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On February 26 2012 16:16 VashTS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 16:00 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:On February 26 2012 14:40 zefreak wrote:
I'm not the biggest Idra fan, but nobody can really make to big a deal of his performance in the MLG arena. Oz and Nestea are pretty tough competition and it was a stacked tournament. I bet if Idra had Huk's bracket draw he would have gotten much farther. I'm sorry, but if Idra can't beat guys like Oz, Alive, Taeja, Seth, Nestea (while he's slumping) how is he ever going to win any notable future tournaments. Don't get me wrong all those guys are very good, but the problem is that there are about 64 of them in the GSL and and a few top foreigners like Kas, Stephano, NaNiwa and so on. Competitive SC2 has trimmed the fat so to speak. Gone are the Bit by Bit, Makaprime, SlayersLegalMind...guys like them just couldn't keep up and are replaced by the likes of MMA, Leenock, DRG. The quality of players has improved drastically over the past year and more of them are attending foreign tournaments as evident by this current mlg, IEM championship, Iron Squid. I mean if you look at those player pools, do you really think Idra has a chance of making the finals. I'm not writing to insult Idra, I think he's very good but unfortunately just not good enough relative to the current competition. Simple: By not slumping.
He may be in a slump or he may not, only time will tell.
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On February 26 2012 16:36 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 16:16 VashTS wrote:On February 26 2012 16:00 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:On February 26 2012 14:40 zefreak wrote:
I'm not the biggest Idra fan, but nobody can really make to big a deal of his performance in the MLG arena. Oz and Nestea are pretty tough competition and it was a stacked tournament. I bet if Idra had Huk's bracket draw he would have gotten much farther. I'm sorry, but if Idra can't beat guys like Oz, Alive, Taeja, Seth, Nestea (while he's slumping) how is he ever going to win any notable future tournaments. Don't get me wrong all those guys are very good, but the problem is that there are about 64 of them in the GSL and and a few top foreigners like Kas, Stephano, NaNiwa and so on. Competitive SC2 has trimmed the fat so to speak. Gone are the Bit by Bit, Makaprime, SlayersLegalMind...guys like them just couldn't keep up and are replaced by the likes of MMA, Leenock, DRG. The quality of players has improved drastically over the past year and more of them are attending foreign tournaments as evident by this current mlg, IEM championship, Iron Squid. I mean if you look at those player pools, do you really think Idra has a chance of making the finals. I'm not writing to insult Idra, I think he's very good but unfortunately just not good enough relative to the current competition. Simple: By not slumping. He may be in a slump or he may not, only time will tell.
Actually, time already did tell. A year ago.
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On February 26 2012 17:15 VashTS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 16:36 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:On February 26 2012 16:16 VashTS wrote:On February 26 2012 16:00 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:On February 26 2012 14:40 zefreak wrote:
I'm not the biggest Idra fan, but nobody can really make to big a deal of his performance in the MLG arena. Oz and Nestea are pretty tough competition and it was a stacked tournament. I bet if Idra had Huk's bracket draw he would have gotten much farther. I'm sorry, but if Idra can't beat guys like Oz, Alive, Taeja, Seth, Nestea (while he's slumping) how is he ever going to win any notable future tournaments. Don't get me wrong all those guys are very good, but the problem is that there are about 64 of them in the GSL and and a few top foreigners like Kas, Stephano, NaNiwa and so on. Competitive SC2 has trimmed the fat so to speak. Gone are the Bit by Bit, Makaprime, SlayersLegalMind...guys like them just couldn't keep up and are replaced by the likes of MMA, Leenock, DRG. The quality of players has improved drastically over the past year and more of them are attending foreign tournaments as evident by this current mlg, IEM championship, Iron Squid. I mean if you look at those player pools, do you really think Idra has a chance of making the finals. I'm not writing to insult Idra, I think he's very good but unfortunately just not good enough relative to the current competition. Simple: By not slumping. He may be in a slump or he may not, only time will tell. Actually, time already did tell. A year ago.
Yes, between that period he apparently just won an Asus ROG invitational and an IEM and placed pretty high in alot of MLGs.
Gosh really, people only remember the very recent cups...
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On February 26 2012 17:28 GoSuChicken wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 17:15 VashTS wrote:On February 26 2012 16:36 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:On February 26 2012 16:16 VashTS wrote:On February 26 2012 16:00 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:On February 26 2012 14:40 zefreak wrote:
I'm not the biggest Idra fan, but nobody can really make to big a deal of his performance in the MLG arena. Oz and Nestea are pretty tough competition and it was a stacked tournament. I bet if Idra had Huk's bracket draw he would have gotten much farther. I'm sorry, but if Idra can't beat guys like Oz, Alive, Taeja, Seth, Nestea (while he's slumping) how is he ever going to win any notable future tournaments. Don't get me wrong all those guys are very good, but the problem is that there are about 64 of them in the GSL and and a few top foreigners like Kas, Stephano, NaNiwa and so on. Competitive SC2 has trimmed the fat so to speak. Gone are the Bit by Bit, Makaprime, SlayersLegalMind...guys like them just couldn't keep up and are replaced by the likes of MMA, Leenock, DRG. The quality of players has improved drastically over the past year and more of them are attending foreign tournaments as evident by this current mlg, IEM championship, Iron Squid. I mean if you look at those player pools, do you really think Idra has a chance of making the finals. I'm not writing to insult Idra, I think he's very good but unfortunately just not good enough relative to the current competition. Simple: By not slumping. He may be in a slump or he may not, only time will tell. Actually, time already did tell. A year ago. Yes, between that period he apparently just won an Asus ROG invitational and an IEM and placed pretty high in alot of MLGs. Gosh really, people only remember the very recent cups...
You... Can't tell if you're trying to be silly, or a dick. Maybe its because I'm preoccupied, but I caan't tell what youre getting at.
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is the idra list of music broken ish for anyone else.. just list me to a random post
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On February 26 2012 16:36 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 16:16 VashTS wrote:On February 26 2012 16:00 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:On February 26 2012 14:40 zefreak wrote:
I'm not the biggest Idra fan, but nobody can really make to big a deal of his performance in the MLG arena. Oz and Nestea are pretty tough competition and it was a stacked tournament. I bet if Idra had Huk's bracket draw he would have gotten much farther. I'm sorry, but if Idra can't beat guys like Oz, Alive, Taeja, Seth, Nestea (while he's slumping) how is he ever going to win any notable future tournaments. Don't get me wrong all those guys are very good, but the problem is that there are about 64 of them in the GSL and and a few top foreigners like Kas, Stephano, NaNiwa and so on. Competitive SC2 has trimmed the fat so to speak. Gone are the Bit by Bit, Makaprime, SlayersLegalMind...guys like them just couldn't keep up and are replaced by the likes of MMA, Leenock, DRG. The quality of players has improved drastically over the past year and more of them are attending foreign tournaments as evident by this current mlg, IEM championship, Iron Squid. I mean if you look at those player pools, do you really think Idra has a chance of making the finals. I'm not writing to insult Idra, I think he's very good but unfortunately just not good enough relative to the current competition. Simple: By not slumping. He may be in a slump or he may not, only time will tell.
Well that's nice and meaningless. We're fans, we don't only sing when we're winning. If you can't get that, that's sad but eh.. we should care why?
On February 19 2012 12:47 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 11:17 Perseverance wrote:On February 19 2012 09:55 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:
O Idra, I love you....because you make me so happy when you lose. Do you like his rage or do you just dislike him? Both, I dislike him and I like his ragequit. Anyway, I don't seem him making out of his group.
Hmm I wonder why you're here..
Nobbers aside, keep it up Greg, you'll get over this bump back to domination!
On February 26 2012 19:18 sPlosH wrote:
is the idra list of music broken ish for anyone else.. just list me to a random post
Yeah me too, though I don't quite remember where it was supposed to go >< Grooveshark's still fine however.
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Whoops, double post instead of edit.
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Look above that post, you'll find it
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Idra's got a tough Iron squid group but I actually seem him coming second (losing vs MC). He definitely has what it takes to beat MVP (if MVP doesn't get sudden inspiration and decide to become the best player in the world again), Thorzain and Symbol (Symbol looks decent @ ZvZ tbh).
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On February 26 2012 17:28 GoSuChicken wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 17:15 VashTS wrote:On February 26 2012 16:36 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:On February 26 2012 16:16 VashTS wrote:On February 26 2012 16:00 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:On February 26 2012 14:40 zefreak wrote:
I'm not the biggest Idra fan, but nobody can really make to big a deal of his performance in the MLG arena. Oz and Nestea are pretty tough competition and it was a stacked tournament. I bet if Idra had Huk's bracket draw he would have gotten much farther. I'm sorry, but if Idra can't beat guys like Oz, Alive, Taeja, Seth, Nestea (while he's slumping) how is he ever going to win any notable future tournaments. Don't get me wrong all those guys are very good, but the problem is that there are about 64 of them in the GSL and and a few top foreigners like Kas, Stephano, NaNiwa and so on. Competitive SC2 has trimmed the fat so to speak. Gone are the Bit by Bit, Makaprime, SlayersLegalMind...guys like them just couldn't keep up and are replaced by the likes of MMA, Leenock, DRG. The quality of players has improved drastically over the past year and more of them are attending foreign tournaments as evident by this current mlg, IEM championship, Iron Squid. I mean if you look at those player pools, do you really think Idra has a chance of making the finals. I'm not writing to insult Idra, I think he's very good but unfortunately just not good enough relative to the current competition. Simple: By not slumping. He may be in a slump or he may not, only time will tell. Actually, time already did tell. A year ago. Yes, between that period he apparently just won an Asus ROG invitational and an IEM and placed pretty high in alot of MLGs. Gosh really, people only remember the very recent cups...
Because only recent cups with koreans matter. pre- korean MLGs, IEMs, whatever are just dry farts.
Thanks for the laugh, guy above me.
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Slasher-Interview after Idra's loss against Oz and before the Nestea games.
http://www.gamespot.com/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty/videos/greg-idra-fields-interview-6351072/
Btw., reading through this fanclub becomes more and more a waste of time. When you criticize a player or just express your opinion about that player in general, why don't you put some thought into it before you speak? Reading through this thread one gets the impression that peoples' sense of self-worth is determined by Idra's tournament results. Therefore, whenever he loses some fools get in here to whine about the situation because their ego got hurt. Why don't you go and compete in something yourself? That way your self-image might get disconnected from the performance of the player that you would like to be, but aren't.
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On February 27 2012 00:31 vlkv wrote:Slasher-Interview after Idra's loss against Oz and before the Nestea games. http://www.gamespot.com/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty/videos/greg-idra-fields-interview-6351072/Btw., reading through this fanclub becomes more and more a waste of time. When you criticize a player or just express your opinion about that player in general, why don't you put some thought into it before you speak? Reading through this thread one gets the impression that peoples' sense of self-worth is determined by Idra's tournament results. Therefore, whenever he loses some fools get in here to whine about the situation because their ego got hurt. Why don't you go and compete in something yourself? That way your self-image might get disconnected from the performance of the player that you would like to be, but aren't.
Haha I liked in the begining when Idra was listing his early accomplishments he mentions that he got 2nd in iem to "reapers". He didn't get second to Morrow, he got second to reapers. 
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On February 27 2012 00:41 Chewbacca. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2012 00:31 vlkv wrote:Slasher-Interview after Idra's loss against Oz and before the Nestea games. http://www.gamespot.com/starcraft-ii-wings-of-liberty/videos/greg-idra-fields-interview-6351072/Btw., reading through this fanclub becomes more and more a waste of time. When you criticize a player or just express your opinion about that player in general, why don't you put some thought into it before you speak? Reading through this thread one gets the impression that peoples' sense of self-worth is determined by Idra's tournament results. Therefore, whenever he loses some fools get in here to whine about the situation because their ego got hurt. Why don't you go and compete in something yourself? That way your self-image might get disconnected from the performance of the player that you would like to be, but aren't. Haha I liked in the begining when Idra was listing his early accomplishments he mentions that he got 2nd in iem to "reapers". He didn't get second to Morrow, he got second to reapers.
He's full of win :D
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To be fair, that is what happened. ^^
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On February 26 2012 16:00 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 14:40 zefreak wrote:
I'm not the biggest Idra fan, but nobody can really make to big a deal of his performance in the MLG arena. Oz and Nestea are pretty tough competition and it was a stacked tournament. I bet if Idra had Huk's bracket draw he would have gotten much farther. I'm sorry, but if Idra can't beat guys like Oz, Alive, Taeja, Seth, Nestea (while he's slumping) how is he ever going to win any notable future tournaments. Don't get me wrong all those guys are very good, but the problem is that there are about 64 of them in the GSL and and a few top foreigners like Kas, Stephano, NaNiwa and so on. Competitive SC2 has trimmed the fat so to speak. Gone are the Bit by Bit, Makaprime, SlayersLegalMind...guys like them just couldn't keep up and are replaced by the likes of MMA, Leenock, DRG. The quality of players has improved drastically over the past year and more of them are attending foreign tournaments as evident by this current mlg, IEM championship, Iron Squid. I mean if you look at those player pools, do you really think Idra has a chance of making the finals. I'm not writing to insult Idra, I think he's very good but unfortunately just not good enough relative to the current competition.
Leaving aside Sheth, a zvz played cross-server right before MLG, there's no shame in losing to Alive, Oz, Taeja and Nestea. Nestea might be the best ZvZ player ever in either SC2 or BW - his win rate is 81%, compared to Jaedong's peak of 81%. The games against Taeja and Alive... I don't think IDra cares at all about showmatches. Whether that's a good position to take or not is a different debate, but it seems pretty clear that he doesn't give his all outside major tournaments. If you're going to bring up losses, losing to Lucky and Avenge is much more damning, IMO.
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i love idra but he defiantly needs a hair cut in that interview
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On February 26 2012 19:18 sPlosH wrote:
is the idra list of music broken ish for anyone else.. just list me to a random post
i fixed the link. For some reason old links to post get thrown off by 1 or 2 posts. IDK why
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On February 26 2012 20:33 Incognoto wrote:
Idra's got a tough Iron squid group but I actually seem him coming second (losing vs MC). He definitely has what it takes to beat MVP (if MVP doesn't get sudden inspiration and decide to become the best player in the world again), Thorzain and Symbol (Symbol looks decent @ ZvZ tbh).
Yeah MVP is really nowhere near top anymore, wouldn't be at all surprised to see Idra take him out.
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Huh didn't see the zealot drop in g3 vs Oz. Thanks for the link.
On February 27 2012 01:08 Luepert wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 20:33 Incognoto wrote:
Idra's got a tough Iron squid group but I actually seem him coming second (losing vs MC). He definitely has what it takes to beat MVP (if MVP doesn't get sudden inspiration and decide to become the best player in the world again), Thorzain and Symbol (Symbol looks decent @ ZvZ tbh). Yeah MVP is really nowhere near top anymore, wouldn't be at all surprised to see Idra take him out.
It does not do to underestimate MVP after a few less than amazing results tbh. Or to assume a loss vs MC. I hope they play their best tbh and that IdrA does too. Going to be some great matches.
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On February 26 2012 20:33 Incognoto wrote:
Idra's got a tough Iron squid group but I actually seem him coming second (losing vs MC). He definitely has what it takes to beat MVP (if MVP doesn't get sudden inspiration and decide to become the best player in the world again), Thorzain and Symbol (Symbol looks decent @ ZvZ tbh).
I don't think IdrA will get out of that group. I honestly don't see him taking a series. Maybe against Thorzain, but Thorzain is ridiculously good as well.
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