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Starlos
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada191 Posts
January 08 2011 04:41 GMT
#2461
On January 08 2011 12:02 Mintastic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2011 06:29 Whole wrote:
new quote that i missed last week

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 31 2010 11:10 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 05:43 Liquid`HuK wrote:
On December 31 2010 01:53 MorroW wrote:
On December 29 2010 17:08 IdrA wrote:
On December 29 2010 17:01 Beef Noodles wrote:
On December 29 2010 16:21 IdrA wrote:
On December 29 2010 15:44 Liquid`Ret wrote:
all these theories on idra ladder are untrue...he ladders to win games...just watch his stream...it also explains why zerg isnt in top10 and why there are less of us in the top200

indeed
if i think i can win i stay in the game. there are times when ive left a game and my opponent couldve made a gigantic mistake and handed me the win, but thats rare and irrelevant.
its just really fucking easy to lose as zerg.

Do you think that zerg is currently at a disadvantage or do you think it is a momentum race that cannot lose momentum if they want to win?

I know that you don't like to respond very often, but I would like to hear your views on the current state of the zerg race (without iNcontrol telling you to shut up like on SOTG lol)

zerg is fucking awful
clearly weakest, least reliable options early game. any viable pressure is nearly a complete allin, besides light roach aggression which is easily nullified. both t and p have lots of ways to put game ending pressure on z early and half of them arent even close to allin, and most are unscoutable and have different counters.

and the idea that z is somehow the strongest late game race is fuckin absurd. hive units are nearly useless and horribly cost inefficient unless broodlords catch them off guard. ya, you can insta remax if you're allowed to get a giant econ, but remaxing on lair units vs collosus or tank based armies hardly matters when you can trade 200/200 for a tenth of their army.

if z guesses, and guessing is required if t and p dont show a ridiculously early expansion, correctly and hits drone timings perfectly then they have a mid game advantage, but its not an advantage that can be used very well. its very easy for t or p to make themselves unkillable and head for that invincible late game army. z gets to use their unit advantage to tech towards hive, which can be nullified, or to expand a bunch so they can throw away a few extra 200/200 armies before getting rolled.

zerg is failing massively in just about every statistic besides gsl first places. the race is fucking awful. i honestly have no idea how so many people dont acknowledge it yet. zergs performance in the foreign scene is very nearly non existent. i think morrow has won one viking cup and otherwise 0 z wins since i won mlg dc. and a pitiful number of titles before that.

to be fair u cant really make alot of statistics of the foreigner scene. i think zerg is a race that simply needs more time put into it than terran for example, doesnt make it imbalanced. just compare t and p in sc1 tosses won more in the foreigner scene aswell because we dont play as much as the koreans.
talked to dimaga he has been inactive if i understood him correctly and darkforce has been busy with studies afaik like most foreigners and i well, im not good enough yet. who do you want to win in the foreigner scene? actionjesus? daboo? skruf? lol

i cant make a good statement what i think about balance since i have so much to learn still but as far as my games go and games in europe i almost hear every p/t say z is imba while all zergs around me tell p is imba

my point is, the level in europe is probably not high enough to draw fair statics from. but i think most of us has already agreed zerg needs more practice hours than a terran to win big tournaments




always such a great manner bear^^. Although I agree with most of this I think its still a lot harder to win in some aspects as zerg compared to the other races, especially at lower levels. To early though to make such broad whine posts as many zergs have though as well.

the fact that you ever win games is more than enough justification for any amount of whining

I watch for Idra posts just for the one-liners

In the future though, could you please link the thread that the quote is from? Thanks.


You're asking a lot from the Keeper Of the Quotes !
"you're really good at making carriers [...] very useful talent toi have" - IdrA
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
January 08 2011 21:45 GMT
#2462
On January 08 2011 12:02 Mintastic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2011 06:29 Whole wrote:
new quote that i missed last week

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 31 2010 11:10 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2010 05:43 Liquid`HuK wrote:
On December 31 2010 01:53 MorroW wrote:
On December 29 2010 17:08 IdrA wrote:
On December 29 2010 17:01 Beef Noodles wrote:
On December 29 2010 16:21 IdrA wrote:
On December 29 2010 15:44 Liquid`Ret wrote:
all these theories on idra ladder are untrue...he ladders to win games...just watch his stream...it also explains why zerg isnt in top10 and why there are less of us in the top200

indeed
if i think i can win i stay in the game. there are times when ive left a game and my opponent couldve made a gigantic mistake and handed me the win, but thats rare and irrelevant.
its just really fucking easy to lose as zerg.

Do you think that zerg is currently at a disadvantage or do you think it is a momentum race that cannot lose momentum if they want to win?

I know that you don't like to respond very often, but I would like to hear your views on the current state of the zerg race (without iNcontrol telling you to shut up like on SOTG lol)

zerg is fucking awful
clearly weakest, least reliable options early game. any viable pressure is nearly a complete allin, besides light roach aggression which is easily nullified. both t and p have lots of ways to put game ending pressure on z early and half of them arent even close to allin, and most are unscoutable and have different counters.

and the idea that z is somehow the strongest late game race is fuckin absurd. hive units are nearly useless and horribly cost inefficient unless broodlords catch them off guard. ya, you can insta remax if you're allowed to get a giant econ, but remaxing on lair units vs collosus or tank based armies hardly matters when you can trade 200/200 for a tenth of their army.

if z guesses, and guessing is required if t and p dont show a ridiculously early expansion, correctly and hits drone timings perfectly then they have a mid game advantage, but its not an advantage that can be used very well. its very easy for t or p to make themselves unkillable and head for that invincible late game army. z gets to use their unit advantage to tech towards hive, which can be nullified, or to expand a bunch so they can throw away a few extra 200/200 armies before getting rolled.

zerg is failing massively in just about every statistic besides gsl first places. the race is fucking awful. i honestly have no idea how so many people dont acknowledge it yet. zergs performance in the foreign scene is very nearly non existent. i think morrow has won one viking cup and otherwise 0 z wins since i won mlg dc. and a pitiful number of titles before that.

to be fair u cant really make alot of statistics of the foreigner scene. i think zerg is a race that simply needs more time put into it than terran for example, doesnt make it imbalanced. just compare t and p in sc1 tosses won more in the foreigner scene aswell because we dont play as much as the koreans.
talked to dimaga he has been inactive if i understood him correctly and darkforce has been busy with studies afaik like most foreigners and i well, im not good enough yet. who do you want to win in the foreigner scene? actionjesus? daboo? skruf? lol

i cant make a good statement what i think about balance since i have so much to learn still but as far as my games go and games in europe i almost hear every p/t say z is imba while all zergs around me tell p is imba

my point is, the level in europe is probably not high enough to draw fair statics from. but i think most of us has already agreed zerg needs more practice hours than a terran to win big tournaments




always such a great manner bear^^. Although I agree with most of this I think its still a lot harder to win in some aspects as zerg compared to the other races, especially at lower levels. To early though to make such broad whine posts as many zergs have though as well.

the fact that you ever win games is more than enough justification for any amount of whining

I watch for Idra posts just for the one-liners

In the future though, could you please link the thread that the quote is from? Thanks.


I put the thread name in when it is relevant. in that case, knowing the thread wouldn't affect anything...if you really want to know, you can just use the search function
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-09 00:18:48
January 09 2011 00:17 GMT
#2463
edit- oops, wrong thread
Don't mind me
BasilPesto
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia624 Posts
January 09 2011 05:31 GMT
#2464
[image loading]


Lessons I've learnt from this doing this: I need to improve my blending/toning/shading/everything.

Might try something a little more creative next time.
"I before E...*sunglasses*... except after C." - Jim Carrey
SleepTech
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States222 Posts
January 09 2011 05:35 GMT
#2465
His eyes are as black as his gracken soul!.

Awesome drawing!
SpaceFighting
Profile Joined January 2010
New Zealand690 Posts
January 09 2011 05:39 GMT
#2466
yeah dude that drawing is brilliant gjgj
kuz pro
Deekin[
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia1713 Posts
January 09 2011 05:44 GMT
#2467
On January 09 2011 14:31 BasilPesto wrote:
[image loading]


Lessons I've learnt from this doing this: I need to improve my blending/toning/shading/everything.

Might try something a little more creative next time.


Awesome drawing there, keep it up
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ CJ Entus fighting! I am a Leta, Hydra, Mind and (ofcourse) Firebathero fan. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Kittenlisk
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia34 Posts
January 09 2011 06:17 GMT
#2468
Man that gives me chills!
Gracken Fighting!
BadWithNames
Profile Joined April 2010
United States441 Posts
January 09 2011 06:18 GMT
#2469
That's a really kick ass picture. Only thing you need to improve is how fast you can make more and of different people.
One year in Seoul...yesh please
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
January 09 2011 06:27 GMT
#2470
On January 09 2011 15:18 BadWithNames wrote:
That's a really kick ass picture. Only thing you need to improve is how fast you can make more and of different people.


no...ONLY OF IDRA
BadWithNames
Profile Joined April 2010
United States441 Posts
January 09 2011 06:30 GMT
#2471
On January 09 2011 15:27 Whole wrote:
no...ONLY OF IDRA

So selfish. At least let him make one of Ret.
One year in Seoul...yesh please
BasilPesto
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia624 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-09 06:32:01
January 09 2011 06:31 GMT
#2472
On January 09 2011 14:35 SleepTech wrote:
His eyes are as black as his gracken soul!.


Indeed, that was very much part of the appeal in drawing him... so much character in those eyes...

On January 09 2011 14:39 SpaceFighting wrote:
yeah dude that drawing is brilliant gjgj

On January 09 2011 14:44 Deekin[ wrote:
Awesome drawing there, keep it up

On January 09 2011 15:17 Kittenlisk wrote:
Man that gives me chills!


Thanks everyone.

On January 09 2011 15:27 Whole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 15:18 BadWithNames wrote:
That's a really kick ass picture. Only thing you need to improve is how fast you can make more and of different people.


no...ONLY OF IDRA


Haha, yes.
"I before E...*sunglasses*... except after C." - Jim Carrey
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
January 09 2011 06:55 GMT
#2473
On January 09 2011 15:30 BadWithNames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 15:27 Whole wrote:
no...ONLY OF IDRA

So selfish. At least let him make one of Ret.


a ret is fine too
d1ngdong
Profile Joined October 2010
United States33 Posts
January 09 2011 10:57 GMT
#2474
ESFIWorld.com has an interview with IdrA about his GSL Group H matches Tuesday, among other things. He talks about what he thinks his chances of advancing are, and describes the playstyles of his three opponents in the group.

Here's what he had to say about that:

The one map format is pretty big - there's a huge difference between playing someone on Steppes of War versus playing them on Scrap Station, and with one map, that plays an even bigger role than in a normal match. Jinro generally plays for macro games, but he's capable of aggressive or at least harass-based openings. Ensnare isn't much of a macro player...only way me versus him is likely to go long is if we play on Jungle Basin. Check prefers low econ games as well but Zerg vs. Zerg is really unpredictable and any two openings can cancel each other out so anything could happen in that match. I like my chances overall, but the maps will play a huge role. I have Jinro on Jungle Basin, then I could end up with Ensnare on Lost Temple and Check on Jungle Basin, a map with a lot of build order variance in ZvZ, and in that situation it'll be really tough to advance.


Link: IdrA interview on ESFI World
Calasmere
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom161 Posts
January 09 2011 12:14 GMT
#2475
IdrA should stream more... I love his streams. Great insight on an amazing Zerg player for several hours.
Trinz
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia72 Posts
January 09 2011 12:34 GMT
#2476
Wish he streamed more.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
January 09 2011 12:55 GMT
#2477
Remember that he has his GSL game on tuesday. Will be tough.... I don't know if streaming now is a good idea ^^

He should focus on beating Jinro and all the GSL
liaf
Profile Joined April 2009
Norway318 Posts
January 09 2011 13:03 GMT
#2478
Yeah, he was only streaming because he had a lot of downtime between tourneys. Now that GSL is going on again it might be a long time until we see him stream again T_T
♥ Snute ♥ Scarlett ♥ Jaedong ♥ KeeN ♥
Warmyth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands107 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-09 13:53:39
January 09 2011 13:48 GMT
#2479
On January 09 2011 22:03 liaf wrote:
Yeah, he was only streaming because he had a lot of downtime between tourneys. Now that GSL is going on again it might be a long time until we see him stream again T_T


Lets say we hope he wont stream again for a long time, cause this will mean he is owning GSL

Edit: btw thanks for the esfiworld.com interview link !
Our light shall burn the pathway to the stars.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
January 09 2011 16:11 GMT
#2480
Great picture and nice little interview. Cheers, guys.
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