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EmKey
Profile Joined December 2002
Korea (South)631 Posts
January 14 2017 19:05 GMT
#111721
Proper Excuse me version
불놀이야
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
January 14 2017 19:37 GMT
#111722
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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
January 14 2017 20:11 GMT
#111723
A proper version would've been eye contact T_T Also the camera is too far away
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EmKey
Profile Joined December 2002
Korea (South)631 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-14 20:41:17
January 14 2017 20:39 GMT
#111724
On January 15 2017 05:11 DwD wrote:
A proper version would've been eye contact T_T Also the camera is too far away

yea i have to agree with this, but at least its the step in right direction. Official MV was rather mediocre
불놀이야
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
January 15 2017 11:17 GMT
#111725
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EmKey
Profile Joined December 2002
Korea (South)631 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-15 14:05:23
January 15 2017 14:05 GMT
#111726
That was probably Defconns trip of a lifetime


whata luckbox
불놀이야
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10830 Posts
January 16 2017 03:47 GMT
#111727
On January 14 2017 20:36 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2017 00:38 EmKey wrote:
On January 09 2017 22:48 Sableyeah wrote:
INA looks so much like Sunny lol, especially here

S.E.S comeback and no1 posted it ?

+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler +

I actually wonder how many people here actually listened to them while they were active. They disbanded before I even got into kpop.

I've been listening to kpop since 1998
ModeratorResident K-POP Elitist
nanashin
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1584 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-16 04:32:03
January 16 2017 04:31 GMT
#111728
On January 15 2017 00:07 DwD wrote:
Hmm. Hmm. Hmm... Did.. Cube just replace 4Minute for CLC?
+ Show Spoiler +

Cube showing itself to be the height of strategery.
Have a continually low performing girl group. Decide to put them fully in the hands of Hyuna, leaving the lyrics and choreography up to her.

Now, let's take a moment to look at Hyuna a little more + Show Spoiler [closely.] +

What happens when there's a rapper at hand to + Show Spoiler [show her how it's done] +




+ 01:38


What happens when Hyuna there is no rapper or she is left, relatively, to + Show Spoiler [her own devices.] +




For her sake, I opted to skip her first verse. Take's a moment to see her a-b structure. If you can figure out why it came out like that, you'll likely have tasted the music of the spheres and will awake tomorrow screaming in obscenities of fuchsia tones and queries of rhetorical symbolism.

Her solo accomplishments?
Two trophies for 빨개요.
Two trophies for 어때, one of which was her against OhMyGirl.

CLC is definitely going to soar under Hyuna's guidance.
Now you must build the lies you have told. - Looking for Boram JP single trading card, have Jiyeon.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17742 Posts
January 16 2017 15:30 GMT
#111729
On January 16 2017 12:47 LosingID8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 20:36 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On January 10 2017 00:38 EmKey wrote:
On January 09 2017 22:48 Sableyeah wrote:
INA looks so much like Sunny lol, especially here

S.E.S comeback and no1 posted it ?

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAO_OcRz6xQ


+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr0kii_IYqU

I actually wonder how many people here actually listened to them while they were active. They disbanded before I even got into kpop.

I've been listening to kpop since 1998

K-POP Elitist
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
January 16 2017 17:02 GMT
#111730
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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
January 16 2017 17:04 GMT
#111731
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
January 16 2017 17:22 GMT
#111732
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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
January 16 2017 18:27 GMT
#111733
I kinda liked it... It's not super amazing that it will make em a household name or anything like that but their last few songs have been so boring it's nice to see something different. I've been waiting for Seungyeon to reach her final form and she is getting there with this release.
Some of the members don't fit this concept at all though.. It's supposed to be this bad ass concept but it doesn't work when you could pass for being a 14 year old lol.

This could be the start to something great, question is how much cash Cube is willing to spend...
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
January 16 2017 18:29 GMT
#111734
could be a 4minute song -_-

gg maknae song pretty boring too - this year is kinda boring to this point
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Nesserev
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium2760 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-16 18:37:12
January 16 2017 18:35 GMT
#111735
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nanashin
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1584 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-16 19:37:13
January 16 2017 19:35 GMT
#111736
Some dick went around ranking Idol Athletic dosiracs.
Most labels seemed to use the same handful of chains.
While SM felt like starting a + Show Spoiler [civil war] +

[image loading]
Dumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumb
[image loading]
and Open your eyes open your eyes open your eyes OPEN your eyes open your eyes open your eyes open your EYES
Received 8 USD chicken set from Outback Steakhouse.

EXO?
[image loading]
19 USD steak set.
among its fanbase.


Not co-produced.
Production = lyrics, composition, and arrangement.
Hyuna's + Show Spoiler [contribution] +
Probably starts and ends with brown hair red dress. You can tell because she's trying to do Hyuna's shitty nagging delivery and Hyuna's idea of rhyming is
똑똑 자 나와봐라 (A)
한번 바라봐 (B)
안 넘어오나 봐 (B)
쟤는 나 몰랐나 봐 (B)
이젠 잘 찾아봐라 (A)

But, I do have to give her credit. She has actually grown as a rapper, she indicates that she has a deep understanding of rhyming by demonstrating the concept of adjusting the enunciation of syllables in order to create rhymes.
Much as one would find rhyming commonality with "waves" and "face" if one tinkers with sibilant sounds and focus more on the vowel,
in Hyuna's case she revolutionized the meta-game by taking this concept and shifting it out of its decrepit paradigm. ala
와락 안아줄게 너
자꾸 말 안 들어 너
날 좀 바라봐라 더는
센 척하지 마라
이따 후회하지 너
좀 더 놀아봐라 너
She presented the CLC rapper with four phrases ending with 너 and coached her to finesse the pronunciation of 너 into short and long vowels. So, what, for pleb rappers would be a simple
와락 안아줄게 너 (C)
자꾸 말 안 들어 너 (C)
날 좀 바라봐라 (A) 더는
센 척하지 마라 (A)
이따 후회하지 너 (C)
좀 더 놀아봐라(A) 너 (C)
A - B structure is now an astounding

와락 안아줄게 너 (C)
자꾸 말 안 들어 너 (D)
날 좀 바라봐라 (A) 더는
센 척하지 마라 (A)
이따 후회하지 너 (C)
좀 더 놀아봐라(A) 너 (D)
THIS SHIT IS OFF DA HOOK!
You see what she did there?
She coached that CLC to stress 너 into having both a short vowel sound and a long vowel sound.
너 (C) is normal nuh, while 너(D) is a complete game changing because it sounds like 나 while on paper it's 너.
So now 너 doesn't rhyme with 너 anymore, it needs another 너 to rhyme with and that other 너 needs its own 너 to rhyme with as well.
Oh and I have to apologize and adjust the (A) labeled rhymes, clearly those were self-rhyming syllables. SHE HAS WORDS THAT RHYME WITH THEIR OWNSELVES! It's like poetry! They rhyme! EVERY PHRASE IS SO DENSE!

A rap goddess has descended! All eyes must be averted for the glory of wordsmith heavens are shining upon this mud ball! Cover your children's ears! Pray that you stop having cognizance in words, for they are to pure to be touched. Your sinful selves will betray you.

HYUNA MADE A SYLLABLE NOT RHYME WITH ITSELF!
This is truly how you know that she's a 10 year seasoned rapper, OF TWO GROUPS MIND YOU!
Not only is she a 10 year veteran rapper, but you can see the fruits of also being a veteran main dancer has given her a deep understanding of choreography. Just look at those crotch drops, spanks, pelvic grinding, and minimalist usage of space. It's totally a post-modern deconstructed take on pop choreography.

CLC is going to be so big now. They've practically re-debuted, for there is no life before Hyuna!
Now you must build the lies you have told. - Looking for Boram JP single trading card, have Jiyeon.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
January 16 2017 20:46 GMT
#111737
Seohyun is just SO ZZZZZZZZ.
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
January 16 2017 20:50 GMT
#111738
Yeah Seohyun's song is so generic. Going to listen to the B-side of the album. Hope it is a lot better because that song is boring as fuck
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
January 16 2017 21:42 GMT
#111739
On January 17 2017 04:35 nanashin wrote:
Not co-produced.
Production = lyrics, composition, and arrangement.
Hyuna's + Show Spoiler [contribution] +
Probably starts and ends with brown hair red dress. You can tell because she's trying to do Hyuna's shitty nagging delivery and Hyuna's idea of rhyming is
똑똑 자 나와봐라 (A)
한번 바라봐 (B)
안 넘어오나 봐 (B)
쟤는 나 몰랐나 봐 (B)
이젠 잘 찾아봐라 (A)

But, I do have to give her credit. She has actually grown as a rapper, she indicates that she has a deep understanding of rhyming by demonstrating the concept of adjusting the enunciation of syllables in order to create rhymes.
Much as one would find rhyming commonality with "waves" and "face" if one tinkers with sibilant sounds and focus more on the vowel,
in Hyuna's case she revolutionized the meta-game by taking this concept and shifting it out of its decrepit paradigm. ala
와락 안아줄게 너
자꾸 말 안 들어 너
날 좀 바라봐라 더는
센 척하지 마라
이따 후회하지 너
좀 더 놀아봐라 너
She presented the CLC rapper with four phrases ending with 너 and coached her to finesse the pronunciation of 너 into short and long vowels. So, what, for pleb rappers would be a simple
와락 안아줄게 너 (C)
자꾸 말 안 들어 너 (C)
날 좀 바라봐라 (A) 더는
센 척하지 마라 (A)
이따 후회하지 너 (C)
좀 더 놀아봐라(A) 너 (C)
A - B structure is now an astounding

와락 안아줄게 너 (C)
자꾸 말 안 들어 너 (D)
날 좀 바라봐라 (A) 더는
센 척하지 마라 (A)
이따 후회하지 너 (C)
좀 더 놀아봐라(A) 너 (D)
THIS SHIT IS OFF DA HOOK!
You see what she did there?
She coached that CLC to stress 너 into having both a short vowel sound and a long vowel sound.
너 (C) is normal nuh, while 너(D) is a complete game changing because it sounds like 나 while on paper it's 너.
So now 너 doesn't rhyme with 너 anymore, it needs another 너 to rhyme with and that other 너 needs its own 너 to rhyme with as well.
Oh and I have to apologize and adjust the (A) labeled rhymes, clearly those were self-rhyming syllables. SHE HAS WORDS THAT RHYME WITH THEIR OWNSELVES! It's like poetry! They rhyme! EVERY PHRASE IS SO DENSE!

A rap goddess has descended! All eyes must be averted for the glory of wordsmith heavens are shining upon this mud ball! Cover your children's ears! Pray that you stop having cognizance in words, for they are to pure to be touched. Your sinful selves will betray you.

HYUNA MADE A SYLLABLE NOT RHYME WITH ITSELF!
This is truly how you know that she's a 10 year seasoned rapper, OF TWO GROUPS MIND YOU!
Not only is she a 10 year veteran rapper, but you can see the fruits of also being a veteran main dancer has given her a deep understanding of choreography. Just look at those crotch drops, spanks, pelvic grinding, and minimalist usage of space. It's totally a post-modern deconstructed take on pop choreography.


You're describing writing, not producing. If she isn't credited as co-writer there shouldn't be any expectation that she contributed at all to lyrics, composition or possibly even arrangement. In a hip hop sort of context I might expect co-producing to involve working on the beat. It seems like she coached the rapping parts probably. From the sound it seems like "co-production" is the right term to describe her contribution. It's not a very specific term though. Producers wear a lot of hats.

I find the rap analysis interesting but how Hyuna-specific is it? I haven't payed enough attention.
all's fair in love and melodies
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17282 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-16 21:57:19
January 16 2017 21:50 GMT
#111740
The wiki definition of music producer basically has the job description as handling many of the logistics and resources surrounding the creation of music, which includes such things as obtaining songs, musicians to play the music, audio engineers, etc. It does not include participating in the initial creation of the lyrics and composition (i.e. the "written" form of a song).

I suppose a producer could do those things, but I'd expect them to be credited differently than just producer. In this case, I imagine co-producer had some involvement of working with the audio engineers during recording and mixing. It might also have been as simple as her recommending a song someone had written and being credited just as a marketing ploy. I'd be really surprised if Hyuna was involved in any kind of hiring of staff.

On January 17 2017 02:02 Nesserev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 22:43 Craton wrote:
I'd wager most of the people in this thread got into kpop from the BW streams we used to do circa 2009 or from the thread itself later on. S.E.S. disbanded way back in 2002, so I'd bet almost nobody here listened to them back then.

Kinda guilty, discovered kpop and pro brood war at around the same time in 2009. Perfect combination.

I have many fond memories of staying awake at night watching nanashin's stream, and then after the games were done, falling asleep with some k-variety show, kdrama, etc. in the background in the early morning.

Hmm, you came late to the party then. Nanashin was among of the last set of people to stream prior to BW dying out due to all the shenanigans that happened back then.

Staying up late and trolling viewers with kpop were the good ole days.
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