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jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
December 22 2010 03:29 GMT
#19841
On December 22 2010 11:17 ace246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2010 11:07 jax1492 wrote:
On December 22 2010 11:05 ace246 wrote:
On December 22 2010 10:28 Waffles wrote:
i have no fucking idea what they were thinking. Even as some what of a snsd fan i didnt even think close to putting garbage Oh! near #2.


Nagging and Good girl bad girl defintely deserve where they are. Miss A very good for rookies.

^this

18. Run Devil Run - Girls' Generation < 99% exact cheap copy of kesha's song
Oh! - Girls' Generation < just plain slutty

If the ranks are determined by select few people, they are fucking retard.
If the ranks are decided by the public, then clearly there is something wrong with your average korean.


kesha never released the song, she recorded it for the producers before she was famous ... sm entertainment got the rights to it, please google before your say things that are not true.


I already know that kesha never released the song. Obviously the song was never released by Kesha because it wasn't worth the time. That being said, a song that wasn't worth being released becoming 18th on K-chart is downright pathetic imo. I mean wouldn't kesha release the song if it had been profitable?

Edit: actually there is no point arguing about this so i'll stop. Weighing in all the goods and bads that happend, 2010 overall has got to be the shittiest year for kpop( and for my life). Glad that this nightmare will soon end. Just gotta pray that 2011 will be decent.


Can i ask why are you posting in this thread? if you think kpop is so bad?
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-22 04:21:22
December 22 2010 04:16 GMT
#19842
for those who like pastelmusic stuffs
check out this album http://music.daum.net/album/album.do?albumId=520906
gotta get into the xmas mood.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTwk0aKZ2yk

s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-22 04:39:27
December 22 2010 04:36 GMT
#19843
On December 22 2010 12:29 jax1492 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2010 11:17 ace246 wrote:
On December 22 2010 11:07 jax1492 wrote:
On December 22 2010 11:05 ace246 wrote:
On December 22 2010 10:28 Waffles wrote:
i have no fucking idea what they were thinking. Even as some what of a snsd fan i didnt even think close to putting garbage Oh! near #2.


Nagging and Good girl bad girl defintely deserve where they are. Miss A very good for rookies.

^this

18. Run Devil Run - Girls' Generation < 99% exact cheap copy of kesha's song
Oh! - Girls' Generation < just plain slutty

If the ranks are determined by select few people, they are fucking retard.
If the ranks are decided by the public, then clearly there is something wrong with your average korean.


kesha never released the song, she recorded it for the producers before she was famous ... sm entertainment got the rights to it, please google before your say things that are not true.


I already know that kesha never released the song. Obviously the song was never released by Kesha because it wasn't worth the time. That being said, a song that wasn't worth being released becoming 18th on K-chart is downright pathetic imo. I mean wouldn't kesha release the song if it had been profitable?

Edit: actually there is no point arguing about this so i'll stop. Weighing in all the goods and bads that happend, 2010 overall has got to be the shittiest year for kpop( and for my life). Glad that this nightmare will soon end. Just gotta pray that 2011 will be decent.


Can i ask why are you posting in this thread? if you think kpop is so bad?


Like i said, there is a good side to kpop. But kpop is dominated by those bad things that maybe little by itself but just builds up like tumbling snowball. The good things are what keeps me interested in kpop. About 3 years ago in 2007~2008, kpop was like the best thing to happen in this world for mainstream music, everything to like about, nothing to hate about. But now...
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10830 Posts
December 22 2010 04:40 GMT
#19844
On December 22 2010 13:36 ace246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2010 12:29 jax1492 wrote:
On December 22 2010 11:17 ace246 wrote:
On December 22 2010 11:07 jax1492 wrote:
On December 22 2010 11:05 ace246 wrote:
On December 22 2010 10:28 Waffles wrote:
i have no fucking idea what they were thinking. Even as some what of a snsd fan i didnt even think close to putting garbage Oh! near #2.


Nagging and Good girl bad girl defintely deserve where they are. Miss A very good for rookies.

^this

18. Run Devil Run - Girls' Generation < 99% exact cheap copy of kesha's song
Oh! - Girls' Generation < just plain slutty

If the ranks are determined by select few people, they are fucking retard.
If the ranks are decided by the public, then clearly there is something wrong with your average korean.


kesha never released the song, she recorded it for the producers before she was famous ... sm entertainment got the rights to it, please google before your say things that are not true.


I already know that kesha never released the song. Obviously the song was never released by Kesha because it wasn't worth the time. That being said, a song that wasn't worth being released becoming 18th on K-chart is downright pathetic imo. I mean wouldn't kesha release the song if it had been profitable?

Edit: actually there is no point arguing about this so i'll stop. Weighing in all the goods and bads that happend, 2010 overall has got to be the shittiest year for kpop( and for my life). Glad that this nightmare will soon end. Just gotta pray that 2011 will be decent.


Can i ask why are you posting in this thread? if you think kpop is so bad?


Like i said, there is a good side to kpop. But kpop is dominated by those bad things that maybe little by itself but just builds up like tumbling snowball. The good things are what keeps me interested in kpop. 3 years ago, kpop was like the best thing to happen in this world for mainstream music, everything to like about, nothing to hate about. But now...

that's simply nostalgia talking. kpop was equally crappy 3 years ago. you've just become more jaded. everyone knows the golden age of kpop was the late 90s/early 00s.

i will admit, however, that the abuse of autotune has tainted 09/10
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UrASofty
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Canada772 Posts
December 22 2010 04:42 GMT
#19845
2007 the days when sg wannabe dominated the charts -.- and ballad artists were still successful
i be that pretty motherfucker
sandyph
Profile Joined September 2010
Indonesia1640 Posts
December 22 2010 04:44 GMT
#19846
Hmm. Wondered what happened 3 years ago in 2007 probably around July that make you think Kpop have suddenly become terrible
Put quote here for readability
OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
December 22 2010 04:48 GMT
#19847
On December 22 2010 13:44 sandyph wrote:
Hmm. Wondered what happened 3 years ago in 2007 probably around July that make you think Kpop have suddenly become terrible

i see what u did there.
+ Show Spoiler +
cough.. snsd.. cough..
s3x2-2 xiao3x2+2 bone3+2+2
ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
December 22 2010 04:49 GMT
#19848
On December 22 2010 13:44 sandyph wrote:
Hmm. Wondered what happened 3 years ago in 2007 probably around July that make you think Kpop have suddenly become terrible


To be precise, snsd releasing Tell me you wish (whatever that date is) was the day i realised kpop had lost its way.
Tippany
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States765 Posts
December 22 2010 05:23 GMT
#19849

Sowoneul malhaebwa! Such a good song. The nostalgia effect was already mentioned. And it's pretty typical. How often do you hear people complaining that things (a forum, music, or just life) aren't the "same as they used to be"?
Real action, my dream.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
December 22 2010 05:27 GMT
#19850
On December 22 2010 13:40 LosingID8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2010 13:36 ace246 wrote:
On December 22 2010 12:29 jax1492 wrote:
On December 22 2010 11:17 ace246 wrote:
On December 22 2010 11:07 jax1492 wrote:
On December 22 2010 11:05 ace246 wrote:
On December 22 2010 10:28 Waffles wrote:
i have no fucking idea what they were thinking. Even as some what of a snsd fan i didnt even think close to putting garbage Oh! near #2.


Nagging and Good girl bad girl defintely deserve where they are. Miss A very good for rookies.

^this

18. Run Devil Run - Girls' Generation < 99% exact cheap copy of kesha's song
Oh! - Girls' Generation < just plain slutty

If the ranks are determined by select few people, they are fucking retard.
If the ranks are decided by the public, then clearly there is something wrong with your average korean.


kesha never released the song, she recorded it for the producers before she was famous ... sm entertainment got the rights to it, please google before your say things that are not true.


I already know that kesha never released the song. Obviously the song was never released by Kesha because it wasn't worth the time. That being said, a song that wasn't worth being released becoming 18th on K-chart is downright pathetic imo. I mean wouldn't kesha release the song if it had been profitable?

Edit: actually there is no point arguing about this so i'll stop. Weighing in all the goods and bads that happend, 2010 overall has got to be the shittiest year for kpop( and for my life). Glad that this nightmare will soon end. Just gotta pray that 2011 will be decent.


Can i ask why are you posting in this thread? if you think kpop is so bad?


Like i said, there is a good side to kpop. But kpop is dominated by those bad things that maybe little by itself but just builds up like tumbling snowball. The good things are what keeps me interested in kpop. 3 years ago, kpop was like the best thing to happen in this world for mainstream music, everything to like about, nothing to hate about. But now...

that's simply nostalgia talking. kpop was equally crappy 3 years ago. you've just become more jaded. everyone knows the golden age of kpop was the late 90s/early 00s.

i will admit, however, that the abuse of autotune has tainted 09/10


Autotune is revolutionary cause now anyone can sing.
There's no S in KT. :P
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 22 2010 06:21 GMT
#19851
Can't wait until the autotune thing is over. Not just for kpop but for american music as well...jesus. It sucks because legit singers are using it because it's popular when it'd sound 100000x better without autotune.
silverfire
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States304 Posts
December 22 2010 06:36 GMT
#19852
On December 22 2010 12:16 Katsuge wrote:
Kesha was 'hired' to sing the song in order for the composers to sell the song to others. its called guide/demo version. And SM bought the damn song.

Do you have anything to back this up? From what I understand, this was actually just a plausible explanation offered in "defense" of SNSD (not that it was needed -- a purchased song is a purchased song regardless of its quality). Last I was informed (and MP3 ID3 tags that I've seen confirm this), Kesha included the song on a demo tape to her record label, but the song was rejected from her debut album and was consequently shopped around to potential buyers by the producers. It was only after they found a potential buyer that she rerecorded the same song as a guide song for the purchasers, who were eventually revealed to be SM Entertainment on behalf of SNSD.
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ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
December 22 2010 06:44 GMT
#19853
On December 22 2010 14:23 moose162 wrote:

Sowoneul malhaebwa! Such a good song. The nostalgia effect was already mentioned. And it's pretty typical. How often do you hear people complaining that things (a forum, music, or just life) aren't the "same as they used to be"?


SM bought the rights to use that song (once again) from some company in kazakstan or whatever ( the country has the suffix -stan, maybe uzbekiststan). Just goes to show that they would stoop so low just for profits.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 22 2010 06:57 GMT
#19854
On December 22 2010 15:36 silverfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2010 12:16 Katsuge wrote:
Kesha was 'hired' to sing the song in order for the composers to sell the song to others. its called guide/demo version. And SM bought the damn song.

Do you have anything to back this up? From what I understand, this was actually just a plausible explanation offered in "defense" of SNSD (not that it was needed -- a purchased song is a purchased song regardless of its quality). Last I was informed (and MP3 ID3 tags that I've seen confirm this), Kesha included the song on a demo tape to her record label, but the song was rejected from her debut album and was consequently shopped around to potential buyers by the producers. It was only after they found a potential buyer that she rerecorded the same song as a guide song for the purchasers, who were eventually revealed to be SM Entertainment on behalf of SNSD.

I heard the same thing, but does it matter? the point is that they bought the song from some songwriter for SNSD to use. I don't see why it's that big of a deal...it's not like most kpop groups write their songs or anything.
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-22 07:58:17
December 22 2010 07:56 GMT
#19855
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 22 2010 15:36 silverfire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2010 12:16 Katsuge wrote:
Kesha was 'hired' to sing the song in order for the composers to sell the song to others. its called guide/demo version. And SM bought the damn song.

Do you have anything to back this up? From what I understand, this was actually just a plausible explanation offered in "defense" of SNSD (not that it was needed -- a purchased song is a purchased song regardless of its quality). Last I was informed (and MP3 ID3 tags that I've seen confirm this), Kesha included the song on a demo tape to her record label, but the song was rejected from her debut album and was consequently shopped around to potential buyers by the producers. It was only after they found a potential buyer that she rerecorded the same song as a guide song for the purchasers, who were eventually revealed to be SM Entertainment on behalf of SNSD.

well thats how i heard to be..from somewhere(?)...not sure about the backing up part.

anyway i seriously wish that SM would stop using such tracks for their artists;
they deserve far better songs than oh/RdR/Lucifer/Bonamama/HurricaneVenus...

the only consolation is that they aren't as crazily autotuned as *cough*YG's*cough*.
but still, autotune. ugh.
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
December 22 2010 08:03 GMT
#19856
I will never understand why "high high"'s chorus is completely autotuned and stupid when GD and Top have both written and composed much better things before, and are capable of doing much more than that.
ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
December 22 2010 08:22 GMT
#19857
On December 22 2010 17:03 DystopiaX wrote:
I will never understand why "high high"'s chorus is completely autotuned and stupid when GD and Top have both written and composed much better things before, and are capable of doing much more than that.


Uhh when was that? IIRC, their previous songs were autotuned as well
branespload
Profile Joined April 2010
United States49 Posts
December 22 2010 08:40 GMT
#19858


swag od
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-22 08:45:31
December 22 2010 08:45 GMT
#19859
On December 22 2010 17:22 ace246 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2010 17:03 DystopiaX wrote:
I will never understand why "high high"'s chorus is completely autotuned and stupid when GD and Top have both written and composed much better things before, and are capable of doing much more than that.


Uhh when was that? IIRC, their previous songs were autotuned as well

Think back a few years, when autotune wasn't as prevalent.
God Bless
Doraemon.doraemon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States335 Posts
December 22 2010 08:52 GMT
#19860
how come i think snsd and kara sounds very good... they are the reason i started to listen to kpop lol
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