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Dont Panic
Profile Joined October 2010
United States194 Posts
January 19 2011 11:39 GMT
#3061
Can't feel sorry for IdrA. It was obvious he should switch from zerg and he has been saying he would do that since beta. IdrA did you really think Blizzard was going to turn a new leaf LOL? Sure you can go ahead and blame the race and bring valid reasons to the table, but it was your decision to choose the race. Everybody is still playing the same game, so by this time you can't blame it on bad luck.
I am order. I am logic. I know exactly who I am.
Babaganoush
Profile Joined November 2010
United States626 Posts
January 19 2011 11:45 GMT
#3062
On January 19 2011 19:16 DocOwnage wrote:
I honestly have never seen a game where Jinro plays so outstandingly well that he just takes a win from someone.


Please refer to the games that Jinro played against oGsMC.
+ Show Spoiler +

In no way was that an abusive tactic. As a matter of fact, he played mech, where a standard Korean progamer would most likely go marauder-heavy on against MC's composition.

And he rolled over MC.
Stick a fork in those buns.
BrahCJ
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia659 Posts
January 19 2011 11:53 GMT
#3063
Why didn't Idra have a drone patrolling the base of the ramp?
He didn't expect Jinro to do it, so Jinro did it! Hate to use the word "metagame" but thats what it is.
Jinro wasn't doing a bunker push into the main. He was trying to force a sunken, maybe some roaches, and delay the expansion. It wasn't any form of all-in. The SCVs kept mining.

Idra made the DECISION to tap out. He showed a lack of fortitude. You can't really do that in the GSL.

I feel for Idra. I was rooting for him. Spawn positions really didn't help his cause, but they're the breaks.....

As for the "T IS IMBA" trash..... Why have zergs won the GSL twice, while terran haven't won once. Why did a zerg win the JTV invitational? Why did a Protoss win the SCReddit tourney?
I don't understand you haters....
Play the games!
Shorack
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium111 Posts
January 19 2011 12:00 GMT
#3064
On January 19 2011 20:53 BrahCJ wrote:
Why didn't Idra have a drone patrolling the base of the ramp?

I guess that because of the close positions, he didn't want to lose any mining time because you need to have a defense up asap for all the possible extremely fast pushes terran can throw at you in those positions.

Get your econ up a tad too slow or drone to hard to get it up fast and you can't stop the pushes i imagine.
Deekin[
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia1713 Posts
January 19 2011 12:02 GMT
#3065
Good games today IdrA, pretty dumb ragequit on metalopolis though
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ CJ Entus fighting! I am a Leta, Hydra, Mind and (ofcourse) Firebathero fan. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
January 19 2011 12:05 GMT
#3066
On January 19 2011 21:00 Shorack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 20:53 BrahCJ wrote:
Why didn't Idra have a drone patrolling the base of the ramp?

I guess that because of the close positions, he didn't want to lose any mining time because you need to have a defense up asap for all the possible extremely fast pushes terran can throw at you in those positions.

Get your econ up a tad too slow or drone to hard to get it up fast and you can't stop the pushes i imagine.

Doesn't really hold up. Idra should've known that BECAUSE it was close positions, a quick bunker/marine rush was on the cards. He just assumed Jinro wouldn't and that cost him the game.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
January 19 2011 12:05 GMT
#3067
The first marine can shoot the patroling drone away, or even the scv, since it will get the first hit off.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
January 19 2011 12:08 GMT
#3068
For people talking about Metalopolis... Jinro wasn't all-in, and that is why it was so powerful. If he had been all-in, then IdrA stopping it means he has a legitimate shot to win the game. Instead, Jinro had almost nothing committed to that and could go down any tech path in the game he wanted at that point while IdrA was stuck on 1 base and nowhere to go. Also, the patrolling drone is more about stopping a probe from walling, an scv that has a marine right behind it is going to kill any patrolling drone in a second anyway.

Am I saying IdrA should have quit the game? No, but don't pretend like he was throwing away some good chance at a comeback or it shows some glaring mental weakness on his part.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
January 19 2011 12:12 GMT
#3069
On January 19 2011 20:53 BrahCJ wrote:

As for the "T IS IMBA" trash..... Why have zergs won the GSL twice, while terran haven't won once. Why did a zerg win the JTV invitational? Why did a Protoss win the SCReddit tourney?
I don't understand you haters....



Because Terrans can get away with mistakes. Mistakes that Zerg nor Protoss can.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
January 19 2011 12:14 GMT
#3070
On January 19 2011 20:53 BrahCJ wrote:
Why didn't Idra have a drone patrolling the base of the ramp?
He didn't expect Jinro to do it, so Jinro did it! Hate to use the word "metagame" but thats what it is.
Jinro wasn't doing a bunker push into the main. He was trying to force a sunken, maybe some roaches, and delay the expansion. It wasn't any form of all-in. The SCVs kept mining.

Idra made the DECISION to tap out. He showed a lack of fortitude. You can't really do that in the GSL.

I feel for Idra. I was rooting for him. Spawn positions really didn't help his cause, but they're the breaks.....

As for the "T IS IMBA" trash..... Why have zergs won the GSL twice, while terran haven't won once. Why did a zerg win the JTV invitational? Why did a Protoss win the SCReddit tourney?
I don't understand you haters....

That's well within the realms of statistical probability. It's not impossible for Zerg to win, just less likely.
With some luck IdrA could've won today. If he gets long distances on Metal and then Jinro doesn't hear the commentators and expect the 6pool he could've won.
But he needed to play well on even maps AND get lucky.

CodeA Ro4: TTTT
CodeS Ro8: TTTZ
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Az0r_au
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia385 Posts
January 19 2011 12:16 GMT
#3071
On January 19 2011 21:08 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
For people talking about Metalopolis... Jinro wasn't all-in, and that is why it was so powerful. If he had been all-in, then IdrA stopping it means he has a legitimate shot to win the game. Instead, Jinro had almost nothing committed to that and could go down any tech path in the game he wanted at that point while IdrA was stuck on 1 base and nowhere to go. Also, the patrolling drone is more about stopping a probe from walling, an scv that has a marine right behind it is going to kill any patrolling drone in a second anyway.

Am I saying IdrA should have quit the game? No, but don't pretend like he was throwing away some good chance at a comeback or it shows some glaring mental weakness on his part.


Finally someone who understands why terran is so fucking broken atm. Jinro invests 2scvs and a marine, IdrA has to pull 6+ drones and lings just to hold. herp derp balance

User was warned for this post
BroodjeBaller
Profile Joined January 2011
125 Posts
January 19 2011 12:27 GMT
#3072
On January 19 2011 21:16 Az0r_au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 21:08 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
For people talking about Metalopolis... Jinro wasn't all-in, and that is why it was so powerful. If he had been all-in, then IdrA stopping it means he has a legitimate shot to win the game. Instead, Jinro had almost nothing committed to that and could go down any tech path in the game he wanted at that point while IdrA was stuck on 1 base and nowhere to go. Also, the patrolling drone is more about stopping a probe from walling, an scv that has a marine right behind it is going to kill any patrolling drone in a second anyway.

Am I saying IdrA should have quit the game? No, but don't pretend like he was throwing away some good chance at a comeback or it shows some glaring mental weakness on his part.


Finally someone who understands why terran is so fucking broken atm. Jinro invests 2scvs and a marine, IdrA has to pull 6+ drones and lings just to hold. herp derp balance

User was warned for this post

he could have patrolled a drone, but he didnt see the second scv comming so he didnt expect it
ludic123
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway161 Posts
January 19 2011 12:39 GMT
#3073
Some people in this thread really need to calm down. Sure, I get why you're saying terran seems easier and all that, but the manner in which you do it is getting extremely annoying. Try to get your points across in a more constructive way, instead of lashing out at Jinro and terrans in general. And yes, I'm a terran. Bite me.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
January 19 2011 12:47 GMT
#3074
On January 19 2011 21:39 ludic123 wrote:
Some people in this thread really need to calm down. Sure, I get why you're saying terran seems easier and all that, but the manner in which you do it is getting extremely annoying. Try to get your points across in a more constructive way, instead of lashing out at Jinro and terrans in general. And yes, I'm a terran. Bite me.


Accidental humor at its finest. Generally, telling people to be constructive while simultaneously telling them to bite you probably isn't the best idea.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Scaipax
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands54 Posts
January 19 2011 12:57 GMT
#3075
The spawn positions didn't help IdrA either
I hope that we see the new GSL maps as soon as possible
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
January 19 2011 12:57 GMT
#3076
On January 19 2011 21:12 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 20:53 BrahCJ wrote:

As for the "T IS IMBA" trash..... Why have zergs won the GSL twice, while terran haven't won once. Why did a zerg win the JTV invitational? Why did a Protoss win the SCReddit tourney?
I don't understand you haters....



Because Terrans can get away with mistakes. Mistakes that Zerg nor Protoss can.


Nice absolute there. It's a lazy argument because most mistakes T can 'get away with' are race specific. Obviously Z and P can't get away with mistakes they can't make. Please point out some actual examples that apply to all races you think a terran can get away with that the others can't.

(I'll give you one; bunkers. It is odd that you get a full refund, in my opinion. You can say mules I guess but that one is pretty debatable)
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 12:58:55
January 19 2011 12:57 GMT
#3077
On January 19 2011 21:14 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 20:53 BrahCJ wrote:
Why didn't Idra have a drone patrolling the base of the ramp?
He didn't expect Jinro to do it, so Jinro did it! Hate to use the word "metagame" but thats what it is.
Jinro wasn't doing a bunker push into the main. He was trying to force a sunken, maybe some roaches, and delay the expansion. It wasn't any form of all-in. The SCVs kept mining.

Idra made the DECISION to tap out. He showed a lack of fortitude. You can't really do that in the GSL.

I feel for Idra. I was rooting for him. Spawn positions really didn't help his cause, but they're the breaks.....

As for the "T IS IMBA" trash..... Why have zergs won the GSL twice, while terran haven't won once. Why did a zerg win the JTV invitational? Why did a Protoss win the SCReddit tourney?
I don't understand you haters....

That's well within the realms of statistical probability. It's not impossible for Zerg to win, just less likely.
With some luck IdrA could've won today. If he gets long distances on Metal and then Jinro doesn't hear the commentators and expect the 6pool he could've won.
But he needed to play well on even maps AND get lucky.

CodeA Ro4: TTTT
CodeS Ro8: TTTZ


Gainward tourney finishers: TTTTTTTZ
Race wars stats: TvZ 5-0, TvP 5-0
Next IEM tourney: TTTTTTTTTTTP

Yeah that guy's "Z imba is nonsense" is actually the nonsense...at least when we play games on the current map pool.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
magicbullet
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Singapore163 Posts
January 19 2011 13:14 GMT
#3078
On January 19 2011 21:16 Az0r_au wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 21:08 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
For people talking about Metalopolis... Jinro wasn't all-in, and that is why it was so powerful. If he had been all-in, then IdrA stopping it means he has a legitimate shot to win the game. Instead, Jinro had almost nothing committed to that and could go down any tech path in the game he wanted at that point while IdrA was stuck on 1 base and nowhere to go. Also, the patrolling drone is more about stopping a probe from walling, an scv that has a marine right behind it is going to kill any patrolling drone in a second anyway.

Am I saying IdrA should have quit the game? No, but don't pretend like he was throwing away some good chance at a comeback or it shows some glaring mental weakness on his part.


Finally someone who understands why terran is so fucking broken atm. Jinro invests 2scvs and a marine, IdrA has to pull 6+ drones and lings just to hold. herp derp balance

User was warned for this post


Why the heck is he being warned?
In the long run we are all dead - J.M. Keynes
ffz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States490 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-19 13:39:33
January 19 2011 13:18 GMT
#3079
Idra, I'm a fan and i stayed up til 5 am in the morning to watch u play. I know that doesn't give me the right to say jack shit but i just want to tell you how i feel right now and im sure u'll prob just skip right over this. I don't care. I'm pretty angry at the world right now.

It pisses me off so much when i hear Jinro thanking all of his teammates in Liquid and oGs practicing with him and then I remember how u say ur main practice is from the ladder. Please manner up and make some friends so you can have some practice partners. You need more than just ret and artosis to bounce ideas off of... and neither of them play terran.

God damn EG needs to hurry up and get an actual team in korea instead of just stranding idra all by himself.
Meow.
Junichi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1056 Posts
January 19 2011 13:27 GMT
#3080
I guess this is the place to ask this question: Where is IdrA's signature from? The one about Artosis sounding like a phony tv weatherman... ?

Thanks in advance!
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
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