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On January 15 2017 05:11 DwD wrote: A proper version would've been eye contact T_T Also the camera is too far away yea i have to agree with this, but at least its the step in right direction. Official MV was rather mediocre | ||
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On January 14 2017 20:36 Ilikestarcraft wrote: I actually wonder how many people here actually listened to them while they were active. They disbanded before I even got into kpop. I've been listening to kpop since 1998 | ||
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nanashin
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On January 15 2017 00:07 DwD wrote: Hmm. Hmm. Hmm... Did.. Cube just replace 4Minute for CLC? + Show Spoiler + Cube showing itself to be the height of strategery. Have a continually low performing girl group. Decide to put them fully in the hands of Hyuna, leaving the lyrics and choreography up to her. Now, let's take a moment to look at Hyuna a little more + Show Spoiler [closely.] + What happens when there's a rapper at hand to + Show Spoiler [show her how it's done] + + 01:38 What happens when Hyuna there is no rapper or she is left, relatively, to + Show Spoiler [her own devices.] + For her sake, I opted to skip her first verse. Take's a moment to see her a-b structure. If you can figure out why it came out like that, you'll likely have tasted the music of the spheres and will awake tomorrow screaming in obscenities of fuchsia tones and queries of rhetorical symbolism. Her solo accomplishments? Two trophies for 빨개요. Two trophies for 어때, one of which was her against OhMyGirl. CLC is definitely going to soar under Hyuna's guidance. | ||
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Some of the members don't fit this concept at all though.. It's supposed to be this bad ass concept but it doesn't work when you could pass for being a 14 year old lol. This could be the start to something great, question is how much cash Cube is willing to spend... | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
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gg maknae song pretty boring too - this year is kinda boring to this point | ||
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Nesserev
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nanashin
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Most labels seemed to use the same handful of chains. While SM felt like starting a + Show Spoiler [civil war] + ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2Q9KjXUoAAGTdp.jpg) Dumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumb ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2RCZ1KVEAEbLrZ.jpg) and Open your eyes open your eyes open your eyes OPEN your eyes open your eyes open your eyes open your EYES Received 8 USD chicken set from Outback Steakhouse. EXO? ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2Q9CYIUsAAjUZ4.jpg) 19 USD steak set. Not co-produced. Production = lyrics, composition, and arrangement. Hyuna's + Show Spoiler [contribution] + Probably starts and ends with brown hair red dress. You can tell because she's trying to do Hyuna's shitty nagging delivery and Hyuna's idea of rhyming is 똑똑 자 나와봐라 (A) 한번 바라봐 (B) 안 넘어오나 봐 (B) 쟤는 나 몰랐나 봐 (B) 이젠 잘 찾아봐라 (A) But, I do have to give her credit. She has actually grown as a rapper, she indicates that she has a deep understanding of rhyming by demonstrating the concept of adjusting the enunciation of syllables in order to create rhymes. Much as one would find rhyming commonality with "waves" and "face" if one tinkers with sibilant sounds and focus more on the vowel, in Hyuna's case she revolutionized the meta-game by taking this concept and shifting it out of its decrepit paradigm. ala 와락 안아줄게 너 자꾸 말 안 들어 너 날 좀 바라봐라 더는 센 척하지 마라 이따 후회하지 너 좀 더 놀아봐라 너 She presented the CLC rapper with four phrases ending with 너 and coached her to finesse the pronunciation of 너 into short and long vowels. So, what, for pleb rappers would be a simple 와락 안아줄게 너 (C) 자꾸 말 안 들어 너 (C) 날 좀 바라봐라 (A) 더는 센 척하지 마라 (A) 이따 후회하지 너 (C) 좀 더 놀아봐라(A) 너 (C) A - B structure is now an astounding 와락 안아줄게 너 (C) 자꾸 말 안 들어 너 (D) 날 좀 바라봐라 (A) 더는 센 척하지 마라 (A) 이따 후회하지 너 (C) 좀 더 놀아봐라(A) 너 (D) THIS SHIT IS OFF DA HOOK! You see what she did there? She coached that CLC to stress 너 into having both a short vowel sound and a long vowel sound. 너 (C) is normal nuh, while 너(D) is a complete game changing because it sounds like 나 while on paper it's 너. So now 너 doesn't rhyme with 너 anymore, it needs another 너 to rhyme with and that other 너 needs its own 너 to rhyme with as well. Oh and I have to apologize and adjust the (A) labeled rhymes, clearly those were self-rhyming syllables. SHE HAS WORDS THAT RHYME WITH THEIR OWNSELVES! It's like poetry! They rhyme! EVERY PHRASE IS SO DENSE! A rap goddess has descended! All eyes must be averted for the glory of wordsmith heavens are shining upon this mud ball! Cover your children's ears! Pray that you stop having cognizance in words, for they are to pure to be touched. Your sinful selves will betray you. HYUNA MADE A SYLLABLE NOT RHYME WITH ITSELF! This is truly how you know that she's a 10 year seasoned rapper, OF TWO GROUPS MIND YOU! Not only is she a 10 year veteran rapper, but you can see the fruits of also being a veteran main dancer has given her a deep understanding of choreography. Just look at those crotch drops, spanks, pelvic grinding, and minimalist usage of space. It's totally a post-modern deconstructed take on pop choreography. CLC is going to be so big now. They've practically re-debuted, for there is no life before Hyuna! | ||
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On January 17 2017 04:35 nanashin wrote: Not co-produced. Production = lyrics, composition, and arrangement. Hyuna's + Show Spoiler [contribution] + Probably starts and ends with brown hair red dress. You can tell because she's trying to do Hyuna's shitty nagging delivery and Hyuna's idea of rhyming is 똑똑 자 나와봐라 (A) 한번 바라봐 (B) 안 넘어오나 봐 (B) 쟤는 나 몰랐나 봐 (B) 이젠 잘 찾아봐라 (A) But, I do have to give her credit. She has actually grown as a rapper, she indicates that she has a deep understanding of rhyming by demonstrating the concept of adjusting the enunciation of syllables in order to create rhymes. Much as one would find rhyming commonality with "waves" and "face" if one tinkers with sibilant sounds and focus more on the vowel, in Hyuna's case she revolutionized the meta-game by taking this concept and shifting it out of its decrepit paradigm. ala 와락 안아줄게 너 자꾸 말 안 들어 너 날 좀 바라봐라 더는 센 척하지 마라 이따 후회하지 너 좀 더 놀아봐라 너 She presented the CLC rapper with four phrases ending with 너 and coached her to finesse the pronunciation of 너 into short and long vowels. So, what, for pleb rappers would be a simple 와락 안아줄게 너 (C) 자꾸 말 안 들어 너 (C) 날 좀 바라봐라 (A) 더는 센 척하지 마라 (A) 이따 후회하지 너 (C) 좀 더 놀아봐라(A) 너 (C) A - B structure is now an astounding 와락 안아줄게 너 (C) 자꾸 말 안 들어 너 (D) 날 좀 바라봐라 (A) 더는 센 척하지 마라 (A) 이따 후회하지 너 (C) 좀 더 놀아봐라(A) 너 (D) THIS SHIT IS OFF DA HOOK! You see what she did there? She coached that CLC to stress 너 into having both a short vowel sound and a long vowel sound. 너 (C) is normal nuh, while 너(D) is a complete game changing because it sounds like 나 while on paper it's 너. So now 너 doesn't rhyme with 너 anymore, it needs another 너 to rhyme with and that other 너 needs its own 너 to rhyme with as well. Oh and I have to apologize and adjust the (A) labeled rhymes, clearly those were self-rhyming syllables. SHE HAS WORDS THAT RHYME WITH THEIR OWNSELVES! It's like poetry! They rhyme! EVERY PHRASE IS SO DENSE! A rap goddess has descended! All eyes must be averted for the glory of wordsmith heavens are shining upon this mud ball! Cover your children's ears! Pray that you stop having cognizance in words, for they are to pure to be touched. Your sinful selves will betray you. HYUNA MADE A SYLLABLE NOT RHYME WITH ITSELF! This is truly how you know that she's a 10 year seasoned rapper, OF TWO GROUPS MIND YOU! Not only is she a 10 year veteran rapper, but you can see the fruits of also being a veteran main dancer has given her a deep understanding of choreography. Just look at those crotch drops, spanks, pelvic grinding, and minimalist usage of space. It's totally a post-modern deconstructed take on pop choreography. You're describing writing, not producing. If she isn't credited as co-writer there shouldn't be any expectation that she contributed at all to lyrics, composition or possibly even arrangement. In a hip hop sort of context I might expect co-producing to involve working on the beat. It seems like she coached the rapping parts probably. From the sound it seems like "co-production" is the right term to describe her contribution. It's not a very specific term though. Producers wear a lot of hats. I find the rap analysis interesting but how Hyuna-specific is it? I haven't payed enough attention. | ||
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Craton
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I suppose a producer could do those things, but I'd expect them to be credited differently than just producer. In this case, I imagine co-producer had some involvement of working with the audio engineers during recording and mixing. It might also have been as simple as her recommending a song someone had written and being credited just as a marketing ploy. I'd be really surprised if Hyuna was involved in any kind of hiring of staff. On January 17 2017 02:02 Nesserev wrote: Kinda guilty, discovered kpop and pro brood war at around the same time in 2009. Perfect combination. I have many fond memories of staying awake at night watching nanashin's stream, and then after the games were done, falling asleep with some k-variety show, kdrama, etc. in the background in the early morning. Hmm, you came late to the party then. Nanashin was among of the last set of people to stream prior to BW dying out due to all the shenanigans that happened back then. Staying up late and trolling viewers with kpop were the good ole days. | ||
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