EPTOn January 17 2017 06:42 Gfire wrote:
You're describing writing, not producing. If she isn't credited as co-writer there shouldn't be any expectation that she contributed at all to lyrics, composition or possibly even arrangement. In a hip hop sort of context I might expect co-producing to involve working on the beat. It seems like she coached the rapping parts probably. From the sound it seems like "co-production" is the right term to describe her contribution. It's not a very specific term though. Producers wear a lot of hats.
I find the rap analysis interesting but how Hyuna-specific is it? I haven't payed enough attention.
You're describing writing, not producing. If she isn't credited as co-writer there shouldn't be any expectation that she contributed at all to lyrics, composition or possibly even arrangement. In a hip hop sort of context I might expect co-producing to involve working on the beat. It seems like she coached the rapping parts probably. From the sound it seems like "co-production" is the right term to describe her contribution. It's not a very specific term though. Producers wear a lot of hats.
I find the rap analysis interesting but how Hyuna-specific is it? I haven't payed enough attention.
I was simply a clarifying off of Ness's question about the degree to which she was involved in production.
To me, you've got to have a minor roll in at least two of the three positions that Melon.com lists for "this is the people that done shit for this song" Melon categorizes lyricist, composition, and arrangement, which to me is a very nice boil down of production.
As news had mentioned, she was only involved in writing...to a degree. Along with choreo and overseeing their style: http://www.vlive.tv/video/20914?channelCode=F2E189 31:25
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And my analysis is simply based on the fact that, Hyuna isn't exactly a vocalist, her wheelhouse is "rapping" and/or main dancer-ing.
When a vocalist writes a song, you can pretty much assume they're going to be writing lyrics that will be sung.
When a rapper writes a song, you can pretty much assume they're going to be writing lyrics that will be sung, rapped, or sung and rapped.
When Hyuna co-writes a song, you can pretty much assume they're going to be shitty, shitty, shitty, shitty rap lines.
Why?
Because no one has gone to her for writing throughout most of her career of..."rapping"
They only call her up because they feel her barking out lyrics is a suitable way of adding layers of texture and contrast to a, which before her insertion was likely a decent, song.
When Hyuna did get put in charge of co-writing or more,
only instance of "or more".
I don't listen to a lot of hip hop...like at all, nor do I have a sense of rhythm.
But 02:07 of that track. I think if one were to simplify rap down to little more than rhyming and putting words in sequence to music, one can easily see that isn't exactly what she's doing there.
And if one looks at Blacklist with LE. A layman, such as myself, can probably loosely understand "tightness" of flow by seeing the contrast of what LE is doing and what Hyuna is doing when she goes
Words words, words, words
words, words
words words words, rhyming jump off point A.
Words words words words, words
words words, words words
words, words, words rhyming jump off point B.
words words, words rhyming landing point A
words rhyming landing point B
when the song not engage in a change of tempo at any point.
Hyuna isn't gifted, is what it boils down to.
So, if someone says a song has been co-written by Hyuna with a bunch of other names and you find song has some functional enough singing, and then some awkward as shit and/or simplistic, and likely very + Show Spoiler [grating] +
It's probably safe to assume she wrote that rapping.
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