that significant?

The point is stupid, Cruncher shouldn't have done it. I don't think anyone is asking for him to be locked from battlenet or something, but at the very least he should acknowledge it and explain/apologize.


Except that this ladder game has no effect on... well... anything except ladder rank. Which really means nothing at this point. Whereas your 3% means something towards your final grade.


Ladder is for practice, IdrA was commentating on his stream trying to help people learn more about SC2. CrunCher snipes him and then stream cheats for a lulz win against one of the best players in the world. Would you like to live in a world where everyone stream cheats for a laugh?
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marvin.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States469 Posts
May 05 2011 22:06 GMT
#9733
On May 06 2011 07:04 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 06:56 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:53 Denzil wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:48 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:45 starfish wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:41 travis wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:39 starfish wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:35 travis wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:30 starfish wrote:
travis, do you really think he'll read the comments while playing the game? that makes no sense at all.


maybe you should read my post again -.-

anyways, my point is, for top and near top players the goal is to improve. you won't really find the people that play(and have a shot at winning) live tournaments maphacking or stream cheating, unless it's in an online tournament. the reason is, they want to actually spend their time trying to improve.

now maybe he is actually juvenile enough that there was some exception to this because it was idra he was playing. but I am not going to jump to that conclusion just because people say they saw him in idra's stream.


also, a question about justin.tv. to be listed under viewers in the chat, do you have to open the chat window? and if you are already signed in to your own justin.tv stream, do you have to sign into it again to participate in someone else's chat?

travis, have you actually read the interview from cruncher? have you actually watched the stream of idra where cruncher BMs constantly? do you really think a person that mock'd this one specific person over and over would like to lose to that specific person? and yes, you can check to viewer list in chat.


except that with this logic it could just as easily be idra watching cruncher's stream. I doubt cruncher cares *that* much about losing. it's probably more likely he just wants to piss off idra and his fans.


yeah thats what i mean, except its fucked up to see someone go that low. that's same as cheating in ladder. this is one of the reason why cruncher has lots of haters, things he does is just pathetic.


Not that I condone cheating, but you speak about ladder as if it was actually prestigious or something. Ladder games don't really matter, Cruncher probably just wanted to get a good laugh about it. It's not like Idra hasnt spoken bad about Cruncher to deserve this



On May 06 2011 06:48 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:46 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:41 travis wrote: it's probably more likely he just wants to piss off idra and his fans.


And Idra's never done that before, right?



Err, players flaming eachother is okay, that stuff happens.. Looking at a stream of the oppenent your playing is both really pathetic but also cheating. Stuff like this gets you banned from tournaments


Obviously it was wrong. But again, it's ladder - and come on, everyone knows how easily idra is pissed off. Do you think Cruncher really cheated to win, or cheated to get a good laugh?


You're acting as if when I play football with my Sunday team I should be able to handball it whenever I choose because it's not the Premier League and I want "a good laugh".


How is that the slightest bit funny? And if you did it once, yeah it wouldn't be that big of a deal.


How is streamwatching Idra to precisly counter everything he does funny?


Erm, maybe because Idra said:

Q: Are you confident you can beat him? Do you expect him to do any risky strategies against you?

Yes, he's going to 4 gate all-in both games unless he decides to be clever and make voidrays or DTs.

Which made the series a lot more entertaining to watch, and started some bad blood between Idra and Cruncher. And because Idra is known for being easily pissed off? Cheating aside, to knowingly be able to piss off someone you know doesn't seem entertaining at all? Maybe I'm just a terrible, terrible person then.
Airship
Profile Joined August 2010
United States465 Posts
May 05 2011 22:06 GMT
#9734
On May 06 2011 06:22 travis wrote:
I really doubt he would stream cheat... what would be the purpose of that for him exactly? He is a competitive, near top-tier player. I'd imagine he plays to win competitions or to improve at the game.


Well, he did, so...
Newtonz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States141 Posts
May 05 2011 22:07 GMT
#9735
On May 06 2011 07:03 Mickey wrote:
He needs to stop abusing commercials. He's running one every two minutes.



And his viewer count hasn't dropped at all, what a baller.
enliveee
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom52 Posts
May 05 2011 22:07 GMT
#9736
On May 06 2011 07:03 Mickey wrote:
He needs to stop abusing commercials. He's running one every two minutes.

Gotta agree with that, I don't mind him doing them more frequently in the Q&A, but do it every 5 minutes at the least.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
May 05 2011 22:08 GMT
#9737
On May 06 2011 07:06 marvin. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2011 07:04 Denzil wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:56 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:53 Denzil wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:48 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:45 starfish wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:41 travis wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:39 starfish wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:35 travis wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:30 starfish wrote:
travis, do you really think he'll read the comments while playing the game? that makes no sense at all.


maybe you should read my post again -.-

anyways, my point is, for top and near top players the goal is to improve. you won't really find the people that play(and have a shot at winning) live tournaments maphacking or stream cheating, unless it's in an online tournament. the reason is, they want to actually spend their time trying to improve.

now maybe he is actually juvenile enough that there was some exception to this because it was idra he was playing. but I am not going to jump to that conclusion just because people say they saw him in idra's stream.


also, a question about justin.tv. to be listed under viewers in the chat, do you have to open the chat window? and if you are already signed in to your own justin.tv stream, do you have to sign into it again to participate in someone else's chat?

travis, have you actually read the interview from cruncher? have you actually watched the stream of idra where cruncher BMs constantly? do you really think a person that mock'd this one specific person over and over would like to lose to that specific person? and yes, you can check to viewer list in chat.


except that with this logic it could just as easily be idra watching cruncher's stream. I doubt cruncher cares *that* much about losing. it's probably more likely he just wants to piss off idra and his fans.


yeah thats what i mean, except its fucked up to see someone go that low. that's same as cheating in ladder. this is one of the reason why cruncher has lots of haters, things he does is just pathetic.


Not that I condone cheating, but you speak about ladder as if it was actually prestigious or something. Ladder games don't really matter, Cruncher probably just wanted to get a good laugh about it. It's not like Idra hasnt spoken bad about Cruncher to deserve this



On May 06 2011 06:48 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:46 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:41 travis wrote: it's probably more likely he just wants to piss off idra and his fans.


And Idra's never done that before, right?



Err, players flaming eachother is okay, that stuff happens.. Looking at a stream of the oppenent your playing is both really pathetic but also cheating. Stuff like this gets you banned from tournaments


Obviously it was wrong. But again, it's ladder - and come on, everyone knows how easily idra is pissed off. Do you think Cruncher really cheated to win, or cheated to get a good laugh?


You're acting as if when I play football with my Sunday team I should be able to handball it whenever I choose because it's not the Premier League and I want "a good laugh".


How is that the slightest bit funny? And if you did it once, yeah it wouldn't be that big of a deal.


How is streamwatching Idra to precisly counter everything he does funny?


Erm, maybe because Idra said:

Q: Are you confident you can beat him? Do you expect him to do any risky strategies against you?

Yes, he's going to 4 gate all-in both games unless he decides to be clever and make voidrays or DTs.

Which made the series a lot more entertaining to watch, and started some bad blood between Idra and Cruncher. And because Idra is known for being easily pissed off? Cheating aside, to knowingly be able to piss off someone you know doesn't seem entertaining at all? Maybe I'm just a terrible, terrible person then.


No you're attempting to justify cheating with horrible reasoning.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
marvin.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States469 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 22:12:16
May 05 2011 22:08 GMT
#9738
On May 06 2011 07:05 Demonace34 wrote:
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On May 06 2011 07:01 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:59 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:56 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:53 Denzil wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:48 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:45 starfish wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:41 travis wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:39 starfish wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:35 travis wrote:
[quote]

maybe you should read my post again -.-

anyways, my point is, for top and near top players the goal is to improve. you won't really find the people that play(and have a shot at winning) live tournaments maphacking or stream cheating, unless it's in an online tournament. the reason is, they want to actually spend their time trying to improve.

now maybe he is actually juvenile enough that there was some exception to this because it was idra he was playing. but I am not going to jump to that conclusion just because people say they saw him in idra's stream.


also, a question about justin.tv. to be listed under viewers in the chat, do you have to open the chat window? and if you are already signed in to your own justin.tv stream, do you have to sign into it again to participate in someone else's chat?

travis, have you actually read the interview from cruncher? have you actually watched the stream of idra where cruncher BMs constantly? do you really think a person that mock'd this one specific person over and over would like to lose to that specific person? and yes, you can check to viewer list in chat.


except that with this logic it could just as easily be idra watching cruncher's stream. I doubt cruncher cares *that* much about losing. it's probably more likely he just wants to piss off idra and his fans.


yeah thats what i mean, except its fucked up to see someone go that low. that's same as cheating in ladder. this is one of the reason why cruncher has lots of haters, things he does is just pathetic.


Not that I condone cheating, but you speak about ladder as if it was actually prestigious or something. Ladder games don't really matter, Cruncher probably just wanted to get a good laugh about it. It's not like Idra hasnt spoken bad about Cruncher to deserve this



On May 06 2011 06:48 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:46 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:41 travis wrote: it's probably more likely he just wants to piss off idra and his fans.


And Idra's never done that before, right?



Err, players flaming eachother is okay, that stuff happens.. Looking at a stream of the oppenent your playing is both really pathetic but also cheating. Stuff like this gets you banned from tournaments


Obviously it was wrong. But again, it's ladder - and come on, everyone knows how easily idra is pissed off. Do you think Cruncher really cheated to win, or cheated to get a good laugh?


You're acting as if when I play football with my Sunday team I should be able to handball it whenever I choose because it's not the Premier League and I want "a good laugh".


How is that the slightest bit funny? And if you did it once, yeah it wouldn't be that big of a deal.



My Statistics test only makes up 3% of my final grade, so should I be able to cheat on that, I mean it's not that significant?

The point is stupid, Cruncher shouldn't have done it. I don't think anyone is asking for him to be locked from battlenet or something, but at the very least he should acknowledge it and explain/apologize.


Except that this ladder game has no effect on... well... anything except ladder rank. Which really means nothing at this point. Whereas your 3% means something towards your final grade.


Ladder is for practice, IdrA was commentating on his stream trying to help people learn more about SC2. CrunCher snipes him and then stream cheats for a lulz win against one of the best players in the world. Would you like to live in a world where everyone stream cheats for a laugh?


Why does everyone keep creating theoretical situations? It's wrong. I said that like in my VERY FIRST actual post I made in this topic. I don't condone it. I was just commentating on the ridiculous response that came as a result of one ladder game. I'm pretty thankful for Idra commentating his games, it's pretty entertaining. But it's not like because I said "chill out guys it's not THAT big of a deal" everyone is going to start stream hacking. Although people kind of already are against the big names.

Edit - Combined posts - Sorry for double

On May 06 2011 07:08 Denzil wrote:
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On May 06 2011 07:06 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 07:04 Denzil wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:56 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:53 Denzil wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:48 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:45 starfish wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:41 travis wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:39 starfish wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:35 travis wrote:
[quote]

maybe you should read my post again -.-

anyways, my point is, for top and near top players the goal is to improve. you won't really find the people that play(and have a shot at winning) live tournaments maphacking or stream cheating, unless it's in an online tournament. the reason is, they want to actually spend their time trying to improve.

now maybe he is actually juvenile enough that there was some exception to this because it was idra he was playing. but I am not going to jump to that conclusion just because people say they saw him in idra's stream.


also, a question about justin.tv. to be listed under viewers in the chat, do you have to open the chat window? and if you are already signed in to your own justin.tv stream, do you have to sign into it again to participate in someone else's chat?

travis, have you actually read the interview from cruncher? have you actually watched the stream of idra where cruncher BMs constantly? do you really think a person that mock'd this one specific person over and over would like to lose to that specific person? and yes, you can check to viewer list in chat.


except that with this logic it could just as easily be idra watching cruncher's stream. I doubt cruncher cares *that* much about losing. it's probably more likely he just wants to piss off idra and his fans.


yeah thats what i mean, except its fucked up to see someone go that low. that's same as cheating in ladder. this is one of the reason why cruncher has lots of haters, things he does is just pathetic.


Not that I condone cheating, but you speak about ladder as if it was actually prestigious or something. Ladder games don't really matter, Cruncher probably just wanted to get a good laugh about it. It's not like Idra hasnt spoken bad about Cruncher to deserve this



On May 06 2011 06:48 1Eris1 wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:46 marvin. wrote:
On May 06 2011 06:41 travis wrote: it's probably more likely he just wants to piss off idra and his fans.


And Idra's never done that before, right?



Err, players flaming eachother is okay, that stuff happens.. Looking at a stream of the oppenent your playing is both really pathetic but also cheating. Stuff like this gets you banned from tournaments


Obviously it was wrong. But again, it's ladder - and come on, everyone knows how easily idra is pissed off. Do you think Cruncher really cheated to win, or cheated to get a good laugh?


You're acting as if when I play football with my Sunday team I should be able to handball it whenever I choose because it's not the Premier League and I want "a good laugh".


How is that the slightest bit funny? And if you did it once, yeah it wouldn't be that big of a deal.


How is streamwatching Idra to precisly counter everything he does funny?


Erm, maybe because Idra said:

Q: Are you confident you can beat him? Do you expect him to do any risky strategies against you?

Yes, he's going to 4 gate all-in both games unless he decides to be clever and make voidrays or DTs.

Which made the series a lot more entertaining to watch, and started some bad blood between Idra and Cruncher. And because Idra is known for being easily pissed off? Cheating aside, to knowingly be able to piss off someone you know doesn't seem entertaining at all? Maybe I'm just a terrible, terrible person then.


No you're attempting to justify cheating with horrible reasoning.


Err actually, I made my concessions where I think it was necessary and addressed what my opinion on the matter was. What sort of "reasoning" are you talking to? My "reasoning" that this isn't that big of a deal because it's ladder and it's one game? Someone actually brought up a decent point about sponsors and such. But really other than that it's just been "cheating is bad, no matter what." Or "why do you feel like cheating is okay for a laugh." Which actually if you've been reading my posts basically is just twisting my words.
marvin.
Profile Joined August 2010
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Last Edited: 2011-05-05 22:12:25
May 05 2011 22:11 GMT
#9739
delete, sorry
tamoorazizgheba
Profile Joined April 2011
United States11 Posts
May 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#9740
hahaha! huk got trolled so bad! lol! on idrA's stream!
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